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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 13:14:56 GMT 1
Any preferences?
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 27, 2020 13:25:29 GMT 1
Fantastic 4 should go first. Maybe in Doctor Strange. Multiverse you know. Maybe the first X-men in Black Panther II.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 27, 2020 15:48:35 GMT 1
Fantastic Four in Captain Marvel 2. Honestly I don't care when or if the X-Men show up.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2020 17:51:56 GMT 1
F4 in Spiderman 3. I want to see Spidey on screen with them because so many of his golden age comics featured team ups with the F4. It'd be so great to see, and it may never happen if they don't do it soon.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 0:38:29 GMT 1
Fantastic Four in Captain Marvel 2. Honestly I don't care when or if the X-Men show up.Why is that?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 0:39:07 GMT 1
F4 in Spiderman 3. I want to see Spidey on screen with them because so many of his golden age comics featured team ups with the F4. It'd be so great to see, and it may never happen if they don't do it soon. It would be great to see him interact with Johnny
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2020 7:08:49 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Apr 28, 2020 8:53:40 GMT 1
As long as that rumor about Tony Stark being responsible for the creation of the Fantastic Four doesn't come true, I'll be fine with whatever way they include them as long as it doesn't completely change their origin.
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 28, 2020 9:27:03 GMT 1
As long as that rumor about Tony Stark being responsible for the creation of the Fantastic Four doesn't come true, I'll be fine with whatever way they include them as long as it doesn't completely change their origin. Yeah I dont want to see anymore Tony Stark in the future of this MCU. His arc was awesome and it should stay that way. No need to drag him in to everything.
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Post by AQUA JAMES! on Apr 28, 2020 15:02:48 GMT 1
Fantastic 4 in Doctor Strange 2
X-Men in Eternals
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 28, 2020 15:03:50 GMT 1
Fantastic 4 in Doctor Strange 2 X-Men in Eternals X-men in Eternals? That early? Why do you think that?
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Post by AQUA JAMES! on Apr 28, 2020 15:06:25 GMT 1
Fantastic 4 in Doctor Strange 2 X-Men in Eternals X-men in Eternals? That early? Why do you think that? Eh, I just chose random movies. Besides, Eternals is a team so only fitting to hint at another to come.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 28, 2020 17:59:57 GMT 1
Fantastic Four in Captain Marvel 2. Honestly I don't care when or if the X-Men show up.Why is that? I've never been a big fan of the whole franchise. Most of the movies are average/forgettable and I find most of the characters to be boring. I also get really tired of the never-ending humans vs mutants prejudice allegory.
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Post by thisguy4000 on Apr 28, 2020 19:12:31 GMT 1
When they eventually bring Mutants into the MCU, I’m inclined to think that they’ll probably downplay the prejudice aspect of the story.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 25, 2020 19:17:46 GMT 1
Uh, yeah, no...
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Jun 25, 2020 19:50:28 GMT 1
Multiverses are dumb.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2020 23:01:45 GMT 1
No. Just no.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 25, 2020 23:56:09 GMT 1
If they can make it work with great results, why not?
But I suspect that they're going to reboot the X-Men and the Fantastic Four.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 0:10:14 GMT 1
If they can make it work with great results, why not? But I suspect that they're going to reboot the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. Well, it would still be a reboot though. I don't mean to say that they'll use previous casts. It'll be a new cast, just that the characters will be from an alternate dimension. A lot of rumors are pointing to this. I personally don't like it, but I think it could happen.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 26, 2020 0:19:29 GMT 1
If they can make it work with great results, why not? But I suspect that they're going to reboot the X-Men and the Fantastic Four. Well, it would still be a reboot though. I don't mean to say that they'll use previous casts. It'll be a new cast, just that the characters will be from an alternate dimension. A lot of rumors are pointing to this. I personally don't like it, but I think it could happen. Ok my bad. I misread the OP lol
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 0:21:20 GMT 1
Well, it would still be a reboot though. I don't mean to say that they'll use previous casts. It'll be a new cast, just that the characters will be from an alternate dimension. A lot of rumors are pointing to this. I personally don't like it, but I think it could happen. Ok my bad. I misread the OP lol I wasn't very clear on that. I wonder if the others in this thread thought I meant that too...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 0:24:48 GMT 1
You know, if this turns out to be true then The Fant4 and the X Men may appear in Dr Strange 2... Which would mean... That they'd be directed by Sam RAIMI!
