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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 3:19:32 GMT 1
As I said on another forum, there would be a handful of mutants that have always been around for centuries, mainly the slow aging ones like Wolverine, Sabertooth, Apocalypse, Selene. Theyve just been in hiding, off the grid or in Apocalypses case; suspended animation. Better approach to hide a few mutants in the MCU world rather than every mutant ever. Prof X has his mutation trigger immediately after Thanos' snap in 2017, giving him 6-7 years to grasp the mutant phenomenon and set up his school for the gifted because he can forsee an explosion in mutant population coming. If we're expecting the first MCU Xmen movie in 2023-2024 then that gives him enough time. I agree though it wouldn't make him as wise with knowledge and experience as Patrik Stewarts version who had had a decades long origin from his young version McAvoy. This is a good balance I think. Personally, something many would reject but that I think is the actual best answer, is to start mutants now with Charles and Eric’s origin taking place in modern day and more and more mutants popping up. Maybe a handful of ancient ones existing prior to now but very few. This avoids any of the questions, and makes sense, we’d just have to accept modern origins. That means something different than Magneto as a Holocaust victim etc. people will scream, but IMO it’s what should happen. In a couple more decades, they'll HAVE to change Magneto's origin, anyway, unless they want to make all X-Men comics period pieces.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 13, 2021 4:09:42 GMT 1
This is a good balance I think. Personally, something many would reject but that I think is the actual best answer, is to start mutants now with Charles and Eric’s origin taking place in modern day and more and more mutants popping up. Maybe a handful of ancient ones existing prior to now but very few. This avoids any of the questions, and makes sense, we’d just have to accept modern origins. That means something different than Magneto as a Holocaust victim etc. people will scream, but IMO it’s what should happen. In a couple more decades, they'll HAVE to change Magneto's origin, anyway, unless they want to make all X-Men comics period pieces. IMO we’re already at that point.
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Post by charzhino on Feb 14, 2021 16:38:56 GMT 1
As I said on another forum, there would be a handful of mutants that have always been around for centuries, mainly the slow aging ones like Wolverine, Sabertooth, Apocalypse, Selene. Theyve just been in hiding, off the grid or in Apocalypses case; suspended animation. Better approach to hide a few mutants in the MCU world rather than every mutant ever. Prof X has his mutation trigger immediately after Thanos' snap in 2017, giving him 6-7 years to grasp the mutant phenomenon and set up his school for the gifted because he can forsee an explosion in mutant population coming. If we're expecting the first MCU Xmen movie in 2023-2024 then that gives him enough time. I agree though it wouldn't make him as wise with knowledge and experience as Patrik Stewarts version who had had a decades long origin from his young version McAvoy. This is a good balance I think. Personally, something many would reject but that I think is the actual best answer, is to start mutants now with Charles and Eric’s origin taking place in modern day and more and more mutants popping up. Maybe a handful of ancient ones existing prior to now but very few. This avoids any of the questions, and makes sense, we’d just have to accept modern origins. That means something different than Magneto as a Holocaust victim etc. people will scream, but IMO it’s what should happen. Yeah Magneto is the trickiest mutant to handle because he almost perma-fixed in time. A modern interation will surely have to be adapted, even though Im generally against "modernising" characters.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 18:48:23 GMT 1
This is a good balance I think. Personally, something many would reject but that I think is the actual best answer, is to start mutants now with Charles and Eric’s origin taking place in modern day and more and more mutants popping up. Maybe a handful of ancient ones existing prior to now but very few. This avoids any of the questions, and makes sense, we’d just have to accept modern origins. That means something different than Magneto as a Holocaust victim etc. people will scream, but IMO it’s what should happen. Yeah Magneto is the trickiest mutant to handle because he almost perma-fixed in time. A modern interation will surely have to be adapted, even though Im generally against "modernising" characters. They should just skip him. He’s had two great iterations onscreen already with McKellen and then Fassbender. I don’t really need to see him again so soon.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 14, 2021 18:52:50 GMT 1
Yeah Magneto is the trickiest mutant to handle because he almost perma-fixed in time. A modern interation will surely have to be adapted, even though Im generally against "modernising" characters. They should just skip him. He’s had two great iterations onscreen already with McKellen and then Fassbender. I don’t really need to see him again so soon. There is chance they could do that but Feige did say Magneto was a favorite villain of his.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2021 18:58:18 GMT 1
They should just skip him. He’s had two great iterations onscreen already with McKellen and then Fassbender. I don’t really need to see him again so soon. There is chance they could do that but Feige did say Magneto was a favorite villain of his. He worked on the original X Men movies so hopefully he got his fill of the character already. I just think they should make this reboot as different as possible. There are plenty of other villains.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 14, 2021 19:00:41 GMT 1
