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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 21, 2021 20:08:15 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family?
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 21, 2021 20:10:58 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 21, 2021 20:19:34 GMT 1
The fight scene in this with Sam. Dropping dudes out of the sky. That’s cold lol. Loved that flip over the copter gunner to drag him out the back move. Brilliant. I did have one potentially sensitive question. A little bit is being made of the potential of systemic racism being brought up, and that’s a fair topic. I can see that being an issue with the USAgent selection for sure. But my question is about the bank loan because I see a few people mentioning that. I’ll be honest that’s not how I interpreted that scene but I wanted to ask for your thoughts. To set the stage, I’m comparing it to the Spiderman 2 scene where May gets turned down for a loan. Both are reported to be due to lack of income/funding to justify the loan. Now it does appear that Sam’s sister feels this might be racially motivated, but I’m truthfully not sure anything in the scene indicates that it actually is. Not saying it can’t be, or isnt. I just didn’t see that in the banker’s response. I felt he was being honest about them not meeting the income qualifications. Please feel free to comment if you feel differently. This is not one of those things where I’ll insist I’m right. I want to know how it is people felt about this one. Sarah subtly pulls the race card with her comments; however, the banker was not motivated by race in his assessment of their qualifications. He was looking at the cold economic reality of the situation - while simultaneously being a douchebag. Sarah would naturally be on the lookout for any racial motivation in the denial of the loan if their family had been subject to the same or similar in the past. That’s how I felt about the situation. It’s an interesting part of racial relations that doesn’t get talked about much, but the perception of racism that may not actually exist. It’s a very tough line to walk because it’s easy to say that the person is dismissing racism outright. Clearly it can and does exist. But I can tell you I have encountered people as a clerk who have accused me of making a decision because they were black. To what extent they actually believed that was the case or if they were just trying to manipulate the situation, I’ll never know, but there is a factor of race relations that does come down to misunderstanding. The difficulty is, some people do make a racist decision. And some people deny how often these types of decisions are made. So if the person believes that is what I did, it’s a very difficult task to ever get around that, or to define a line in general between how much or little it actually occurs. I think this scene does a great job of hitting that grey area.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 22:08:32 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family? He should be mooching off of Old Man Cap!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 22:10:26 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family? He should be mooching off of Old Man Cap!
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 21, 2021 22:14:17 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family? He should be mooching off of Old Man Cap! GIVE BLACK FALCON CAPS SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 22:15:39 GMT 1
You know what? Change of plan. You gals can honey wrestle over me. Whoever wins gets a mansion in Florida. The other gets an apartment in NYC. There are no losers when you run with me. Now, catfight! Hang on. As the local Floridian Id like to get in on this mansion. I’ll fight em. We talking jello or pudding or what? We'd both kick your ass😜
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 21, 2021 22:16:49 GMT 1
Can't Black Falcon just borrow some money from the Stark family? He should be mooching off of Old Man Cap! GIVE BLACK FALCON CAPS SOCIAL SECURITY CHECK!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 21, 2021 22:21:10 GMT 1
Hang on. As the local Floridian Id like to get in on this mansion. I’ll fight em. We talking jello or pudding or what? We'd both kick your ass😜 awwwwww helllll nawwwww lol
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 22:21:55 GMT 1
Are the characters really supposed to be broke? That makes no sense. They could just sign deals with a toy company and boom instant pay check. And you’re telling me Budweiser wouldn’t shell out the big bucks to make a Super Bowl ad with a superhero!
