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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 28, 2021 22:01:00 GMT 1
I was on the MCU's Bleeding Edge last night and they spoiled the RT score for Eternals. lol! Had a great time with AQUA EDGE! and the rest of the panel. I'm disappointed that the film is not connecting with the fandom, but certainly not surprised. It seems like Eternals is just as difficult to get into on film as it is in the comic books. Still spoiler free, and it's a day-by-day struggle… Pray for me!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2021 0:11:26 GMT 1
There are still at least 150 more reviews to go but it doesnt look good
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 29, 2021 0:41:13 GMT 1
There are still at least 150 more reviews to go but it doesnt look good Ah, then I think a rotten final score is a given at this point… It's a challenging property with no stand-out characters and a lot of esoteric ideas. Glad they swung for the fences on this, but Eternals, sight unseen, proves there is an upper limit ho how much obscurity critics will tolerate from this genre. Critics are constantly dinging Marvel for staying on brand, and when they finally try something different, they're like, "who moved my cheese?" It may well be that the movie is a turkey. We'll know for sure soon enough.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 29, 2021 21:40:24 GMT 1
There are still at least 150 more reviews to go but it doesnt look good Ah, then I think a rotten final score is a given at this point… It's a challenging property with no stand-out characters and a lot of esoteric ideas. Glad they swung for the fences on this, but Eternals, sight unseen, proves there is an upper limit ho how much obscurity critics will tolerate from this genre. Critics are constantly dinging Marvel for staying on brand, and when they finally try something different, they're like, "who moved my cheese?" It may well be that the movie is a turkey. We'll know for sure soon enough. Yeah I’m not sure yet that it’s “being obscure” or “just not being all that good”. I was afraid to say anything before, but TBH the trailers left me wondering if they had anything special going on. They just seemed tame.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 29, 2021 21:44:53 GMT 1
61% at 111 reviews.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Oct 29, 2021 22:27:23 GMT 1
I was on the MCU's Bleeding Edge last night and they spoiled the RT score for Eternals. lol! Had a great time with AQUA EDGE! and the rest of the panel. I'm disappointed that the film is not connecting with the fandom, but certainly not surprised. It seems like Eternals is just as difficult to get into on film as it is in the comic books. Still spoiler free, and it's a day-by-day struggle… Pray for me! The fandom hasn't seen it yet.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 30, 2021 18:14:17 GMT 1
60% after 120 reviews...
Its on the verge of becoming rotten.
The streak looks to be over. Movie 26 is the end.
And its the movie I thought would be a critical darling.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 31, 2021 6:32:22 GMT 1
Ah, then I think a rotten final score is a given at this point… It's a challenging property with no stand-out characters and a lot of esoteric ideas. Glad they swung for the fences on this, but Eternals, sight unseen, proves there is an upper limit ho how much obscurity critics will tolerate from this genre. Critics are constantly dinging Marvel for staying on brand, and when they finally try something different, they're like, "who moved my cheese?" It may well be that the movie is a turkey. We'll know for sure soon enough. Yeah I’m not sure yet that it’s “being obscure” or “just not being all that good”. I was afraid to say anything before, but TBH the trailers left me wondering if they had anything special going on. They just seemed tame. Was it the Eternals who seemed lame, or the film? The film and the property are two different things. My informed opinion is that the Eternals - as an IP - is not lame. They might be undercooked as far as the traditional superhero paradigm is concerned, but they're a wildly imaginative creation from from a virtuoso of the medium. The world of the Eternals is arguably better suited to the novel and not the comic book or motion picture mediums. There has always been something intriguing about the Eternals. Creators can't seem to stop themselves from revisiting the property every six or seven years - always looking to put their stamp on one of the master's most ambitious ideas. Ironically, Eternals are just as everlasting as Kirby intended them to be. No one has been able to let them go since their first series ended prematurely with dangling plot threads. This movie might be bad, but the Eternals themselves are woven into the fabric of the Marvel cosmology at the highest level. Without them, we have no sociopathic purple-people-eater to sate our need for endless torrents of action and violence. The current critical and fan reaction is prophecy. Since the beginning, the Eternals have done two things exceptionally well. They never die, and they never win.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 31, 2021 12:15:33 GMT 1
