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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 2:25:01 GMT 1
The most annoying woman I have ever seen I seriously can’t stand listening to her Diehard MCU fans are supposed to be the most delusional fanbase out there - like - the Count of Montey Mephisto - delusional.
The head of WarnerMediaStudios literally just told a major trade publication that the Snyder Cut is a one and done; we're moving on. The DCEU fandom's response? Oh yeah, that's just code for they're going to put the next one on HBO Max, bruh. That's "the way forward." WB can't have it both ways. The DCEU is either director-driven or fan-driven. I suppose having it be socially acceptable to like the MCU in online spaces was nice while it lasted. At least we'll always have the real world outside of the computer screen.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 2:36:17 GMT 1
The obsession over this has given rise to a counter obsession of how bonkers the entire thing is. I’m endlessly fascinated by the hoops jumped through to continue to not only justify this, but push it, as if doing so will unlock the Master Sword and free the Kingdom of Hyrule. I remain convinced that a large unspoken factor here that nobody wants to talk about, is an obsessed fandom who feels it’s DC’s destiny or whatever as a brand to usurp dominance. It’s fandom wars played out with real studio $$$, and that’s why they needed to cut this off at the knees. WB literally played into it when they had already made a decision. Now they get to listen to more of it. Maybe even louder since those yelling have been told if they yell loud enough for long enough, they will get what they want. It really puts DC on noteworthy but nonetheless shaky ground.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 2:46:40 GMT 1
Dude. Stop obsessing over this random internet chick. Should I tell Gracey to get a restraining order? It's too late! She lives rent free in his head! KAPOW!😂😂😂
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 2:56:16 GMT 1
The obsession over this has given rise to a counter obsession of how bonkers the entire thing is. I’m endlessly fascinated by the hoops jumped through to continue to not only justify this, but push it, as if doing so will unlock the Master Sword and free the Kingdom of Hyrule. I remain convinced that a large unspoken factor here that nobody wants to talk about, is an obsessed fandom who feels it’s DC’s destiny or whatever as a brand to usurp dominance. It’s fandom wars played out with real studio $$$, and that’s why they needed to cut this off at the knees. WB literally played into it when they had already made a decision. Now they get to listen to more of it. Maybe even louder since those yelling have been told if they yell loud enough for long enough, they will get what they want. It really puts DC on noteworthy but nonetheless shaken ground. Well said. I want to stop talking about this nonsense. I want to stop harshly criticizing WB, the DCEU, and its maniacal fanbase, but the devil makes it far too easy for me. I know I'm a sinner, but I can't say no. Especially when public figures like Grace legitimize and promote this madness. You can't even say they're wrong because they got what they wanted the first time. If WB goes back on their word to move on, what should we make of them as a studio? We're the guys who'll say no until, of course, we say yes. 3/23/21 - Prepare yourself for Zack Snyder's six-hour follow-up - Justice League III - The Real Slow Burn.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 3:09:02 GMT 1
The obsession over this has given rise to a counter obsession of how bonkers the entire thing is. I’m endlessly fascinated by the hoops jumped through to continue to not only justify this, but push it, as if doing so will unlock the Master Sword and free the Kingdom of Hyrule. I remain convinced that a large unspoken factor here that nobody wants to talk about, is an obsessed fandom who feels it’s DC’s destiny or whatever as a brand to usurp dominance. It’s fandom wars played out with real studio $$$, and that’s why they needed to cut this off at the knees. WB literally played into it when they had already made a decision. Now they get to listen to more of it. Maybe even louder since those yelling have been told if they yell loud enough for long enough, they will get what they want. It really puts DC on noteworthy but nonetheless shaken ground. Well said. I want to stop talking about this nonsense. I want to stop harshly criticizing WB, the DCEU, and its maniacal fanbase, but the devil makes it far too easy for me. I know I'm a sinner, but I can't say no. Especially when public figures like Grace legitimize and promote this madness. You can't even say they're wrong because they got what they wanted the first time. If WB goes back on their word to move on, what should we make of them as a studio? We're the guys who'll say no until, of course, we say yes. 3/23/21 - Prepare yourself for Zack Snyder's six-hour follow-up - Justice League III - The Real Slow Burn. lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:09:28 GMT 1
