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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2021 0:26:21 GMT 1
Disney Seeks to Force Scarlett Johansson Suit to Arbitration linkI feel this is a strange argument as it's the end result that matters. There is a significant difference re total BO. Or am I missing something here? Sure but in the past it was assumed and an industry standard. These are not really great arguments by Disney imo...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 22, 2021 23:50:27 GMT 1
Disney Seeks to Force Scarlett Johansson Suit to Arbitration linkI feel this is a strange argument as it's the end result that matters. There is a significant difference re total BO. Or am I missing something here? Sure but in the past it was assumed and an industry standard. These are not really great arguments by Disney imo... Everyone is siding with Scarlett because of the human tendency to favor the "outstanding individual" in situations like this. While I'm decidedly neutral in this case, I do think Disney has the stronger argument. Black Widow's box office was exceptional given the current conditions. It outperformed several theatrical-only releases, but that does not mean it would have done significantly better as a theatrical-only release itself. And regardless of previous standard operating procedures or past expectations - this is simply not the past. With nothing explicitly barring them from a streaming release, I think Disney had the right to pivot their release strategy in a dynamically changing marketplace.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 23, 2021 10:54:02 GMT 1
Disney Seeks to Force Scarlett Johansson Suit to Arbitration linkI feel this is a strange argument as it's the end result that matters. There is a significant difference re total BO. Or am I missing something here? Sure but in the past it was assumed and an industry standard. These are not really great arguments by Disney imo... Everyone is siding with Scarlett because of the human tendency to favor the "outstanding individual" in situations like this. While I'm decidedly neutral in this case, I do think Disney has the stronger argument. Black Widow's box office was exceptional given the current conditions. It outperformed several theatrical-only releases, but that does not mean it would have done significantly better as a theatrical-only release itself. And regardless of previous standard operating procedures or past expectations - this is simply not the past. With nothing explicitly barring them from a streaming release, I think Disney had the right to pivot their release strategy in a dynamically changing marketplace. Perhaps but im siding with Scarlett because I genuinely believe she's in the right here. Thing is, that contract was made in the past
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Post by Indiana Jones on Aug 24, 2021 13:27:26 GMT 1
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 24, 2021 16:48:55 GMT 1
For crying out loud guys, this isn't Brown v The Board of Education. This is a routine contract dispute between a multi-billion dollar media company and a woman who gets paid millions of dollars to wear sexy clothes and play make believe on camera for a few weeks out of the year. A court or arbitration will decide what the contract covers or doesn't and it will be done and everyone will go about their business as usual.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 24, 2021 19:32:49 GMT 1
For crying out loud guys, this isn't Brown v The Board of Education. This is a routine contract dispute between a multi-billion dollar media company and a woman who gets paid millions of dollars to wear sexy clothes and play make believe on camera for a few weeks out of the year. A court or arbitration will decide what the contract covers or doesn't and it will be done and everyone will go about their business as usual. True enough, but one can argue that this case will likely set the precedent for how actors get compensated for streaming. I'm not saying she shouldn't get paid what she is owed but said "woman who makes millions of dollars to dress sexy and play pretend" will get even more millions. And that is ultimatley going to come out of our end in the form of increased subscription cost. I personally don't want or need that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 11:57:21 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 12:01:50 GMT 1
For crying out loud guys, this isn't Brown v The Board of Education. This is a routine contract dispute between a multi-billion dollar media company and a woman who gets paid millions of dollars to wear sexy clothes and play make believe on camera for a few weeks out of the year. A court or arbitration will decide what the contract covers or doesn't and it will be done and everyone will go about their business as usual. True enough, but one can argue that this case will likely set the precedent for how actors get compensated for streaming. I'm not saying she shouldn't get paid what she is owed but said "woman who makes millions of dollars to dress sexy and play pretend" will get even more millions. And that is ultimatley going to come out of our end in the form of increased subscription cost. I personally don't want or need that. The way I see it, if they're going to raise the price then they'll do it anyway regardless of this specific situation. It's not like Disney is poor. It would be an excuse if anything. Theyll also have to be wary of the fact that they may lose potential new or current subscribers due to the price change
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 25, 2021 14:23:58 GMT 1
True enough, but one can argue that this case will likely set the precedent for how actors get compensated for streaming. I'm not saying she shouldn't get paid what she is owed but said "woman who makes millions of dollars to dress sexy and play pretend" will get even more millions. And that is ultimatley going to come out of our end in the form of increased subscription cost. I personally don't want or need that. The way I see it, if they're going to raise the price then they'll do it anyway regardless of this specific situation. It's not like Disney is poor. It would be an excuse if anything. Theyll also have to be wary of the fact that they may lose potential new or current subscribers due to the price change I'd rather see the fee increases go into the productions instead of the pockets of overpaid, professional handsome people. $50 M Buys two episodes of a Disney+ show. j/s. The Disney+ shows are likely the future of the MCU.
