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Post by Merv on Jul 14, 2023 19:11:58 GMT 1
I can understand that. Fury is the Batman of the MCU, he should be one step ahead of the Skrulls, but he's constantly behind the eight ball in this series. I've been waiting for his big chess move, but it's all checkers here. This portrayal reads like another deconstruction of a fan-favorite character, which I'm not entirely opposed to, but I can see how fans like yourself could find it too jarring. Being this far into Nick's domestic life is weird. The last thing I wanted to watch him do was cook breakfast. He could be like Roger Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon and just getting too old for this shit. Even in MCU terms it's 5 years sorta past whatever year it was in Endgame. Actually this is where I get confused. In theory Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. Fury as a character has gotta be pushing late 60's early 70's. It's disappointing in a way cause I agree, you half-expect Fury to drop down like a reverse virus and fix everything, like Batman, but for a man his age he's not doing so bad. For a man his age being the operative term. Even if he didn't age during the snap we're looking at 11 years since the battle of New York, 16 if you count the snap. He's not exactly a house cat who shouldn't be out but he did have a desk job for a lot of years I think. He's a badass in spurts only, at least physically.
It is weird being in his domestic space. That's probably the thing I found most jarring, and I'm sure he's a dope cook but I don't wanna watch him cook breakfast either. Agreed with the chess not checkers part too. It either means his strategic skills are getting rusty or he's just being plum outplayed by superior opponents.
I suppose my point is it makes a depressing amount of sense that he's always playing catch-up hockey lately. It's too unsurprising under the circumstances, plus he doesn't have SHIELD anymore. At this moment I'm on the fence about him making it out of this series alive.
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 14, 2023 19:29:09 GMT 1
He could be like Roger Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon and just getting too old for this shit. Even in MCU terms it's 5 years sorta past whatever year it was in Endgame. Actually this is where I get confused. In theory Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. Fury as a character has gotta be pushing late 60's early 70's. It's disappointing in a way cause I agree, you half-expect Fury to drop down like a reverse virus and fix everything, like Batman, but for a man his age he's not doing so bad. For a man his age being the operative term. Even if he didn't age during the snap we're looking at 11 years since the battle of New York, 16 if you count the snap. He's not exactly a house cat who shouldn't be out but he did have a desk job for a lot of years I think. He's a badass in spurts only, at least physically.
It is weird being in his domestic space. That's probably the thing I found most jarring, and I'm sure he's a dope cook but I don't wanna watch him cook breakfast either. Agreed with the chess not checkers part too. It either means his strategic skills are getting rusty or he's just being plum outplayed by superior opponents.
I suppose my point is it makes a depressing amount of sense that he's always playing catch-up hockey lately. It's too unsurprising under the circumstances, plus he doesn't have SHIELD anymore. At this moment I'm on the fence about him making it out of this series alive.
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory. That would have been cool. I didn't mind when they killed her for dramatic punch but I do agree, she would have been the next logical leader of SHIELD and been awesome at it.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2023 19:39:16 GMT 1
I can understand that. Fury is the Batman of the MCU, he should be one step ahead of the Skrulls, but he's constantly behind the eight ball in this series. I've been waiting for his big chess move, but it's all checkers here. This portrayal reads like another deconstruction of a fan-favorite character, which I'm not entirely opposed to, but I can see how fans like yourself could find it too jarring. Being this far into Nick's domestic life is weird. The last thing I wanted to watch him do was cook breakfast. He could be like Roger Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon and just getting too old for this shit. Even in MCU terms it's 5 years sorta past whatever year it was in Endgame. Actually this is where I get confused. In theory Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. Fury as a character has gotta be pushing late 60's early 70's. It's disappointing in a way cause I agree, you half-expect Fury to drop down like a reverse virus and fix everything, like Batman, but for a man his age he's not doing so bad. For a man his age being the operative term. Even if he didn't age during the snap we're looking at 11 years since the battle of New York, 16 if you count the snap. He's not exactly a house cat who shouldn't be out but he did have a desk job for a lot of years I think. He's a badass in spurts only, at least physically.
It is weird being in his domestic space. That's probably the thing I found most jarring, and I'm sure he's a dope cook but I don't wanna watch him cook breakfast either. Agreed with the chess not checkers part too. It either means his strategic skills are getting rusty or he's just being plum outplayed by superior opponents.
I suppose my point is it makes a depressing amount of sense that he's always playing catch-up hockey lately. It's too unsurprising under the circumstances, plus he doesn't have SHIELD anymore. At this moment I'm on the fence about him making it out of this series alive.