Yeah I’m not sure yet that it’s “being obscure” or “just not being all that good”. I was afraid to say anything before, but TBH the trailers left me wondering if they had anything special going on. They just seemed tame. Was it the Eternals who seemed lame, or the film? The film and the property are two different things. My informed opinion is that the Eternals - as an IP - is not lame. They might be undercooked as far as the traditional superhero paradigm is concerned, but they're a wildly imaginative creation from from a virtuoso of the medium. The world of the Eternals is arguably better suited to the novel and not the comic book or motion picture mediums. There has always been something intriguing about the Eternals. Creators can't seem to stop themselves from revisiting the property every six or seven years - always looking to put their stamp on one of the master's most ambitious ideas. Ironically, Eternals are just as everlasting as Kirby intended them to be. No one has been able to let them go since their first series ended prematurely with dangling plot threads. This movie might be bad, but the Eternals themselves are woven into the fabric of the Marvel cosmology at the highest level. Without them, we have no sociopathic purple-people-eater to sate our need for endless torrents of action and violence. The current critical and fan reaction is prophecy. Since the beginning, the Eternals have done two things exceptionally well. They never die, and they never win. I meant the film. My base thought was “it seemed like they didn’t have much to show”. But I could be way wrong, it’s just that now that these reviews are rolling in, I’m growing suspicious.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2021 14:49:12 GMT 1
Was it the Eternals who seemed lame, or the film? The film and the property are two different things. My informed opinion is that the Eternals - as an IP - is not lame. They might be undercooked as far as the traditional superhero paradigm is concerned, but they're a wildly imaginative creation from from a virtuoso of the medium. The world of the Eternals is arguably better suited to the novel and not the comic book or motion picture mediums. There has always been something intriguing about the Eternals. Creators can't seem to stop themselves from revisiting the property every six or seven years - always looking to put their stamp on one of the master's most ambitious ideas. Ironically, Eternals are just as everlasting as Kirby intended them to be. No one has been able to let them go since their first series ended prematurely with dangling plot threads. This movie might be bad, but the Eternals themselves are woven into the fabric of the Marvel cosmology at the highest level. Without them, we have no sociopathic purple-people-eater to sate our need for endless torrents of action and violence. The current critical and fan reaction is prophecy. Since the beginning, the Eternals have done two things exceptionally well. They never die, and they never win. I meant the film. My base thought was “it seemed like they didn’t have much to show”. But I could be way wrong, it’s just that now that these reviews are rolling in, I’m growing suspicious. Without reading each review to see if negative critics think it stinks on ice or just not as good as the previous movies, you don’t got much. Even so, the majority of critics have recommend it. I’m not sure why any movie must score in 90s to be considered worthy for a Marvel fan’s eyes. The hardcore fanbase has alway let somebody’s subjective opinion mean more than it does. When Hitchcock made Vertigo, Psycho, and The Birds, he got bad reviews for them. So…. Fuck the RT, go see it, then let your heart write your review. This is not competition that is going to be won or lost.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2021 19:08:28 GMT 1
Officially Rotten. I just noticed that Chloe Zhao not only directed, but she wrote the screenplay too. I guarantee you that’s why this movie went wrong. Exact same thing that happened to WW84. Most directors are not good writers. This was Feige’s fatal mistake.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 1:00:09 GMT 1