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Post by Grandmaster on Aug 27, 2021 12:25:27 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 21, 2021 20:21:42 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 1, 2021 0:54:06 GMT 1
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 1, 2021 18:17:50 GMT 1
Don't make a big deal about this. It'll go to arbitration, Disney will write a check and everyone will be happy. DON'T EVER DOUBT ME AGAIN!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2021 22:44:55 GMT 1
Scarlett Johansson Wins As Disney Settles Lawsuit
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 2, 2021 0:07:37 GMT 1
Scarlett Johansson Wins As Disney Settles Lawsuit He is seriously mischaracterizing the situation. Nobody "won." The case was settled out of court, and the "big, fat check" Scarlett received was likely less than what she was initially expecting to receive. Disney's call for arbitration doesn't even constitute an admission of guilt.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 0:17:11 GMT 1
Scarlett Johansson Wins As Disney Settles Lawsuit He is seriously mischaracterizing the situation. Nobody "won." The case was settled out of court, and the "big, fat check" Scarlett received was likely less than what she was initially expecting to receive. Disney's call for arbitration doesn't even constitute an admission of guilt. Scarlett won, as per Deadline: Disney & Scarlett Johansson Resolve Bitter ‘Black Widow’ Profits Lawsuit; Big $$$ Win For Oscar Nominee
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 1:02:43 GMT 1
Honestly it was just badly managed to begin with. Slandering her to what end? Flimsy legal arguments. Scarlett's team tried to reach out but was rejected
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2021 1:50:54 GMT 1
Scarlett Johansson Wins As Disney Settles Lawsuit
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 3, 2021 20:54:14 GMT 1
He is seriously mischaracterizing the situation. Nobody "won." The case was settled out of court, and the "big, fat check" Scarlett received was likely less than what she was initially expecting to receive. Disney's call for arbitration doesn't even constitute an admission of guilt. Scarlett won, as per Deadline: Disney & Scarlett Johansson Resolve Bitter ‘Black Widow’ Profits Lawsuit; Big $$$ Win For Oscar Nominee
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Nice. This take from the Hollywood Report is much more accurate and less sensational, in my mind. Deadline, while great at scooping things, is not known for objective reporting. www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/scarlett-johansson-disney-settle-black-widow-lawsuit-1235022598/Johannson didn't really "win" anything per the rules of a US court of law. Since it never went to trial, there was literally nothing to win. Both parties agreed to negotiate their grievances privately. A negotiation, by definition, is when both parties compromise to get what they want. Disney won by NOT going to court. Scarlett won by receiving a settlement from Disney. This settlement will likely not be paid in a lump sum, and it will be contingent on her work in future projects with Disney. You give something to get something in a negotiation. Disney is a far bigger winner, if you ask me, in that they've forstalled the issues of legally having to share any of their streaming revenue with anyone but themselves. Scarlett's settlement comes from perceived losses at the box office. It is not a share of Disney+ revenue. Had they gone to court, she could have legally set precedence in which she and future actors dealing with Disney would legally be entitled to an equitable share of streaming profits. As it is now, she received a one-time payout, and there is no defined path for her back into the MCU - even if that's what she wanted.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 9, 2021 20:39:56 GMT 1
Watching Black Widow again. Now on DVD. I think a certain squid is happy I did buy it on disc as well.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2021 22:07:08 GMT 1
Watching Black Widow again. Now on DVD. I think a certain squid is happy I did buy it on disc as well. I got my copy on blu ray last month.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 19, 2021 23:13:34 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2021 2:32:19 GMT 1
Meanwhile-havent watched it yet myself lol. Seems hilarious. Chapek-not impressed so far. Disney+ Day too
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 20, 2021 11:57:22 GMT 1
Scarlett won, as per Deadline: Disney & Scarlett Johansson Resolve Bitter ‘Black Widow’ Profits Lawsuit; Big $$$ Win For Oscar Nominee
