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Post by AQUA CAT! on Nov 13, 2022 7:15:31 GMT 1
I'll be getting into this shortly. Word on the street is it's violently amazing. Someone told me it's the best thing in the Star Wars universe. I assume he means past the original trilogy, but maybe he doesn't. Dun dun dun.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 13, 2022 7:25:47 GMT 1
I'll be getting into this shortly. Word on the street is it's violently amazing. Someone told me it's the best thing in the Star Wars universe. I assume he means past the original trilogy, but maybe he doesn't. Dun dun dun. No no, this makes the rest of Star Wars seem silly. This show is vastly superior to the OT
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 13, 2022 12:03:06 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Nov 13, 2022 17:46:18 GMT 1
I'll be getting into this shortly. Word on the street is it's violently amazing. Someone told me it's the best thing in the Star Wars universe. I assume he means past the original trilogy, but maybe he doesn't. Dun dun dun. No no, this makes the rest of Star Wars seem silly. This show is vastly superior to the OT Nice. That's a ringing endorsement if I ever heard one!
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 14, 2022 17:51:53 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 14, 2022 18:49:23 GMT 1
Likely a ploy to pick up more viewers. Hope it works.
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Post by Merv on Nov 16, 2022 12:54:46 GMT 1
One of the best things added to Star Wars in a while is the character of Luthen.
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Post by Jan El Señor on Nov 17, 2022 1:44:18 GMT 1
The best show so far.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 17, 2022 16:39:11 GMT 1
One of the best things added to Star Wars in a while is the character of Luthen. Maybe the show should be called Andor and Luthen.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 17, 2022 16:41:54 GMT 1
While not scaling the heights of previous episodes, Daughter of Ferrix, is still challenging nonetheless. It feels like it was designed to move the pieces in place for the upcoming finale.
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Post by Merv on Nov 17, 2022 19:56:10 GMT 1
While not scaling the heights of previous episodes, Daughter of Ferrix, is still challenging nonetheless. It feels like it was designed to move the pieces in place for the upcoming finale. It was also very somber, getting the grief out of the way.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 17, 2022 21:42:47 GMT 1
While not scaling the heights of previous episodes, Daughter of Ferrix, is still challenging nonetheless. It feels like it was designed to move the pieces in place for the upcoming finale. It was also very somber, getting the grief out of the way. It also lays the groundwork for an intriguing finale where multiple, opposing parties will converge on a funeral.
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Post by Merv on Nov 17, 2022 22:28:48 GMT 1
It was also very somber, getting the grief out of the way. It also lays the groundwork for an intriguing finale where multiple, opposing parties will converge on a funeral. Everyone going to Ferrix!
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 18, 2022 4:43:55 GMT 1
It also lays the groundwork for an intriguing finale where multiple, opposing parties will converge on a funeral. Everyone going to Ferrix! Before it was known as Ferrix the planet's original name was New Tatooine.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 20, 2022 12:35:58 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 23, 2022 16:40:25 GMT 1
Andor is officially my favorite show of 2022. It was better than House of the Dragon and The Rings of Power. And, in all honesty, it was better than a lot of the recent original programming on HBO and Netflix that gets praised to heaven and back.
Andor didn't rely on rape, abuse, child murder, torture (although, there is some of this, but it's mostly implied), castration, cannibalism, incest, or any other strictly-for-shock-value hijinks employed by streaming to get you to hit "continue watching."
It's hard to convey Andor's rare sense of urgency and humanity - it's an epic ode to insurgency. Andor's thesis is that it is not enough to declare yourself a rebel in a given struggle - you must go further - you must, in fact, rebel.
I love that this show rewards slow and deliberate consumption instead of manic episode gobbling, followed by the inevitable high-velocity stream of projectile nitpicking.
I never say this about anything in the realm of mass entertainment, but, here I believe it's warranted - if you watched Andor and didn't like it, there would be little to gain from our continued association.