Officially Rotten. I just noticed that Chloe Zhao not only directed, but she wrote the screenplay too. I guarantee you that’s why this movie went wrong. Exact same thing that happened to WW84. Most directors are not good writers. This was Feige’s fatal mistake. Still 59%. More critics recommend the film than don’t. Out of 139 reviewers, 82 are fresh and 57 are rotten. Some rough edges, but we should cherish a glossy blockbuster that has something to say. Full Review | Original Score: 4/5 Bill Goodykoontz Arizona Republic TOP CRITIC Nov 1, 2021 "Eternals" isn't a bad movie. It's just not a particularly satisfying one, its scale proving untamable, even for Zhao. Full Review | Original Score: 3/5 Barry Hertz Globe and Mail TOP CRITIC Nov 1, 2021 Zhao is a baffling choice: a filmmaker who is ill-equipped and out of her element, with her discomfort visible across nearly every frame of the film. Full Review Nell Minow Movie Mom TOP CRITIC Nov 1, 2021 I'm sorry to tell you this movie is a mess. Full Review | Original Score: B- Glen Weldon NPR TOP CRITIC Oct 30, 2021 The film pushes back against the usual complaints offered up by those who harbor a performative disdain for Marvel's cinematic output. Full Review Nina Li Coomes Chicago Reader TOP CRITIC Oct 29, 2021 It's the ambiguity, the attention to a person's capacity for contradiction and change, that sets Zhao's MCU debut apart... Full Review Peter Travers ABC News TOP CRITIC Oct 29, 2021 A Marvel epic that values personal connections over spectacle? Sorry adrenaline junkies, but that's what Oscar-winning, indie director Chloe Zhao brings to her first blockbuster. The result is uneven, but memorably inclusive and unique. Full Review Mick LaSalle San Francisco Chronicle TOP CRITIC Oct 28, 2021 It takes a special kind of movie anti-magic to make an entire audience indifferent to the potential destruction of the planet and the elimination of all life and Earth. "Eternals" manages it. Full Review | Original Score: 1/4 Dana Stevens Slate TOP CRITIC Oct 28, 2021 Zhao, a director whose previous three films have all centered on the everyday lives of working-class rural outsiders, seems ill-suited to a movie of this scale and frankly uninterested in the fight scenes. Full Review Moira MacDonald Seattle Times TOP CRITIC Oct 27, 2021 It's a different kind of superhero movie; not to everyone's taste, but made for us all. Full Review | Original Score: 3/4 K. Austin Collins Rolling Stone TOP CRITIC Oct 27, 2021 Eternals is so busy showing off what it can do, where it can go, that it bypasses and overlooks what it really has to offer. There are real dilemmas, real battles of interest buried beneath the soft-pedaled, naturally-lit, cozy surfaces of this movie. Full Review A.A. Dowd AV Club TOP CRITIC Oct 27, 2021 Despite the depth of the ensemble (and the acting talents assembled to bring it to life), these Eternals really only come in three varieties: brooding, quippy, and both. Full Review | Original Score: C+ Jake Cole Slant Magazine TOP CRITIC Oct 26, 2021 At once bloated and rushed, Eternals suffers from frequent lurches in tempo that dispel its occasional moments of tranquil thoughtfulness. Full Review | Original Score: 2/4 Leah Greenblatt Entertainment Weekly TOP CRITIC Oct 26, 2021 Zhao's imprint is... hard to miss in the movie's steady thrum of melancholy and its deeper, odder character arcs. Full Review | Original Score: B Matt Singer ScreenCrush TOP CRITIC Oct 26, 2021 The things that made Chloe Zhao's indie movies special didn't translate to massive blockbuster filmmaking. Full Review | Original Score: 4/10 Johnny Oleksinski New York Post TOP CRITIC Oct 26, 2021 Seriously, what a snooze. Fresh off of winning the Best Director Oscar for "Nomadland," Chloé Zhao has upchucked one of the MCU's worst movies in ages. Full Review | Original Score: 1/4 Shirley Li The Atlantic TOP CRITIC Oct 25, 2021 The Eternals experience life on Earth across thousands of years, and with the help of a strong ensemble cast, Zhao tracks their shared awe and despair as observers of history. Full Review Perri Nemiroff Perri Nemiroff (YouTube) TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 The weight of complicated exposition weakens the energy of Eternals a little too often. It's at its best when the focus is on the Eternals recreating their family -- the humor of it and the passion when they fight for each other and the things they love. Full Review | Original Score: 2.5/5 Nicholas Barber BBC.com TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 Eternals may not be the worst of Marvel's movies, but it's undoubtedly the most disappointing. Full Review | Original Score: 3/5 Robbie Collin Daily Telegraph (UK) TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 It's constantly engaged in a kind of grit-toothed authenticity theatre, going out of its way to show you it's doing all the things proper cinema does, even though none of them bring any discernible benefit whatsoever to the film at hand. Full Review | Original Score: 2/5 Justin Chang Los Angeles Times TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 You walk