There is chance they could do that but Feige did say Magneto was a favorite villain of his. He worked on the original X Men movies so hopefully he got his fill of the character already. I just think they should make this reboot as different as possible. There are plenty of other villains. Honestly I've been on the side of starting him out as a good guy. Let him grow into the iconic Xmen villain that the world grew to love. It also would give him a stronger connection to the Xmen and Xavier that we never really got before.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 14, 2021 19:05:45 GMT 1
This is a good balance I think. Personally, something many would reject but that I think is the actual best answer, is to start mutants now with Charles and Eric’s origin taking place in modern day and more and more mutants popping up. Maybe a handful of ancient ones existing prior to now but very few. This avoids any of the questions, and makes sense, we’d just have to accept modern origins. That means something different than Magneto as a Holocaust victim etc. people will scream, but IMO it’s what should happen. Yeah Magneto is the trickiest mutant to handle because he almost perma-fixed in time. A modern interation will surely have to be adapted, even though Im generally against "modernising" characters. btw have you checked out our Xmen video we did? All sorts of ideas we hit on
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Post by charzhino on Feb 14, 2021 22:16:35 GMT 1
Yeah Magneto is the trickiest mutant to handle because he almost perma-fixed in time. A modern interation will surely have to be adapted, even though Im generally against "modernising" characters. btw have you checked out our Xmen video we did? All sorts of ideas we hit on Yeah Im slowly caching up on the channels vids.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 14, 2021 23:45:19 GMT 1
btw have you checked out our Xmen video we did? All sorts of ideas we hit on Yeah Im slowly caching up on the channels vids. we’re getting steadily better. A little anyway lol
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 15, 2021 0:14:53 GMT 1
btw have you checked out our Xmen video we did? All sorts of ideas we hit on Yeah Im slowly caching up on the channels vids. You should join us btw. You can even pick a topic :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 17:34:19 GMT 1
Still?
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jul 20, 2021 18:05:23 GMT 1
I say anything possible at this point.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jul 20, 2021 18:37:46 GMT 1
Just throwing this out there, if you think Multiverse is a "lazy" direction to go then you should hate Marvel Studios for going the time travel route with Endgame. Time travel is even more lazy
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:25:17 GMT 1
Just throwing this out there, if you think Multiverse is a "lazy" direction to go then you should hate Marvel Studios for going the time travel route with Endgame. Time travel is even more lazy I admit finding this thread again made me chuckle because now that Loki has done it the multiverse is suddenly “mind blowing and brilliant”. Guess we were ahead of the curve on this one!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:30:58 GMT 1
This guy thought multiverses were cool before thinking multiverses are cool was cool. WIZARD!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 19:49:06 GMT 1
Wonder if we'll see any of the Fox-men?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 20, 2021 21:07:25 GMT 1
Wonder if we'll see any of the Fox-men? Do we need to see the X-Men in the current iteration of the MCU? We just got through two decades of live-action films featuring them. The desire to reconstitute them somehow in the MCU seems suspiciously like gluttony in the fandom. If I have to get them via the multiverse, I'd rather not have them at all.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2021 22:58:21 GMT 1
Wonder if we'll see any of the Fox-men? Do we need to see the X-Men in the current iteration of the MCU? We just got through two decades of live-action films featuring them. The desire to reconstitute them somehow in the MCU seems suspiciously like gluttony in the fandom. If I have to get them via the multiverse, I'd rather not have them at all. It would be awesome to see them again in the mcu as a cameo or in a one-off small role. Best way to do it. They are just part of another universe in the multiverse. No harm done It would be like how James Bond was referenced in Black Widow
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jul 20, 2021 23:00:49 GMT 1
Still? Yes.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 21, 2021 0:03:49 GMT 1
Do we need to see the X-Men in the current iteration of the MCU? We just got through two decades of live-action films featuring them. The desire to reconstitute them somehow in the MCU seems suspiciously like gluttony in the fandom. If I have to get them via the multiverse, I'd rather not have them at all. It would be awesome to see them again in the mcu as a cameo or in a one-off small role. Best way to do it. They are just part of another universe in the multiverse. No harm done It would be like how James Bond was referenced in Black Widow As a cameo, that sounds like an appropriate way to pay homage to the Fox years. I just don't want to see them become a part of the main continuity via the multiverse. I like the multiverse as a concept, but it shouldn't be use to introduce characters from other continuities into the MCU.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jul 21, 2021 0:25:15 GMT 1
This guy thought multiverses were cool before thinking multiverses are cool was cool. WIZARD! GO SUPER-RABBIT GO!