Can't wait for season 2.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 23, 2022 16:56:42 GMT 1
Andor is officially my favorite show of 2022. It was better than House of the Dragon and The Rings of Power. And, in all honesty, it was better than a lot of the recent original programming on HBO and Netflix that gets praised to heaven and back. Andor didn't rely on rape, abuse, child murder, torture (although, there is some of this, but it's mostly implied), castration, cannibalism, incest, or any other strictly-for-shock-value hijinks employed by streaming to get you to hit "continue watching." It's hard to convey Andor's rare sense of urgency and humanity - it's an epic ode to insurgency. Andor's thesis is that it is not enough to declare yourself a rebel in a given struggle - you must go further - you must, in fact, rebel. I love that this show rewards slow and deliberate consumption instead of manic episode gobbling, followed by the inevitable high-velocity stream of projectile nitpicking. I never say this about anything in the realm of mass entertainment, but, here I believe it's warranted - if you watched Andor and didn't like it, there would be little to gain from our continued association. Can't wait for season 2.
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Post by Merv on Nov 23, 2022 21:11:17 GMT 1
This episode was a bit of a disappointment…is something I WONT be saying! This was just a fantastic season of television. Now begins the long, sad, lonely waiting game before season 2.
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Post by Merv on Nov 23, 2022 21:47:15 GMT 1
In a show full of great monologues…Maarvas gave me goosebumps. Loved it so much.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 23, 2022 22:29:14 GMT 1
In a show full of great monologues…Maarvas gave me goosebumps. Loved it so much. Yes, that was THEE highlight of the episode - scary good. I love that we got another fascist embrace. Syril and Meero are like a gender-swapped Hitler and Braun. They are equal parts chaste, unrequited lovers and psychotic bannermen for their fascist cause. He thinks he's the hero. I love how the Anto massacre was referred to as a palette cleanser for Aldani. I desperately need a detachment of Death Troopers to be my personal escorts everywhere I go. Their loadout is sick.
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Post by Merv on Nov 23, 2022 23:27:33 GMT 1
In a show full of great monologues…Maarvas gave me goosebumps. Loved it so much. Yes, that was THEE highlight of the episode - scary good. I love that we got another fascist embrace. Syril and Meero are like a gender-swapped Hitler and Braun. They are equal parts chaste, unrequited lovers and psychotic bannermen for their fascist cause. He thinks he's the hero. I love how the Anto massacre was referred to as a palette cleanser for Aldani. I desperately need a detachment of Death Troopers to be my personal escorts everywhere I go. Their loadout is sick. I kind of wish we got more Syril and Dedre's awkwardly romantic power couple for the Empire but their stage is certainly set for season 2 so Im fine with waiting. Syril definitely thinks he's the hero of this story and that's an awesome trait for a villain to have. I actually said out loud in my best Emperor Palpatine voice 'Yes, yes.' after they mentioned him, lol. I could picture him sitting on a balcony somewhere rubbing his hands together. The Death Troopers looked great. Brasso using Maravas brick to beat the hell out of stormtroopers isn't something I knew I needed, but once I got it, that's all I wanted.
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Post by bodawg70 on Nov 24, 2022 6:17:06 GMT 1
The Finale of Andor is no doubt the best Finale of any show on Disney + as well as the other streaming networks. Andor gave us a view of Star Wars that we haven't had before. The xtra credit scene showing us the construction of the Death Star gave me chills and it reassured me that the direction of this show was exactly what I thought it was in the beginning. I am happy that Cassian rescued Bix and as far as we know they made it out alright. I fell in love with the acting, special effects,and the music. The soundtrack for the Finale is sooo dramatic that I couldn't help but sit on the edge of my seat and anticipate every move that Cassian and funeral rebellion was making I couldn't help but wish for the empire to fail! Maarva and the holographic call from the grave "to rise" gave me chills. I loved this series and I loved all of the characters, I didn't experience one "bad" episode, I can't wait for season 2.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 24, 2022 13:24:51 GMT 1
Indeed. This part of Maarva's speech and than these shots of Bix... Freaking amazing.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 26, 2022 10:03:28 GMT 1
Just rewatched it for my show notes.
Damn this was really really good.
Im dead serious when I say this outshines all that came before in this franchise.
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Post by Merv on Nov 28, 2022 1:40:41 GMT 1
I felt a little fogheaded today, didn't remember to ask this during our review but...