Dude. Stop obsessing over this random internet chick. Should I tell Gracey to get a restraining order? Relax man. So what? So ldm doesnt like Grace, it has been well established too Youre right. That was unnecessary. And I do try not to mock these guys. But honestly scrolling through this last page here makes me want to never post here again. I cannot take fandom this god damn seriously. LOLOLOL
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 3:14:53 GMT 1
Well said. I want to stop talking about this nonsense. I want to stop harshly criticizing WB, the DCEU, and its maniacal fanbase, but the devil makes it far too easy for me. I know I'm a sinner, but I can't say no. Especially when public figures like Grace legitimize and promote this madness. You can't even say they're wrong because they got what they wanted the first time. If WB goes back on their word to move on, what should we make of them as a studio? We're the guys who'll say no until, of course, we say yes. 3/23/21 - Prepare yourself for Zack Snyder's six-hour follow-up - Justice League III - The Real Slow Burn. lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. But damn, man. Let me say one more thing about Grace Randolph. So I hear they're writing a Zatanna movie. This is outstanding. I've been waiting for this caper for a while now. It only took another witch living in the public's collective mind for six straight weeks. Who is DC's version of Mephisto? He's going to be in it for sure - guaranteed. Maybe it will lead to a Seven Soldiers (of Victory) movie.
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Post by Grace Randolph on Mar 23, 2021 3:16:14 GMT 1
FYI I hate you MCU stans too
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 3:23:24 GMT 1
FYI I hate you MCU stans too Grace, I love you so much. Your stringy hair and casper makeup is just fab. Ya know, lol, I have always wanted to see a breakdown from you on every MCU cast and crew member's social demographic. Toodles (pssst that will keep her busy for awhile)
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Post by Grace Randolph on Mar 23, 2021 3:25:32 GMT 1
FYI I hate you MCU stans too Grace, I love you so much. Your stringy hair and casper makeup is just fab.
Toodles (pssst that will keep her busy for awhile) Feverishly writes that down
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 3:27:36 GMT 1
Well said. I want to stop talking about this nonsense. I want to stop harshly criticizing WB, the DCEU, and its maniacal fanbase, but the devil makes it far too easy for me. I know I'm a sinner, but I can't say no. Especially when public figures like Grace legitimize and promote this madness. You can't even say they're wrong because they got what they wanted the first time. If WB goes back on their word to move on, what should we make of them as a studio? We're the guys who'll say no until, of course, we say yes. 3/23/21 - Prepare yourself for Zack Snyder's six-hour follow-up - Justice League III - The Real Slow Burn. lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. You're right about the fans. And I guess if they don't care, neither should I. I now 1000% believe in karma. It's real, and it's nightmarishly subtle. Has an appropriate mourning period passed so that I can say things like Henry Cavil for Cyclops without getting the stink eye?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:28:13 GMT 1
Grace, I love you so much. Your stringy hair and casper makeup is just fab.
Toodles (pssst that will keep her busy for awhile) Feverishly writes that down Grace, why do you toy with these guys so! You know they’re ga ga over you! Stop leading them on!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 3:29:12 GMT 1
lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. You're right about the fans. And I guess if they don't care, neither should I. I now 1000% believe in karma. It's real, and it's nightmarishly subtle. Has an appropriate mourning period passed so that I can say things like Henry Cavil for Cyclops without getting the stink eye? It has not. But I'd welcome that just for the irony
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 3:32:32 GMT 1
Feverishly writes that down Grace, why do you toy with these guys so! You know they’re ga ga over you! Stop leading them on! I am so gaga for that homely wretch I just, mmmmmm. It's that whiney ass voice baby. Get's me so F@#&ing flaccid. HELLL YEAH!!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:36:57 GMT 1
lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. But damn, man. Let me say one more thing about Grace Randolph. So I hear they're writing a Zatanna movie. This is outstanding. I've been waiting for this caper for a while now. It only took another witch living in the public's collective mind for six straight weeks. Who is DC's version of Mephisto? He's going to be in it for sure - guaranteed. Maybe it will lead to a Seven Soldiers (of Victory).
