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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 0:51:45 GMT 1
THIS, is prime time Snyder Cult The level of disgusting obsession behind this. The complete denial of how wrecked it’s been by proclaiming it as divine. It’s gross guys. It’s gross It's disgusting. People casually throw around the phrase 'taking fandom too seriously' when attempting to belittle those of us who are interested in the analysis of the creative and business side of making a CBM. They have little or nothing to say about deep-end radicalism like this in fandom. Certainly puts the unified hard push to chase all us MCU fans off V2 into perspective. It was always there. That nasty tribalistic radicalized Snyder Cult.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 0:53:07 GMT 1
So desperate lol. This is what happens when you give in to crazies They've managed to make DC-Fan look sane.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 0:54:01 GMT 1
@weirdraptor ROFL so true
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 0:56:26 GMT 1
Tbh Im really curious now about the demographics of the Snyder cultists
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 4:45:09 GMT 1
That's actually just cringe - We know full well it wouldn't have come close to Endgame box office numbers - So just ask yourself what's going on here? - It's pretty clear a sizable number of the cult are sitting around tweeting hashtags because they want to make this look more popular than it is. - It's a prime example of why Twitter doesn't reflect reality more than anything Yeah...especially after apparently review bombing Kong v Godzilla
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2021 4:48:54 GMT 1
That's actually just cringe - We know full well it wouldn't have come close to Endgame box office numbers - So just ask yourself what's going on here? - It's pretty clear a sizable number of the cult are sitting around tweeting hashtags because they want to make this look more popular than it is. - It's a prime example of why Twitter doesn't reflect reality more than anything Yeah...especially after apparently review bombing Kong v Godzilla A film Snyder himself will probably go see. Seriously, they're so rabid I can actually see them making life more difficult for their idol, however unintentionally.
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Post by josephjoestar1 on Mar 31, 2021 3:08:25 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 31, 2021 3:23:23 GMT 1
The Snyder Cult gets what the Snyder Cult wants...
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Post by josephjoestar1 on Mar 31, 2021 3:48:39 GMT 1
The Snyder Cult gets what the Snyder Cult wants... Honestly Snyder would only nail it visually but would miss the themes and personalities of all the characters. He'd probably make Griffith seem like the hero and Guts wouldn't develop beyond his edgy "Blackswordsman arc" personality.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 3:52:08 GMT 1
The Snyder Cult gets what the Snyder Cult wants... Honestly Snyder would only nail it visually but would miss the themes and personalities of all the characters. He'd probably make Griffith seem like the hero and Guts wouldn't develop beyond his edgy "Blackswordsman arc" personality. In his eyes, Griffin WOULD be the hero if his treatment of Rorschach is anything to go off of. Yeah, I'd honestly be wary of letting him touch Berserk on the grounds of him missing the themes and character beats.
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Post by josephjoestar1 on Mar 31, 2021 3:54:23 GMT 1
Honestly Snyder would only nail it visually but would miss the themes and personalities of all the characters. He'd probably make Griffith seem like the hero and Guts wouldn't develop beyond his edgy "Blackswordsman arc" personality. In his eyes, Griffin WOULD be the hero if his treatment of Rorschach is anything to go off of. Yeah, I'd honestly be wary of letting him touch Berserk on the grounds of him missing the themes and character beats. He would unironically support #griffithdidnothingwrong.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 4:06:44 GMT 1
In his eyes, Griffin WOULD be the hero if his treatment of Rorschach is anything to go off of. Yeah, I'd honestly be wary of letting him touch Berserk on the grounds of him missing the themes and character beats. He would unironically support #griffithdidnothingwrong. I will grant anyone that the flashbacks to his (O.G.) Band of the Falcon days do do a lot to make Griffith sympathetic, but the instant he sacrificed the whole crew on the Fifth Eclipse, all bets were off.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 12:36:32 GMT 1
Honestly Snyder would only nail it visually but would miss the themes and personalities of all the characters. He'd probably make Griffith seem like the hero and Guts wouldn't develop beyond his edgy "Blackswordsman arc" personality. In his eyes, Griffin WOULD be the hero if his treatment of Rorschach is anything to go off of. Yeah, I'd honestly be wary of letting him touch Berserk on the grounds of him missing the themes and character beats. Why? What was wrong with Rorschach? Mind you I've read both the comics and seen the film
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 23:02:36 GMT 1
In his eyes, Griffin WOULD be the hero if his treatment of Rorschach is anything to go off of. Yeah, I'd honestly be wary of letting him touch Berserk on the grounds of him missing the themes and character beats. Why? What was wrong with Rorschach? Mind you I've read both the comics and seen the film The original story goes out of its way to subvert how it initially set up Rorschach. He sees himself as a master detective, but he's far from it. He's repulsive, disturbing and ineffective as a way of spelling out how unglamorous, dangerous and insane a real life vigilante like him would be. Remember, Moore's whole point was "real life and comic books don't mix". Rorschach is a mental basketcase and a ruthless, violent sociopath with a rigid and arbitrary moral compass. He has strong reactionary views on top of being homophobic and sexist. He's plain at best if not outright ugly due to taking poor care of his physical health, and is clearly not a people person in any way, shape, or form. On top of that, he's not even all that smart, acting mostly on hunches and assumptions instead of seeking out actual evidence or questioning his own theories. The Snyder Rorschach is played a lot cooler and more sympathetically, which goes against Moore's "You're not supposed to like any of these SOBs."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 31, 2021 23:51:33 GMT 1