out in the depressing realization that you've just seen one of the more interesting movies Marvel will ever make, and hopefully the least interesting one Chloé Zhao will ever make. Full Review Oliver Jones Observer TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 This is a film that asks on a grand scale questions we grapple with every day. How do we navigate and understand difference? Why do we value humanity so much when humans often do not seem to value each other? Full Review | Original Score: 3.5/4 Charlotte O'Sullivan London Evening Standard TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 With characters and concepts this strong, Zhao's quite right to take her time. Full Review | Original Score: 4/5 Steve Rose Guardian TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 It's not exactly boring - there's always something new to behold - but nor it is particularly exciting, and it lacks the breezy wit of Marvel's best movies. Full Review | Original Score: 2/5 Esther Zuckerman Thrillist TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 While not without messiness and over-plotting that bogs down and overcomplicates the narrative, Eternals succeeds as a vast and unrepentantly serious bit of world building with a moral quandary at its center. Full Review David Rooney Hollywood Reporter TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 The depth of feeling helps counter the choppy storytelling in this new tangent in the MCU narrative. Full Review Brian Lowry CNN.com TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 "Eternals" certainly doesn't lack for ambition, but for now, Marvel -- emboldened by its success -- has reached for the stars without quite getting there. Full Review Brian Truitt USA Today TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 Utilizing Zhao's penchant for naturalistic environments, "Eternals" looks unlike any other Marvel movie and isperhapsthe most welcoming for MCU neophytes in forever. Full Review | Original Score: 2.5/4 David Ehrlich indieWire TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 Can't these movies do anything else? Is it too much to ask the most dominant kind of cinema on the planet to shake things up and challenge itself in a more significant way? Full Review | Original Score: C+ Owen Gleiberman Variety TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 [Zhao is] a master craftswoman, and "Eternals," while too long (157 minutes? really?), is a squarely fun and gratifying watch. Full Review Linda Marric The Jewish Chronicle TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 A mishmash of well-meaning, yet jarringly verbose and bafflingly incoherent nonsense which is only just about saved by some half decent performances. Full Review | Original Score: 3/5 Robert Abele TheWrap TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 After so many Marvel movies that give lip service to the thornier ramifications of its hero narratives, there's an earnestness to the operatic stakes in "Eternals" that somehow helps fuse what's physically spectacular and philosophical about it. Full Review John Nugent Empire Magazine TOP CRITIC Oct 24, 2021 Director Chlo Zhao's entry into the superhero world is assured, ambitious and told on a dizzyingly cosmic scale- but even it can't escape the clichs of superhero storytelling. Full Review | Original Score: 3/5
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Nov 2, 2021 2:14:08 GMT 1
Was not expecting Eternals being the first MCU film that reached Rotten.
What a wild time.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2021 5:37:00 GMT 1
Hey Kevin, welcome to the club.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 3, 2021 17:37:48 GMT 1
Hey Kevin, welcome to the club. lolol. I find this tip kind of funny actually. I wasn’t rooting for it if course, but it was probably going to happen, and I wouldn’t have picked this film, but I contend it’s probably the best one for it to have happened to. It likely wasn’t going to be a flagship anyway, they can take individual characters they do like elsewhere. Basically it’s a blank. I’m going to go enjoy it soon and carry on.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 3, 2021 18:12:11 GMT 1
54% after 168 reviews.
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 4, 2021 1:41:33 GMT 1
The fans consent anxiety over box office and Rotten Tomatoes scores is a big, big turn off for me. It ruins the fun of just being fans together. Success or failure of a film or series, even an anticipated unknown, seems to be taken personally to the point of shaming directors/actors for failing their projects with the zeal of beating a dead horse.
This isn’t just for Marvel, but whole comic book movie genre spectrum. The genre itself has become a team sport with fans opposing each other without the bonhomie of real sports fans.