Oh, God, you're right. WB is clueless enough to do that, because they'll think including their Devil-stand-in will be a sure way to one-up WV. Because, yeah, Mephisto is totally what makes Wanda's character special in the comics.[/sarcasm]
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:38:11 GMT 1
Well said. I want to stop talking about this nonsense. I want to stop harshly criticizing WB, the DCEU, and its maniacal fanbase, but the devil makes it far too easy for me. I know I'm a sinner, but I can't say no. Especially when public figures like Grace legitimize and promote this madness. You can't even say they're wrong because they got what they wanted the first time. If WB goes back on their word to move on, what should we make of them as a studio? We're the guys who'll say no until, of course, we say yes. 3/23/21 - Prepare yourself for Zack Snyder's six-hour follow-up - Justice League III - The Real Slow Burn. lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. They have one chance to prevent themselves from becoming known as the company that's the fandom's whipping boy, and that chance is right now. If they cave again, they can kiss any respectability they had bye-bye, because then everyone will know all it takes is a little public pressure.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 3:38:42 GMT 1
Grace, why do you toy with these guys so! You know they’re ga ga over you! Stop leading them on! I am so gaga for that homely wretch I just, mmmmmm. It's that whiney ass voice baby. Get's me so F@#&king flaccid. HELLL YEAH!!! And the videos are always in shitty, Macbook Pro webcam 720p. Wait till she graduates to 1080p. There will be no escaping that thirst trap.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 3:39:55 GMT 1
lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. You're right about the fans. And I guess if they don't care, neither should I. I now 1000% believe in karma. It's real, and it's nightmarishly subtle. Has an appropriate mourning period passed so that I can say things like Henry Cavil for Cyclops without getting the stink eye? Or Captain Britain, or maybe Union Jack. Those guys have nifty costumes.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 3:51:27 GMT 1
lol, the next day I sure wouldn't put money on them not doing it at this point But the real problem is, IMO, is it hamstrings WB. Yeah, they've had shit strategy and execution so far, but begging for more IMO, isn't going to help. It's going to muddy the waters. But, I will concede that it doesn't seem as though most DC fans really care about any sort of vision, as long as they get the handful of individual things they want. And to that I say, enjoy. It's simply the exact reason I can't be a fan of them, and have little to no respect for what they are as a brand. They have one chance to prevent themselves from becoming known as the company that's the fandom's whipping boy, and that chance is right now. If they cave again, they can kiss any respectability they had bye-bye, because then everyone will know all it takes is a little public pressure. It could have gone the other way. I could have picked up a DC title on that faithful day in that comic book shop all those years ago. I could have read Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, JLA, and tons of others during my formative years. I mean, it could have been me, man. Shit. I could have made those lifelong connections with those characters only to watch this nightmare unfold today. I'm starting to feel survivor's guilt over here. I AM spiraling. Guys, I think we need to reboot the LDM. Hee hee hee...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 4:04:16 GMT 1
Anyway, moving on...
I’m not even a fan of the DCEU. I mean AT ALL. But the Snyder Cut has clearly been very well received and is by all measures a big success in its release and its reception.