Does anyone know why Syril and Mosk exchange hats on the train before the funeral?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 28, 2022 1:47:32 GMT 1
I felt a little fogheaded today, didn't remember to ask this during our review but... Does anyone know why Syril and Mosk exchange hats on the train before the funeral? No clue. If I had to speculate, it was probably some non-verbal gesture of friendship and allegiance. There's probably some arcane tradition of switching hats before a battle that I've never heard of… Andor would roll like that.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 28, 2022 2:00:32 GMT 1
Turning to Mon Mothma, she has clearly reconciled herself with "selling" her daughter to the highest bidder and setting the ISB on her husband.
It doesn't help that both are somewhat unlikeable characters. In a lesser drama, that would justify the viewer feeling like her actions were reasonable.
In Andor, it still feels like a necessary evil for the good of "the cause," making Mothma into an extremist. Her daughter is young, impressionable, and likely just acting out against Mon's absenteeism and devotion to her progressive ideology. Her husband, a slovenly hedonist, does seem like he's trying to control his darker urges.
Does either of them really deserve to be sold up the alliance river?
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Post by Merv on Nov 28, 2022 2:23:39 GMT 1
I felt a little fogheaded today, didn't remember to ask this during our review but... Does anyone know why Syril and Mosk exchange hats on the train before the funeral? No clue. If I had to speculate, it was probably some non-verbal gesture of friendship and allegiance. There's probably some arcane tradition of switching hats before a battle that I've never heard of… Andor would roll like that. New thought...I went back to the first few episodes and it appears like Pre-Mor security used red/orange brims on their caps to designate higher ranks. When Pre-Mor arrives in Ferrix the first time they have a lot of grunts wearing straight gray caps but only characters like Syril and Mosk had an orange brim. Im guessing the swap of hats is basically Mosk telling Syril hes in charge here. There might even be some deleted footage of Syril talking about his hat as he seems to be inspecting it right before Mosk hands him his own hat. Anyhow that's my newest theory.
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Post by Merv on Nov 28, 2022 2:29:51 GMT 1
Turning to Mon Mothma, she has clearly reconciled herself with "selling" her daughter to the highest bidder and setting the ISB on her husband. It doesn't help that both are somewhat unlikeable characters. In a lesser drama, that would justify the viewer feeling like her actions were reasonable. In Andor, it still feels like a necessary evil for the good of "the cause," making Mothma into an extremist. Her daughter is young, impressionable, and likely just acting out against Mon's absenteeism and devotion to her progressive ideology. Her husband, a slovenly hedonist, does seem like he's trying to control his darker urges. Does either of them really deserve to be sold up the alliance river? I do think a lot of the previous few episodes have been Mothma accepting the notion that she has to sacrifice her family, in a sense, in order for the rebellion to maintain course. The actress did a hell of a job portraying as much without much dialog. I wonder if this wont lead Perrin right into the pocket of Inspector Blevin, which may or may not be what Mothma expects.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 28, 2022 3:43:52 GMT 1
Turning to Mon Mothma, she has clearly reconciled herself with "selling" her daughter to the highest bidder and setting the ISB on her husband. It doesn't help that both are somewhat unlikeable characters. In a lesser drama, that would justify the viewer feeling like her actions were reasonable. In Andor, it still feels like a necessary evil for the good of "the cause," making Mothma into an extremist. Her daughter is young, impressionable, and likely just acting out against Mon's absenteeism and devotion to her progressive ideology. Her husband, a slovenly hedonist, does seem like he's trying to control his darker urges. Does either of them really deserve to be sold up the alliance river? I do think a lot of the previous few episodes have been Mothma accepting the notion that she has to sacrifice her family, in a sense, in order for the rebellion to maintain course. The actress did a hell of a job portraying as much without much dialog. I wonder if this wont lead Perrin right into the pocket of Inspector Blevin, which may or may not be what Mothma expects. Yes, Mothma seems strangely resigned to it all but also a little regretful. Vel would have given them up easily (despite her token displays of affection for her niece). Mothma is more complicated that way. They set up a rivalry between Meero and Blevin that got sidetracked. I hope they pick up on this thread in the next season. Mothma may think she can pull this all back from the brink somehow. Genevieve O'Reilly turned out to be much more than a Caroline Blakiston lookalike. She's greatly expanded our understanding of the character.
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