OMG I would FANBOY OUT!!!!!@!!!!&!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 1:32:36 GMT 1
It's completely unnecessary and compromises the MCU's status as a self-contained film universe. They can't go around using the multiverse to circumvent every difficult hurdle. No, the Fantastic Four and X-Men HAVE to come from the MCU Earth we've been following. I will accept no other answer. Besides which, we can't become invested in a Fantastic Four and X-Men who aren't a part of the MCU's main world. The Fantastic Four aren't going to want to stay on a different Earth. They'll go home and then we'll be stuck following two Earths in the series, and, yeah, that's not happening because it's confusing. Just ask DC. The Fantastic Four will be from the main MCU Earth and they will get their powers at some point in the future. This would also essentially be dumping the X-Men into a world they have no connection with and has no connection with them, and that's not how the X-Men work. The X-Men is all about the personal relationship stuff. It's part of how they function as a story and as a metaphor of discrimination. Prejudice is something that develops and the MCU would be doing itself a huge favor by showing the very beginning of Mutantkind as well as the beginning of the discrimination against them. If the X-Men are just plopped into the MCU from another reality, they bring none of that with them and cut off the chance to watch it develop. So no. Just no. They have to be from MCU Earth Prime, and it's not that hard to do it. If the MCU tries to use the multiverse as a shortcut, that will be the moment the series jumps the shark and dies. Besides which, there's no room to spinoff into other X-Men-related properties if Earth-Prime just gets a bunch of X-Men dumped into it without all the other characters and stories attached to them. The X-gene HAS to develop on the Earth Prime we've been following, and cutting corners just by dumping X-Men into it is lame and lazy. There is no purpose to doing this, because then none of the people who ostracized the various Mutants (who HAVE to be their own friends and families from before they status as a Mutant was exposed) would exist in the main MCU world. The Mutants HAVE to come from the main MCU Earth, as well as the people who turn them away and force them to band together at places like the Brotherhood or Xavier's school. What's the fun in getting Nightcrawler dumped into the MCU without any of the context surrounding him? They can't bring it all into the Earth Prime, so we'd be stuck with an alien visitor who can only mention his past in passing. So, what, we end up with some Mutants but none of the stuff related to them? BORING. Scott Summers is a better character if his missing and estranged family exist in the same universe for him to reunite and sometimes interact with. Otherwise, they're just left in the universe he came from, never interact with him. You seriously don't see how this is a bad idea? Magneto is only meaningful if he's intrinsically familiar with the world he's living in and can see a pattern of prejudice repeating, because he was there to live through it before. Xavier is only rich because he fucking inherited it. No one is going to build a man from another dimension a mansion to teach "gifted" students in.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 1:53:16 GMT 1
I wouldnt mind it if they came from the negative zone
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 2:08:12 GMT 1
It's completely unnecessary and compromises the MCU's status as a self-contained film universe. They can't go around using the multiverse to circumvent every difficult hurdle. No, the Fantastic Four and X-Men HAVE to come from the MCU Earth we've been following. I will accept no other answer. Besides which, we can't become invested in a Fantastic Four and X-Men who aren't a part of the MCU's main world. The Fantastic Four aren't going to want to stay on a different Earth. They'll go home and then we'll be stuck following two Earths in the series, and, yeah, that's not happening because it's confusing. Just ask DC. The Fantastic Four will be from the main MCU Earth and they will get their powers at some point in the future. This would also essentially be dumping the X-Men into a world they have no connection with and has no connection with them, and that's not how the X-Men work. The X-Men is all about the personal relationship stuff. It's part of how they function as a story and as a metaphor of discrimination. Prejudice is something that develops and the MCU would be doing itself a huge favor by showing the very beginning of Mutantkind as well as the beginning of the discrimination against them. If the X-Men are just plopped into the MCU from another reality, they bring none of that with them and cut off the chance to watch it develop. So no. Just no. They have to be from MCU Earth Prime, and it's not that hard to do it. If the MCU tries to use the multiverse as a shortcut, that will be the moment the series jumps the shark and dies. Besides which, there's no room to spinoff into other X-Men-related properties if Earth-Prime just gets a bunch of X-Men dumped into it without all the other characters and stories attached to them. The X-gene HAS to develop on the Earth Prime we've been following, and cutting corners just by dumping X-Men into it is lame and lazy. There is no purpose to doing this, because then none of the people who ostracized the various Mutants (who HAVE to be their own friends and families from before they status as a Mutant was exposed) would exist in the main MCU world. The Mutants HAVE to come from the main MCU Earth, as well as the people who turn them away and force them to band together at places like the Brotherhood or Xavier's school. What's