I’m secure enough in my McU fandom to be okay with that. Good for Big Z, I say. He’s earned it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 4:14:47 GMT 1
They have one chance to prevent themselves from becoming known as the company that's the fandom's whipping boy, and that chance is right now. If they cave again, they can kiss any respectability they had bye-bye, because then everyone will know all it takes is a little public pressure. It could have gone the other way. I could have picked up a DC title on that faithful day in that comic book shop all those years ago. I could have read Superman, Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, JLA, and tons of others during my formative years. I mean, it could have been me, man. Shit. I could have made those lifelong connections with those characters only to watch this nightmare unfold today. I'm starting to feel survivor's guilt over here. I AM spiraling. Guys, I think we need to reboot the LDM. Hee hee hee... Speaking as someone who has formed a life-long connection with those DC characters, I envy your distance on the matter.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 4:21:26 GMT 1
especially since so many of their films drop off into an abyss It's pathetic that YouTubers like Grace play into this "competition" and stoke the flames with fans. How is it an achievement that a four-hour cut of a previously released movie has managed to garner more attention than new Disney+ programming that is one-tenth the length? The fact that they're even in the same conversation is embarrassing. This would make more sense if the Snyder Cut was up against the Black Widow. Next up will be Black Adam vs. the making of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier! This just makes it more comical “oh nooooo they’re in trouble” lol
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 4:38:33 GMT 1
Anyway, moving on... I’m not even a fan of the DCEU. I mean AT ALL. But the Snyder Cut has clearly been very well received and is by all measures a big success in its release and its reception. I’m secure enough in my McU fandom to be okay with that. Good for Big Z, I say. He’s earned it. Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-)
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Post by Zach Schneider on Mar 23, 2021 4:40:21 GMT 1
Anyway, moving on... I’m not even a fan of the DCEU. I mean AT ALL. But the Snyder Cut has clearly been very well received and is by all measures a big success in its release and its reception. I’m secure enough in my McU fandom to be okay with that. Good for Big Z, I say. He’s earned it. Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-) Ziggity diggity dawg!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 4:54:27 GMT 1
Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-) Ziggity diggity dawg! Go play in the street Zack
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 5:07:54 GMT 1
Yes Looks like we have some numbers in!! (BIG PAUSE ON THIS THOUGH. IN FAIRNESS I DID SOME CHECKING AND OTHER ACTUAL NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP. HOWEVER IS IS CURRENTLY LESS THAN WW84’s ESTIMATE FOR COMPARISON) So. What do we think? I’m skipping the $ for a moment because IMO we can really only count subscription $ and that’s a whole can of worms. But the number of viewers. According to this is 4,554,000. Now there’s people in each house who didn’t watch but also extra people who came over to watch with friends, so I think we should just take the number at face value. The $ value they list is interesting for perspective on an opening theater weekend. Obviously it’s much lower than you’d expect for an opening weekend in theaters which means the viewership is lower by a commensurate %. Roughly 1/4 of maybe what the could have expected from a normal theatrical release Any thoughts on what this means, long term viewership? Any other sources reporting? Or how you’d calculate profitability?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 23, 2021 5:16:08 GMT 1
It's pathetic that YouTubers like Grace play into this "competition" and stoke the flames with fans. How is it an achievement that a four-hour cut of a previously released movie has managed to garner more attention than new Disney+ programming that is one-tenth the length? The fact that they're even in the same conversation is embarrassing. This would make more sense if the Snyder Cut was up against the Black Widow. Next up will be Black Adam vs. the making of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier! This just makes it more comical “oh nooooo they’re in trouble” lol View AttachmentAre you serious?! This is insane.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2021 5:27:35 GMT 1
Anyway, moving on... I’m not even a fan of the DCEU. I mean AT ALL. But the Snyder Cut has clearly been very well received and is by all measures a big success in its release and its reception. I’m secure enough in my McU fandom to be okay with that. Good for Big Z, I say. He’s earned it. Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-) Archie, you’re alright! I’m no defender of the DCEU. I just don’t really go in for all the fandom vs fandom stuff. Especially since some take it insanely seriously. I know you always have a good natured spirit about this stuff though. And I’ve always appreciated that.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 23, 2021 5:31:01 GMT 1
Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-) Archie, you’re alright! I’m no defender of the DCEU. I just don’t really go in for all the fandom vs fandom stuff. I know you always have a good natured spirit about this stuff though. And I’ve always appreciated that. That's exactly what a defender of the DCEU would say.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 23, 2021 5:33:26 GMT 1
Alas, noble as it may be, and hope as I might, I cannot follow you down this path. I can however, move on and forget the thing. Maybe ;-) Archie, you’re alright! I’m no defender of the DCEU. I just don’t really go in for all the fandom vs fandom stuff. I know you always have a good natured spirit about this stuff though. And I’ve always appreciated that. Ive always viewed my deep seeded psychopathic hatred of works of fiction as analytical.
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