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Nice. This take from the Hollywood Report is much more accurate and less sensational, in my mind. Deadline, while great at scooping things, is not known for objective reporting. www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/scarlett-johansson-disney-settle-black-widow-lawsuit-1235022598/Johannson didn't really "win" anything per the rules of a US court of law. Since it never went to trial, there was literally nothing to win. Both parties agreed to negotiate their grievances privately. A negotiation, by definition, is when both parties compromise to get what they want. Disney won by NOT going to court. Scarlett won by receiving a settlement from Disney. This settlement will likely not be paid in a lump sum, and it will be contingent on her work in future projects with Disney. You give something to get something in a negotiation. Disney is a far bigger winner, if you ask me, in that they've forstalled the issues of legally having to share any of their streaming revenue with anyone but themselves. Scarlett's settlement comes from perceived losses at the box office. It is not a share of Disney+ revenue. Had they gone to court, she could have legally set precedence in which she and future actors dealing with Disney would legally be entitled to an equitable share of streaming profits. As it is now, she received a one-time payout, and there is no defined path for her back into the MCU - even if that's what she wanted. I still don’t understand this. They had to make a decision when dealing with a forced pandemic shutdown. I am convinced there has to be language in the contract stating they don’t have to follow terms in the event of extenuating unavoidable unforeseen circumstances and would then honor it in the most reasonable alternative way possible. Now maybe that includes whatever agreement theyve reached. IDK. But I see nothing wrong wrong with the way they released this film or obligation to make good on lost box office cuts for their actors. The studio themselves lost horribly. Everybody lost.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 2, 2022 1:05:54 GMT 1
Watching this one again,,, again, and I love it more and more. It’s got the spy thriller vibe, I love Natasha’s past and yelenas awakening revealing the return of the red room, it gets intensely sci fi, and feels like a black widow comic come to life. All of the side characters are great. This one is a huge win for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 3:29:52 GMT 1
Watching this one again,,, again, and I love it more and more. It’s got the spy thriller vibe, I love Natasha’s past and yelenas awakening revealing the return of the red room, it gets intensely sci fi, and feels like a black widow comic come to life. All of the side characters are great. This one is a huge win for me. Dude! I just watched this last night! No kidding. I think we have a psychic connection, Archie.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 2, 2022 3:47:53 GMT 1
Watching this one again,,, again, and I love it more and more. It’s got the spy thriller vibe, I love Natasha’s past and yelenas awakening revealing the return of the red room, it gets intensely sci fi, and feels like a black widow comic come to life. All of the side characters are great. This one is a huge win for me. Dude! I just watched this last night! No kidding. I think we have a psychic connection, Archie. lol that’s amazing. There’s a lot of phase 4 I needed to experience like it was the first time, and Black Widow is right up there among the most underrated IMO. It’s pretty fantastic the way the story unfolds structurally, how it ties to her past and is ignited by Yelena which gives her instant relevance, and they do a really good job of vacillating between action and genuine personal drama. I love it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 4:16:35 GMT 1
Dude! I just watched this last night! No kidding. I think we have a psychic connection, Archie. lol that’s amazing. There’s a lot of phase 4 I needed to experience like it was the first time, and Black Widow is right up there among the most underrated IMO. It’s pretty fantastic the way the story unfolds structurally, how it ties to her past and is ignited by Yelena which gives her instant relevance, and they do a really good job of vacillating between action and genuine personal drama. I love it. It was hotter than shit yesterday and my parents have AC. So I asked my dad if he wanted to watch this. He skipped it in theaters because of Covid 19. So we watched it in their nice air conditioned theater room.
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Post by Merv on Aug 2, 2022 4:22:05 GMT 1
Dude! I just watched this last night! No kidding. I think we have a psychic connection, Archie. lol that’s amazing. There’s a lot of phase 4 I needed to experience like it was the first time, and Black Widow is right up there among the most underrated IMO. It’s pretty fantastic the way the story unfolds structurally, how it ties to her past and is ignited by Yelena which gives her instant relevance, and they do a really good job of vacillating between action and genuine personal drama. I love it. It’s one of my favorites not just for phase 4 but of the whole MCU. I legitimately don’t understand the dislike it gets.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 2, 2022 12:06:41 GMT 1
lol that’s amazing. There’s a lot of phase 4 I needed to experience like it was the first time, and Black Widow is right up there among the most underrated IMO. It’s pretty fantastic the way the story unfolds structurally, how it ties to her past and is ignited by Yelena which gives her instant relevance, and they do a really good job of vacillating between action and genuine personal drama. I love it. It was hotter than shit yesterday and my parents have AC. So I asked my dad if he wanted to watch this. He skipped it in theaters because of Covid 19. So we watched it in their nice air conditioned theater room. theater room! Daaaang lol
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