Right now we are choking on superhero movies/TV shows. Not all of them can be jewels and there just so many plot lines and characters types.
I say, forget the critics, forget the Debbie Downers and trolls. If you no longer enjoy MCU or DC without your life falling apart if one picture fails, maybe it’s time to move on something more healthy for you.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2021 11:28:45 GMT 1
The fans consent anxiety over box office and Rotten Tomatoes scores is a big, big turn off for me. It ruins the fun of just being fans together. Success or failure of a film or series, even an anticipated unknown, seems to be taken personally to the point of shaming directors/actors for failing their projects with the zeal of beating a dead horse. This isn’t just for Marvel, but whole comic book movie genre spectrum. The genre itself has become a team sport with fans opposing each other without the bonhomie of real sports fans. Right now we are choking on superhero movies/TV shows. Not all of them can be jewels and there just so many plot lines and characters types. I say, forget the critics, forget the Debbie Downers and trolls. If you no longer enjoy MCU or DC without your life falling apart if one picture fails, maybe it’s time to move on something more healthy for you. Eh, you get people like that in all fandoms but yeah like what you like. It's all subjective at the end of the day. No one is right or wrong
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 4, 2021 15:32:30 GMT 1
It's amazing how many people that haven't even seen the movie allow these "critics" to tell them what to think.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 5, 2021 18:02:26 GMT 1
50% after 246 reviews
With the risk of turning into a DC-Fan... The audience acore is 86%
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 14, 2021 14:38:10 GMT 1
Spider-man No Way Home
100% after 46 reviews
Is this gonna be another Black Panther where the first rotten reviewer will get hunted down and cancelled?
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 14, 2021 16:25:17 GMT 1
Some reviews:
ScreenRant (3.5/5): Spider-Man: No Way Home Review - Spidey Finally Gets A Good Threequel; No Way Home is Spider-Man’s most intriguing & fun story yet. Though the multiverse looms large, the film's thoughtful in its focus on Peter's journey.
Mama's Geeky (5/5): Spider-Man: No Way Home did not meet my expectations, it exceeded them. This film is massive, and the best of the franchise.
IGN (8/10): Spider-Man: No Way Home bounces from hilarious to hurt with ease as both the darkest and funniest MCU Spider-Man entry to date.
Perri Nemiroff: The first half of Spider-Man: No Way Home is a lil messy, but that second half SOARS. In that part of the movie, the multiverse of it all FAR exceeded my expectations -- fun, exhilarating, often very emotional and hugely satisfying material.
Collider (B): 'Spider-Man: No Way Home' Review - Tom Holland Shines In a Too-Crowded MCU Multiverse
CinemaBlend (5/5): Spider-Man: No Way Home Review: Amazing, Spectacular, Superior; Tom Holland's latest solo Spider-Man adventure is his best yet.
Deadline: ‘Spider-Man: No Way Home’ Review: The Most Exciting, Surprising and Emotional Spidey of Them All
TheIlluminerdi: Spider-Man: No Way Home is an amazing Spider-Man film full of treats for fans.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 14, 2021 16:26:07 GMT 1
Variety Review is very spoilerish, so if you don't want to read any, I'd avoid that Review.
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 14, 2021 21:27:57 GMT 1
99% after 70 reviews
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 15, 2021 18:51:51 GMT 1
95% with 116 reviews
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 15, 2021 20:14:40 GMT 1
Certified Fresh.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 16, 2021 16:35:09 GMT 1
Still 95% with 148 reviews
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 17, 2021 4:39:32 GMT 1
Still 95% with 148 reviews Thats significant. It’s in the top tier of all CBMs at this point. That’s frankly amazing. I think it’s time to say that Jon Watts is amongst the best of MCU directors. He’s nailed a Spiderman reboot trilogy, apparently saving the best for last, has FF coming,,, he’s at the top tier. He’s made the inner circle of the Gunn’s and the Russo’s, etc.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 17, 2021 13:16:58 GMT 1
Still 95% with 148 reviews And still 95% with 207!
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 17, 2021 16:19:04 GMT 1
94% after 214 reviews.
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