the fun in getting Nightcrawler dumped into the MCU without any of the context surrounding him? They can't bring it all into the Earth Prime, so we'd be stuck with an alien visitor who can only mention his past in passing. So, what, we end up with some Mutants but none of the stuff related to them? BORING. Scott Summers is a better character if his missing and estranged family exist in the same universe for him to reunite and sometimes interact with. Otherwise, they're just left in the universe he came from, never interact with him. You seriously don't see how this is a bad idea? Magneto is only meaningful if he's intrinsically familiar with the world he's living in and can see a pattern of prejudice repeating, because he was there to live through it before. Xavier is only rich because he fucking inherited it. No one is going to build a man from another dimension a mansion to teach "gifted" students in. I do see how it's a bad idea. I said as much in the OP. I agree with everything you said here actually. But... Rumors point to this being the case, unfortunately. I hope, as you do, that they're false. But something tells me this is what they're gonna do.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 2:11:17 GMT 1
It's completely unnecessary and compromises the MCU's status as a self-contained film universe. They can't go around using the multiverse to circumvent every difficult hurdle. No, the Fantastic Four and X-Men HAVE to come from the MCU Earth we've been following. I will accept no other answer. Besides which, we can't become invested in a Fantastic Four and X-Men who aren't a part of the MCU's main world. The Fantastic Four aren't going to want to stay on a different Earth. They'll go home and then we'll be stuck following two Earths in the series, and, yeah, that's not happening because it's confusing. Just ask DC. The Fantastic Four will be from the main MCU Earth and they will get their powers at some point in the future. This would also essentially be dumping the X-Men into a world they have no connection with and has no connection with them, and that's not how the X-Men work. The X-Men is all about the personal relationship stuff. It's part of how they function as a story and as a metaphor of discrimination. Prejudice is something that develops and the MCU would be doing itself a huge favor by showing the very beginning of Mutantkind as well as the beginning of the discrimination against them. If the X-Men are just plopped into the MCU from another reality, they bring none of that with them and cut off the chance to watch it develop. So no. Just no. They have to be from MCU Earth Prime, and it's not that hard to do it. If the MCU tries to use the multiverse as a shortcut, that will be the moment the series jumps the shark and dies. Besides which, there's no room to spinoff into other X-Men-related properties if Earth-Prime just gets a bunch of X-Men dumped into it without all the other characters and stories attached to them. The X-gene HAS to develop on the Earth Prime we've been following, and cutting corners just by dumping X-Men into it is lame and lazy. There is no purpose to doing this, because then none of the people who ostracized the various Mutants (who HAVE to be their own friends and families from before they status as a Mutant was exposed) would exist in the main MCU world. The Mutants HAVE to come from the main MCU Earth, as well as the people who turn them away and force them to band together at places like the Brotherhood or Xavier's school. What's the fun in getting Nightcrawler dumped into the MCU without any of the context surrounding him? They can't bring it all into the Earth Prime, so we'd be stuck with an alien visitor who can only mention his past in passing. So, what, we end up with some Mutants but none of the stuff related to them? BORING. Scott Summers is a better character if his missing and estranged family exist in the same universe for him to reunite and sometimes interact with. Otherwise, they're just left in the universe he came from, never interact with him. You seriously don't see how this is a bad idea? Magneto is only meaningful if he's intrinsically familiar with the world he's living in and can see a pattern of prejudice repeating, because he was there to live through it before. Xavier is only rich because he fucking inherited it. No one is going to build a man from another dimension a mansion to teach "gifted" students in. I do see how it's a bad idea. I said as much in the OP. I agree with everything you said here actually. But... Rumors point to this being the case, unfortunately. I hope, as you do, that they're false. But something tells me this is what they're gonna do. I haven't seen a single rumor with a credible source that says this will be the case. Why would you think this is what they're gonna do when they've played it so smart and played the long game for 12 years now?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2020 2:15:33 GMT 1
I do see how it's a bad idea. I said as much in the OP. I agree with everything you said here actually. But... Rumors point to this being the case, unfortunately. I hope, as you do, that they're false. But something tells me this is what they're gonna do. I haven't seen a single rumor with a credible source that says this will be the case. Why would you think this is what they're gonna do when they've played it so smart and played the long game for 12 years now? Well because A) it allows them to avoid retreading the same ground as previous incarnations of these characters. B) It allows the multiverse to play a big role in the MCU. C) It's just such a convenient way to bring them into the MCU fully formed. I hope they don't do it, but we'll see, I guess...
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