The only character that makes sense being broke is Peter Parker because he still has a secret identity.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 21, 2021 22:29:05 GMT 1
Are the characters really supposed to be broke? That makes no sense. They could just sign deals with a toy company and boom instant pay check.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 23:09:09 GMT 1
Are the characters really supposed to be broke? That makes no sense. They could just sign deals with a toy company and boom instant pay check. And you’re telling me Budweiser wouldn’t shell out the big bucks to make a Super Bowl ad with a superhero! The only character that makes sense being broke is Peter Parker because he still has a secret identity. Snap? Thanos. Half the world gone for give years, causing everything to turn into total turmoil, followed by another Snap bringing everyone back just as things were getting settled, sending everything right back into a nosedive now that the world just suddenly has 4-5 billion additional people again, remember?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 21, 2021 23:28:31 GMT 1
That - and superpowers could become something of a commodity in the MCU. A tool or a weapon like any other to achieve national/non-state objectives.Just like what happens to Mutants a lot. If they actually do bring in the Power Broker, it'd be interesting to see him react to the existence of Mutants being revealed and his uncomfortable realization that his customers don't need him anymore. His or her services would undoubtedly become less valuable with the introduction of mutants. I do still think there would be a market for on-demand superpowers for any given situation - especially if you're not in a position to hire mutants to do the work for you.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 23:39:57 GMT 1
Just like what happens to Mutants a lot. If they actually do bring in the Power Broker, it'd be interesting to see him react to the existence of Mutants being revealed and his uncomfortable realization that his customers don't need him anymore. His or her services would undoubtedly become less valuable with the introduction of mutants. I do still think there would be a market for on-demand superpowers for any given situation - especially if you're not in a position to hire mutants to do the work for you. It'd also cause one heck of a power struggle as The Power Broker shifted their methods to stay in business. Could be ugly, and I wouldn't want to miss a minute of it.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 21, 2021 23:40:34 GMT 1
Are the characters really supposed to be broke? That makes no sense. They could just sign deals with a toy company and boom instant pay check. And you’re telling me Budweiser wouldn’t shell out the big bucks to make a Super Bowl ad with a superhero! The only character that makes sense being broke is Peter Parker because he still has a secret identity. Snap? Thanos. Half the world gone for give years, causing everything to turn into total turmoil, followed by another Snap bringing everyone back just as things were getting settled, sending everything right back into a nosedive now that the world just suddenly has 4-5 billion additional people again, remember? If you work for a government-sponsored organization, the commercialization of your superpowers would be highly impractical. I'd imagine that Uncle Sam wouldn't want you pedaling deodorant on your downtime. It is the same way you can't directly capitalize on being a Navy SEAL or a Marine. If you're a vigilante with a secret identity, it would likely be even more complex. Who would the checks be made out to, Spider-Man? Try cashing that at the bank. Would your earnings be placed in trust? Eventually, your identity would have to become public if you plan to pay taxes. The Boys universe presents the only viable solution - corporate developed and sponsored superhumans. If corporations were chiefly responsible for creating and funding superheroes, commercial interests like licensing and endorsement deals would be built in. Unless you already have money or a corporate sponsor, being broke comes with the superhero territory.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 23:47:28 GMT 1
Snap? Thanos. Half the world gone for give years, causing everything to turn into total turmoil, followed by another Snap bringing everyone back just as things were getting settled, sending everything right back into a nosedive now that the world just suddenly has 4-5 billion additional people again, remember? If you work for a government-sponsored organization, the commercialization of your superpowers would be highly impractical. I'd imagine that Uncle Sam wouldn't want you pedaling deodorant on your downtime. It is the same way you can't directly capitalize on being a Navy SEAL or a Marine. If you're a vigilante with a secret identity, it would likely be even more complex. Who would the checks be made out to, Spider-Man? Try cashing that at the bank. Would your earnings be placed in trust? Eventually, your identity would have to become public if you plan to pay taxes. The Boys universe presents the only viable solution - corporate developed and sponsored superhumans. If corporations were chiefly responsible for creating and funding superheroes, commercial interests like licensing and endorsement deals would be built in. Unless you already have money or a corporate sponsor, being broke comes with the superhero territory. Yep. I'm shocked it took the MCU this long to start covering this.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 21, 2021 23:52:47 GMT 1
His or her services would undoubtedly become less valuable with the introduction of mutants. I do still think there would be a market for on-demand superpowers for any given situation - especially if you're not in a position to hire mutants to do the work for you. It'd also cause one heck of a power struggle as The Power Broker shifted their methods to stay in business. Could be ugly, and I wouldn't want to miss a minute of it. To go a little deeper down the rabbit hole, Zemo may be the Power Broker. If he's trying to discredit superheroes, creating an anti-government cabal of them would help to make his case. It's the Zemo thing to do. In our review of Episode One, the podcast panel also debated whether or not John Walker could also be a part of Zemo's conspiracy.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2021 23:55:57 GMT 1
It'd also cause one heck of a power struggle as The Power Broker shifted their methods to stay in business. Could be ugly, and I wouldn't want to miss a minute of it. To go a little deeper down the rabbit hole, Zemo may be the Power Broker. If he's trying to discredit superheroes, creating an anti-government cabal of them would help to make his case. It's the Zemo thing to do. In our review of Episode One, the podcast panel also debated whether or not John Walker could also be a part of Zemo's conspiracy. That, or a happy accident that'll help him make his case with very little pushing.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Mar 22, 2021 0:13:42 GMT 1
It'd be cool if the new Captain America was bad. Not villain in disguise bad, more like ideologue that goes too far bad. He has a smiley bastard's face and a chin that's somewhere between Superman and Mussolini. I'm wondering if he's a pawn in a bigger game or a judge, jury and executioner type the others have to stop to protect the mantle.
I always wondered what being an Avenger pays by the hour. Saving the world doesn't pay because it's priceless.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 22, 2021 0:51:45 GMT 1
It'd be cool if the new Captain America was bad. Not villain in disguise bad, more like ideologue that goes too far bad. He has a smiley bastard's face and a chin that's somewhere between Superman and Mussolini. I'm wondering if he's a pawn in a bigger game or a judge, jury and executioner type the others have to stop to protect the mantle. I always wondered what being an Avenger pays by the hour. Saving the world doesn't pay because it's priceless.
