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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jul 30, 2022 22:26:17 GMT 1
The poll is now locked, so can't vote. But my choice wasn't listed anyway. It is right above "It was terrible. Just horrible. Ass on wheels. One of Marvel’s worst." It ain't the worse, the Affleck version of Daredevil gets that one, but doing a parody inside the MCU is not a good sign. Mel Brooks can lampoon Star Wars and Tim Allen Star Trek, but George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry should not. It would be like hold one's own child out for public ridicule. So, whoever is ultimately responsible for this movie missed it by that much. All the right heroes are there, but they are poorly assembled and even disrespected. I'm still in shock Waititi directed this. I have read and listen to some of his pre-release comments and starting to suspect he was forced to tone down the movie and this dull theatrical release is his revenge. With all the contracts and NDAs they are all must sign, he certainly can't voice his opinion about it if he is pissed off. If he really had wanted to go to Planet X with this space Viking romp, he should have made it an operetta. Wagner is the public domain, so let it rip. Crap, I may have put a time limit on the poll. It won’t let me unlock. I agree with your assessment though. Self parodying one’s own work is most odd. Self depreciating humor has been part of Marvel’s MO since Phase Two, but never to this extent. As far as NDAs goes I suspect a lot of former Marvel collaborators are gonna unload on the franchise one day. I suspect the original cut of LaT was more balanced like Ragnorock. We already know Taika was forced to remove all the darker scenes involving Gorr. At least three of his scenes are confirmed to have been deleted. THAT'S SUPPRESSION OF MY FREE SPEECH REITS!!!243t860uifjlk!! THE NEW ACKBAR ADMINISTRATION IS SILENCING US!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2022 22:49:45 GMT 1
Crap, I may have put a time limit on the poll. It won’t let me unlock. I agree with your assessment though. Self parodying one’s own work is most odd. Self depreciating humor has been part of Marvel’s MO since Phase Two, but never to this extent. As far as NDAs goes I suspect a lot of former Marvel collaborators are gonna unload on the franchise one day. I suspect the original cut of LaT was more balanced like Ragnorock. We already know Taika was forced to remove all the darker scenes involving Gorr. At least three of his scenes are confirmed to have been deleted. THAT'S SUPPRESSION OF MY FREE SPEECH REITS!!!243t860uifjlk!! THE NEW ACKBAR ADMINISTRATION IS SILENCING US! I’ve got you all in the TRAP.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jul 31, 2022 2:27:37 GMT 1
THAT'S SUPPRESSION OF MY FREE SPEECH REITS!!!243t860uifjlk!! THE NEW ACKBAR ADMINISTRATION IS SILENCING US! I’ve got you all in the TRAP. #impeach @ghostyghostington #restore Grandmaster tooffice
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2022 5:07:20 GMT 1
I’ve got you all in the TRAP. #impeach @ghostyghostington #restore Grandmaster tooffice Grandmaster is a communist. Ghost Groot will keep all us capitalist pigs fat and giggly.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 31, 2022 5:10:42 GMT 1
Im going against my nature here as Dicktator of Sakaar and give democracy a chance for once.
You prisoners with jobs may vote.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 31, 2022 8:24:29 GMT 1
In case @ghostyghostington forgot... Me and AQUA JAR!™ hold unlimited power here. He is just another member of the plebs
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 5:18:49 GMT 1
In case @ghostyghostington forgot... Me and AQUA JAR!™ hold unlimited power here. He is just another member of the plebs Oh but that’s where you’re wrong. Ackbars always share power. It’s the Ackbar code. If he’s in charge so am I! It’s like, if I became president, my boy AQUA JAR!™ would have access to the nuclear codes. It’s how we roll, baby.