Why? What was wrong with Rorschach? Mind you I've read both the comics and seen the film The original story goes out of its way to subvert how it initially set up Rorschach. He sees himself as a master detective, but he's far from it. He's repulsive, disturbing and ineffective as a way of spelling out how unglamorous, dangerous and insane a real life vigilante like him would be. Remember, Moore's whole point was "real life and comic books don't mix". Rorschach is a mental basketcase and a ruthless, violent sociopath with a rigid and arbitrary moral compass. He has strong reactionary views on top of being homophobic and sexist. He's plain at best if not outright ugly due to taking poor care of his physical health, and is clearly not a people person in any way, shape, or form. On top of that, he's not even all that smart, acting mostly on hunches and assumptions instead of seeking out actual evidence or questioning his own theories. The Snyder Rorschach is played a lot cooler and more sympathetically, which goes against Moore's "You're not supposed to like any of these SOBs." Hmm maybe I need to re-read the comic for the details but meh Moore..does he question any of the stuff he says? Look at Darth Vader. You're not really supposed to like him either
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 0:47:00 GMT 1
The original story goes out of its way to subvert how it initially set up Rorschach. He sees himself as a master detective, but he's far from it. He's repulsive, disturbing and ineffective as a way of spelling out how unglamorous, dangerous and insane a real life vigilante like him would be. Remember, Moore's whole point was "real life and comic books don't mix". Rorschach is a mental basketcase and a ruthless, violent sociopath with a rigid and arbitrary moral compass. He has strong reactionary views on top of being homophobic and sexist. He's plain at best if not outright ugly due to taking poor care of his physical health, and is clearly not a people person in any way, shape, or form. On top of that, he's not even all that smart, acting mostly on hunches and assumptions instead of seeking out actual evidence or questioning his own theories. The Snyder Rorschach is played a lot cooler and more sympathetically, which goes against Moore's "You're not supposed to like any of these SOBs." Hmm maybe I need to re-read the comic for the details but meh Moore..does he question any of the stuff he says? Look at Darth Vader. You're not really supposed to like him either There was a time when Moore was a force to be reckoned with on the comic book scene, and the original Watchmen hails from that era. I think we can give past-Moore the benefit that he was in his prime back then. As for Vader, he is a classic "love to hate" villain even after The Empire Strikes Back, whereas Rorschach is supposed to be a deconstruction of the Zorro/Batman-style crime fighter. Big difference in how they function within their own respective narratives.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 0:53:57 GMT 1
Hmm maybe I need to re-read the comic for the details but meh Moore..does he question any of the stuff he says? Look at Darth Vader. You're not really supposed to like him either There was a time when Moore was a force to be reckoned with on the comic book scene, and the original Watchmen hails from that era. I think we can give past-Moore the benefit that he was in his prime back then. As for Vader, he is a classic "love to hate" villain even after The Empire Strikes Back, whereas Rorschach is supposed to be a deconstruction of the Zorro/Batman-style crime fighter. Big difference in how they function within their own respective narratives. It's not just Vader though, is it? There are plenty of villains or 'bad to evil' characters that people like. I think Moore has a low opinion of people anyway from what Ive been told?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 0:57:34 GMT 1
There was a time when Moore was a force to be reckoned with on the comic book scene, and the original Watchmen hails from that era. I think we can give past-Moore the benefit that he was in his prime back then. As for Vader, he is a classic "love to hate" villain even after The Empire Strikes Back, whereas Rorschach is supposed to be a deconstruction of the Zorro/Batman-style crime fighter. Big difference in how they function within their own respective narratives. It's not just Vader though, is it? There are plenty of villains or 'bad to evil' characters that people like. I think Moore has a low opinion of people anyway from what Ive been told? I've seen people be surprised by just how repugnant Rorschach is in the original comic book. They dived right in expecting him to be cool like in the movie, and that is not what they got with Comic Book Rory.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2021 0:59:54 GMT 1
It's not just Vader though, is it? There are plenty of villains or 'bad to evil' characters that people like. I think Moore has a low opinion of people anyway from what Ive been told? I've seen people be surprised by just how repugnant Rorschach is in the original comic book. They dived right in expecting him to be cool like in the movie, and that is not what they got with Comic Book Rory. Fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 5:47:27 GMT 1
Well, this is interesting
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Apr 5, 2021 6:15:56 GMT 1