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jul 21, 2021 0:25:51 GMT 1
Wonder if we'll see any of the Fox-men? or possibly even SUPER-RABBIT?
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jul 21, 2021 0:27:11 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jul 21, 2021 0:31:47 GMT 1
Still?
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jul 21, 2021 0:33:11 GMT 1
Just throwing this out there, if you think Multiverse is a "lazy" direction to go then you should hate Marvel Studios for going the time travel route with Endgame. Time travel is even more lazy I admit finding this thread again made me chuckle because now that Loki has done it the multiverse is suddenly “mind blowing and brilliant”. Guess we were ahead of the curve on this one!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 1:37:24 GMT 1
Do we need to see the X-Men in the current iteration of the MCU? We just got through two decades of live-action films featuring them. The desire to reconstitute them somehow in the MCU seems suspiciously like gluttony in the fandom. If I have to get them via the multiverse, I'd rather not have them at all. It would be awesome to see them again in the mcu as a cameo or in a one-off small role. Best way to do it. They are just part of another universe in the multiverse. No harm done It would be like how James Bond was referenced in Black Widow That would be cool. But in case I’ve created any confusion my original post was more about the multiverse introducing a new cast of original MCU X Men and F4. Like, say, the X Men are mutants from an alternate universe that get stranded here in the MCU timeline. Introducing other Marvel franchises to the MCU is about to be done in No Way Home though. So who knows? It’s all possible!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 1:38:36 GMT 1
Still? Yes. Oh.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 21, 2021 4:03:54 GMT 1
It would be awesome to see them again in the mcu as a cameo or in a one-off small role. Best way to do it. They are just part of another universe in the multiverse. No harm done It would be like how James Bond was referenced in Black Widow As a cameo, that sounds like an appropriate way to pay homage to the Fox years. I just don't want to see them become a part of the main continuity via the multiverse. I like the multiverse as a concept, but it shouldn't be use to introduce characters from other continuities into the MCU. This is where I stand. There are some interesting ideas to play around with. But I still contend that it can’t just be a magic hat to bring in anything you want. They can have a handful of exceptions to that, but if the entire thing just turns into an anything can happen any time affair, it would lose a lot of weight. And I don’t think they’ll do that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2021 4:59:14 GMT 1
As a cameo, that sounds like an appropriate way to pay homage to the Fox years. I just don't want to see them become a part of the main continuity via the multiverse. I like the multiverse as a concept, but it shouldn't be use to introduce characters from other continuities into the MCU. This is where I stand. There are some interesting ideas to play around with. But I still contend that it can’t just be a magic hat to bring in anything you want. They can have a handful of exceptions to that, but if the entire thing just turns into an anything can happen any time affair, it would lose a lot of weight. And I don’t think they’ll do that. You guys will watch it and you’ll love it. Don’t resist the multiverse, Archie. The multiverse will set us free!
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