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Post by Grandmaster on Aug 1, 2022 5:36:12 GMT 1
In case @ghostyghostington forgot... Me and AQUA JAR!™ hold unlimited power here. He is just another member of the plebs Oh but that’s where you’re wrong. Ackbars always share power. It’s the Ackbar code. If he’s in charge so am I! It’s like, if I became president, my boy AQUA JAR!™ would have access to the nuclear codes. It’s how we roll, baby. Oh
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 7:14:02 GMT 1
Oh but that’s where you’re wrong. Ackbars always share power. It’s the Ackbar code. If he’s in charge so am I! It’s like, if I became president, my boy AQUA JAR!™ would have access to the nuclear codes. It’s how we roll, baby. Oh Don't trust him! We need to build a wall around Sakaar!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 1, 2022 8:57:12 GMT 1
I think the more lightheartedness in this case serves to balance the utter terror Gorr brings along with the sadness of Jane’s situation. This seems to be how Thor deals with life or else he’s swallowed up emotionally in the depression of how much he’s lost. That’s what we saw happen to him in endgame. For the audience the high contrast highlights the moments Gorr shows up when you realize, No they are actually taking this seriously in all the places it really counts.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 18:31:10 GMT 1
I think the more lightheartedness in this case serves to balance the utter terror Gorr brings along with the sadness of Jane’s situation. This seems to be how Thor deals with life or else he’s swallowed up emotionally in the depression of how much he’s lost. That’s what we saw happen to him in endgame. For the audience the high contrast highlights the moments Gorr shows up when you realize, No they are actually taking this seriously in all the places it really counts. Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 1, 2022 19:06:59 GMT 1
I think the more lightheartedness in this case serves to balance the utter terror Gorr brings along with the sadness of Jane’s situation. This seems to be how Thor deals with life or else he’s swallowed up emotionally in the depression of how much he’s lost. That’s what we saw happen to him in endgame. For the audience the high contrast highlights the moments Gorr shows up when you realize, No they are actually taking this seriously in all the places it really counts. Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot? He could do it but you’re asking someone who isn’t exactly a Superman fanatic. ;-)
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Aug 1, 2022 19:26:18 GMT 1
I think the more lightheartedness in this case serves to balance the utter terror Gorr brings along with the sadness of Jane’s situation. This seems to be how Thor deals with life or else he’s swallowed up emotionally in the depression of how much he’s lost. That’s what we saw happen to him in endgame. For the audience the high contrast highlights the moments Gorr shows up when you realize, No they are actually taking this seriously in all the places it really counts. Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot?
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 19:41:08 GMT 1
I think the more lightheartedness in this case serves to balance the utter terror Gorr brings along with the sadness of Jane’s situation. This seems to be how Thor deals with life or else he’s swallowed up emotionally in the depression of how much he’s lost. That’s what we saw happen to him in endgame. For the audience the high contrast highlights the moments Gorr shows up when you realize, No they are actually taking this seriously in all the places it really counts. Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot? He could probably do it if WB told him on no uncertain terms, "Don't let it get goofier than Thor Ragnarök."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 20:30:06 GMT 1
Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot? He could probably do it if WB told him on no uncertain terms, "Don't let it get goofier than Thor Ragnarök." No. No. I think it should get goofier than Ragnorock, though. It’d be a nice contrast to the grim dark Snyder Supes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 20:41:56 GMT 1
Do you like my idea of Taikia directing a Superman reboot? He could do it but you’re asking someone who isn’t exactly a Superman fanatic. ;-) #HashtagGiveSupestheWatiti If you get a chance make sure to rehash ^this^ tweet-tag. I’m low key trying to get this thing to trend.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 20:42:22 GMT 1
He could probably do it if WB told him on no uncertain terms, "Don't let it get goofier than Thor Ragnarök." No. No. I think it should get goofier than Ragnorock, though. It’d be a nice contrast to the grim dark Snyder Supes. Hmm... I'm on the fence about that proposal. I think Superman carries enough gravitus as a character to warrant some level of seriousness.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 20:45:00 GMT 1
No. No. I think it should get goofier than Ragnorock, though. It’d be a nice contrast to the grim dark Snyder Supes. Hmm... I'm on the fence about that proposal. I think Superman carries enough gravitus as a character to warrant some level of seriousness. He’s very similar to Thor though. The serious portrayals haven’t landed with modern audiences. They need to laugh at him a little bit in order to swallow the mythos. I think it could work with Supes.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 20:48:49 GMT 1