Well, this is interesting Yeah, now we all know how I feel about this series but this to me shows how not really that big of a deal it is. Not that it’s a bad number, but it’s not exactly impressive. Some people won’t care because they just wanted the film, but I think we’d be understating it not to say that the bulk of this movement felt that this was a major event for fans across the board that everybody was into and would change the fortunes of DC while redeeming the credibility of the snyderverse. And in the end I think objectively it’s now fair to say that this is a modestly reviewed film with a modest number of views. There’s really nothing to see here. It’s ok. And it did ok. That’s about it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 21:30:17 GMT 1
Well, this is interesting Yeah, now we all know how I feel about this series but this to me shows how not really that big of a deal it is. Not that it’s a bad number, but it’s not exactly impressive. Some people won’t care because they just wanted the film, but I think we’d be understating it not to say that the bulk of this movement felt that this was a major event for fans across the board that everybody was into and would change the fortunes of DC while redeeming the credibility of the snyderverse. And in the end I think objectively it’s now fair to say that this is a modestly reviewed film with a modest number of views. There’s really nothing to see here. It’s ok. And it did ok. That’s about it. Out of curiosity has a director's cut ever been released on the silver screen? Anyone know?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 5, 2021 21:39:28 GMT 1
Yeah, now we all know how I feel about this series but this to me shows how not really that big of a deal it is. Not that it’s a bad number, but it’s not exactly impressive. Some people won’t care because they just wanted the film, but I think we’d be understating it not to say that the bulk of this movement felt that this was a major event for fans across the board that everybody was into and would change the fortunes of DC while redeeming the credibility of the snyderverse. And in the end I think objectively it’s now fair to say that this is a modestly reviewed film with a modest number of views. There’s really nothing to see here. It’s ok. And it did ok. That’s about it. Out of curiosity has a director's cut ever been released on the silver screen? Anyone know? Heavan's Gate - before it was recalled.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2021 21:43:47 GMT 1
Out of curiosity has a director's cut ever been released on the silver screen? Anyone know? Heavan's Gate - before it was recalled. That the only one? Do you know?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 5, 2021 22:12:43 GMT 1
Heavan's Gate - before it was recalled. That the only one? Do you know? It's the only one I can think of off the top of my head. I think the director's cut of Blade Runner was released in theaters in NY and LA. It was definitely not a wide release, though.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 5, 2021 22:23:07 GMT 1
Yeah, now we all know how I feel about this series but this to me shows how not really that big of a deal it is. Not that it’s a bad number, but it’s not exactly impressive. Some people won’t care because they just wanted the film, but I think we’d be understating it not to say that the bulk of this movement felt that this was a major event for fans across the board that everybody was into and would change the fortunes of DC while redeeming the credibility of the snyderverse. And in the end I think objectively it’s now fair to say that this is a modestly reviewed film with a modest number of views. There’s really nothing to see here. It’s ok. And it did ok. That’s about it. Out of curiosity has a director's cut ever been released on the silver screen? Anyone know? of course, the special editions count, blade runner, i saw apocalypse now redux in theater
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 5, 2021 22:24:41 GMT 1
and i keep saying this, but snyder cut isn't even the first time an all new film was released, there are two different versions of the exorcist prequel, both of which made it to theaters
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2021 3:40:12 GMT 1
and i keep saying this, but snyder cut isn't even the first time an all new film was released, there are two different versions of the exorcist prequel, both of which made it to theaters Were all those films wide releases? Still, of all the films that have been made it is quite rare for it to happen
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 6, 2021 3:53:35 GMT 1
and i keep saying this, but snyder cut isn't even the first time an all new film was released, there are two different versions of the exorcist prequel, both of which made it to theaters Were all those films wide releases? Still, of all the films that have been made it is quite rare for it to happen it is rare, but it is not unprecedented
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Post by Lord Death Man on Apr 6, 2021 5:08:35 GMT 1
Were all those films wide releases? Still, of all the films that have been made it is quite rare for it to happen it is rare, but it is not unprecedented All of the films discussed in the above examples, except for one, are legitimate cultural phenomenons. Apocalypse Now, Blade Runner, Star Wars: A New Hope, and Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back have all been selected for preservation in the U.S. National Film Registry by the Library of Congress. Those films are considered to be culturally and aesthetically significant. Their status as legendary cinema would incentivize a studio to provide a limited release where they could be re-examined from a fresh perspective. The Snyder Cut, while an improvement on the theatrical cut, is simply not in that category. And, at four hours, it would be more likely to yield urine-stained pants than sizable profits even in a limited release window. While enjoyable to its fans, the Snyder Cut is not much more than a vanity project from a director who didn't want his name associated with an inferior cut of "his" movie he'd neither seen nor endorsed. To further put the issue of a theatrical release for the Snyder Cut into perspective, other films that share its length are Gone With The Wind, Cleopatra, Laurence of Arabia, The Ten Commandments, and Ben Hur. The Snyder Cut doesn't rank in their category of significance, in my opinion.
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