If they go by the source, Walker is a brute. Even contemporary comics portray him that way --- monster truck rallies and the whole nine yards. One item of note in his introduction was the presence of a sidearm on his hip. Steve used one during the war but retired it when he joined the Avengers. I doubt it's ceremonial in Walker's case.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 1:07:32 GMT 1
Snap? Thanos. Half the world gone for give years, causing everything to turn into total turmoil, followed by another Snap bringing everyone back just as things were getting settled, sending everything right back into a nosedive now that the world just suddenly has 4-5 billion additional people again, remember? If you work for a government-sponsored organization, the commercialization of your superpowers would be highly impractical. I'd imagine that Uncle Sam wouldn't want you pedaling deodorant on your downtime. It is the same way you can't directly capitalize on being a Navy SEAL or a Marine. If you're a vigilante with a secret identity, it would likely be even more complex. Who would the checks be made out to, Spider-Man? Try cashing that at the bank. Would your earnings be placed in trust? Eventually, your identity would have to become public if you plan to pay taxes. The Boys universe presents the only viable solution - corporate developed and sponsored superhumans. If corporations were chiefly responsible for creating and funding superheroes, commercial interests like licensing and endorsement deals would be built in. Unless you already have money or a corporate sponsor, being broke comes with the superhero territory. Of course you two felt compelled to post contrarian replies. Some things never change. Ackbar is LOLing at this! Also, I mentioned Spidey and secret identities in my post already. -10 points!
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Mar 22, 2021 1:39:47 GMT 1
So do you think US Agent will become a good guy at the end by the end?
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 22, 2021 1:53:02 GMT 1
So do you think US Agent will become a good guy at the end by the end? *fan theory
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 1:59:42 GMT 1
If you work for a government-sponsored organization, the commercialization of your superpowers would be highly impractical. I'd imagine that Uncle Sam wouldn't want you pedaling deodorant on your downtime. It is the same way you can't directly capitalize on being a Navy SEAL or a Marine. If you're a vigilante with a secret identity, it would likely be even more complex. Who would the checks be made out to, Spider-Man? Try cashing that at the bank. Would your earnings be placed in trust? Eventually, your identity would have to become public if you plan to pay taxes. The Boys universe presents the only viable solution - corporate developed and sponsored superhumans. If corporations were chiefly responsible for creating and funding superheroes, commercial interests like licensing and endorsement deals would be built in. Unless you already have money or a corporate sponsor, being broke comes with the superhero territory. Of course you two felt compelled to post contrarian replies. Some things never change. Ackbar is LOLing at this! Also, I mentioned Spidey and secret identities in my post already. -10 points! I'm so sorry that I often disagree with you. Not sorry if I don't actively look for things to be wrong with the MCU like you seem to do, though.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 2:04:34 GMT 1
Of course you two felt compelled to post contrarian replies. Some things never change. Ackbar is LOLing at this! Also, I mentioned Spidey and secret identities in my post already. -10 points! I'm so sorry that I often disagree with you. Not sorry if I don't actively look for things to be wrong with the MCU like you seem to do, though. For what it’s worth, your counter argument was better than Skully’s.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Mar 22, 2021 2:07:36 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2021 2:08:41 GMT 1
I'm so sorry that I often disagree with you. Not sorry if I don't actively look for things to be wrong with the MCU like you seem to do, though. For what it’s worth, your counter argument was better than Skull Boy’s. Care to explain why you've been more negative towards the series lately? It seems like everything you post about the MCU these days is a criticism, which is curious considering you haven't seen the WandaVision or Falcon and the Winter Soldier. I remember last year when you finished your MCU rewatch and concluded we were being spoiled silly by this golden age of comic book movies and should just enjoy it while it lasts.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 22, 2021 3:24:25 GMT 1
So do you think US Agent will become a good guy at the end by the end? I think he may well. Part of me says that because he isn’t called USAgent yet. Perhaps that’s because he’ll give up the Captain America title. Another big factor is we have up to 4 villains currently. Zemo, Flag Smasher, Batroc, and USAgent. It stands to reason zemo is the lead, and I’m not sure all 4 are related, but a solution here is that USAgent winds up being an obstacle to stopping them or fails in his own right, or simply joins the boys. We’ll see.
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Post by Bucky on Mar 22, 2021 5:35:09 GMT 1
Hang on. As the local Floridian Id like to get in on this mansion. I’ll fight em. We talking jello or pudding or what? We'd both kick your ass😜 This is what I'm talking about!!!! Who else wants to fight over me? Honestly never been in a position where it's two girls and a guy. Well, brave new world
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 22, 2021 16:29:38 GMT 1
The Flagsmasher manifesto
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