Hmm... I'm on the fence about that proposal. I think Superman carries enough gravitus as a character to warrant some level of seriousness. He’s very similar to Thor though. The serious portrayals haven’t landed with modern audiences. They need to laugh at him a little bit in order to swallow the mythos. I think it could work with Supes. I agree with that completely. I also think there's a balance to strike. I agree a Superman film needs to be able to have a laugh at it its innate silliness, but can also become serious when it needs to.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2022 20:52:38 GMT 1
He’s very similar to Thor though. The serious portrayals haven’t landed with modern audiences. They need to laugh at him a little bit in order to swallow the mythos. I think it could work with Supes. I agree with that completely. I also think there's a balance to strike. I agree a Superman film needs to be able to have a laugh at it its innate silliness, but can also become serious when it needs to. It’s the only way the movie gets made now. The kids don’t want to like things like that “unironically” anymore.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 21:13:16 GMT 1
I agree with that completely. I also think there's a balance to strike. I agree a Superman film needs to be able to have a laugh at it its innate silliness, but can also become serious when it needs to. It’s the only way the movie gets made now. The kids don’t want to like things like that “unironically” anymore. It'll pass. I'm not promising in the next couple years, but styles always change with time.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 1, 2022 21:29:41 GMT 1
He could do it but you’re asking someone who isn’t exactly a Superman fanatic. ;-) #HashtagGiveSupestheWatiti If you get a chance make sure to rehash ^this^ tweet-tag. I’m low key trying to get this thing to trend. I had a what if idea I’d be interested in. What if superman had arrived 5000 years ago. What would he be like now
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 21:31:53 GMT 1
#HashtagGiveSupestheWatiti If you get a chance make sure to rehash ^this^ tweet-tag. I’m low key trying to get this thing to trend. I had a what if idea I’d be interested in. What if superman had arrived 5000 years ago. What would he be like now Like, he's the source of various myths about gods? I could dig it.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 1, 2022 23:30:44 GMT 1
I had a what if idea I’d be interested in. What if superman had arrived 5000 years ago. What would he be like now Like, he's the source of various myths about gods? I could dig it. that and what’s it like to be that old. Can you maintain the positive heroic outlook all that time or has he gone through periods of apathy? How does he view the progress of humanity. Etc.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Aug 1, 2022 23:36:48 GMT 1
Like, he's the source of various myths about gods? I could dig it. that and what’s it like to be that old. Can you maintain the positive heroic outlook all that time or has he gone through periods of apathy? How does he view the progress of humanity. Etc. I had a similar idea once, but on a much short term time table. I was gonna have him arrive on Earth in 1923, and debut as Superman in 1938, the year of his real-life debut as a superhero with everyone he initially started out with in his social circle (Lois, Jimmy, Perry, ect.) all dead, and it'd cover similar themes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2022 0:00:52 GMT 1
So where does everyone rank Thor Four on their MCU list? I’m undecided. I think this one could end up growing on me. I wasn’t a fan of Fat Bro Thor when I first saw End Game, but now he’s my favorite part of the movie. That may happen here too.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Sept 14, 2022 23:01:20 GMT 1
“It’s terrible. ASS ON WHEELS” won in a landslide? After watching this, I can understand why...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 6:31:06 GMT 1
“It’s terrible. ASS ON WHEELS” won in a landslide? After watching this, I can understand why... 😂
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 15, 2022 8:32:33 GMT 1
Ehhh they’ll figure it out. They’ve shifted tones before. I’m not stressing it Thor The Dark World vs Love and Thunder? What’d ya got? The Dark World. Not even close.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Sept 15, 2022 10:33:18 GMT 1
The most frustrating thing about the movie (gathering what information I can about it from comments/vids including the one I posted above^) is that it *does* seem like it includes things I would've actually liked such as: Jane Foster becoming Mighty Thor, Christian Bale doing what from all accounts sounds lie his damnedest to make Gorr a memorable villain, the return of Sif. However, there's just too much I HATE: Thor as a walking punchline, Waititi's brand of so-called 'humour' (of which there is apparently TOO much. I couldn't even stand what there was of it in the third film), Waititi loving the sound of his own voice and inserting himself into as much of the movie as possible (not even having the decency to stay dead when it seems his character has carked it), KIDS WITH POWERS (which I saw in the 'Honest Trailer' and, really, nothing makes me roll my eyes more) Jane being offed, Darcy barely featuring and, worst of all, SIF being utterly wasted (and her losing a body part being made light of). Ad all this to having heard Waititi trashing 'Extended Editions' of movies when probably all the stuff he cut out would've been the things I'd want to see and all the stuff he kept I *don't*. It's like he made a movie that's the antithesis of everything I want in a film. For these^ reasons (and many more), this movie can...
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