The writer's approach to portraying Nick Fury in Secret Invasion is to challenge the notion that he is an infallible, unstoppable spymaster. There's a trend among fans to idealize their favorite characters, perceiving them as an embodiment of distinct traits rather than nuanced, complex beings. Fans typically recoil at seeing their beloved characters showing signs of aging or fallibility. However, I find this approach somewhat intriguing. Still, I can't help but miss the overconfident, always-in-control Nick Fury we've known for so long. I hate to be a backseat showrunner, but the series could have taken an interesting turn by depicting Fury's efforts to establish S.W.O.R.D. as the extraterrestrial extension of S.H.I.E.L.D. It would have been easy to put Fury in a compromising position by having him broker a deal with the Kree to assist in thwarting Gravik's invasion. The focus on Fury's personal life does align with the deconstructionist approach, but I concur that too much emphasis on this aspect can be a bit jarring. As for Fury's age and physical condition, I feel that this is a realistic portrayal. Even the most formidable heroes cannot entirely evade the effects of aging. Yet, for a man of his age, he's holding up rather well. The domestic scenes with Fury did feel out of place, and while I'm sure he's an excellent cook, those are not the moments we're most interested in seeing. The fact that he appears to be playing a constant game of catch-up rather than being the mastermind we know him to be is certainly a departure from the norm. But given the circumstances, it's an unsurprising development.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 14, 2023 19:45:33 GMT 1
Can y'all stop pushing that woke agenda!!! I mean another woman in a position of power other than the kitchen where she is supposed to rule... Come on.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2023 23:02:57 GMT 1
He could be like Roger Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon and just getting too old for this shit. Even in MCU terms it's 5 years sorta past whatever year it was in Endgame. Actually this is where I get confused. In theory Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. Fury as a character has gotta be pushing late 60's early 70's. It's disappointing in a way cause I agree, you half-expect Fury to drop down like a reverse virus and fix everything, like Batman, but for a man his age he's not doing so bad. For a man his age being the operative term. Even if he didn't age during the snap we're looking at 11 years since the battle of New York, 16 if you count the snap. He's not exactly a house cat who shouldn't be out but he did have a desk job for a lot of years I think. He's a badass in spurts only, at least physically.
It is weird being in his domestic space. That's probably the thing I found most jarring, and I'm sure he's a dope cook but I don't wanna watch him cook breakfast either. Agreed with the chess not checkers part too. It either means his strategic skills are getting rusty or he's just being plum outplayed by superior opponents. I suppose my point is it makes a depressing amount of sense that he's always playing catch-up hockey lately. It's too unsurprising under the circumstances, plus he doesn't have SHIELD anymore. At this moment I'm on the fence about him making it out of this series alive.
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory. My only mildly unrealistic fan expectation for this show is that Sharon Carter would show up and turn out to be a Skrull… Now that it's not likely to happen, that makes this show that much more disappointing. And it also makes her heel turn in Falcon and The Winter Soldier nearly pointless in its lack of resolution. It's like leaving the iron on and walking out of the room.
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Post by Merv on Jul 14, 2023 23:14:03 GMT 1
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory. My only mildly unrealistic fan expectation for this show is that Sharon Carter would show up and turn out to be a Skrull… Now that it's not likely to happen, that makes this show that much more disappointing. And it also makes her heel turn in Falcon and The Winter Soldier nearly pointless in its lack of resolution. It's like leaving the iron on and walking out of the room. And not to get too deep on it but the lack of resolution has felt like an issue post-Endgame, but especially with the shows. It feels like the shows are starting all these little sparks of interest...something like Sharon Carters heel turn and what that means for example...but then no other project breathes life into it to fan the flames of interest and it just fizzles out. 2 years might not seem like a long time but its 6-1/2 tv shows and 9 movies later in that universe. She's apparently not going to be in Cap 4 so who will even remember or care about this when and if they finally address it?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 14, 2023 23:19:17 GMT 1
My only mildly unrealistic fan expectation for this show is that Sharon Carter would show up and turn out to be a Skrull… Now that it's not likely to happen, that makes this show that much more disappointing. And it also makes her heel turn in Falcon and The Winter Soldier nearly pointless in its lack of resolution. It's like leaving the iron on and walking out of the room. And not to get too deep on it but the lack of resolution has felt like an issue post-Endgame, but especially with the shows. It feels like the shows are starting all these little sparks of interest...something like Sharon Carters heel turn and what that means for example...but then no other project breathes life into it to fan the flames of interest and it just fizzles out. 2 years might not seem like a long time but its 6-1/2 tv shows and 9 movies later in that universe. She's apparently not going to be in Cap 4 so who will even remember or care about this when and if they finally address it? And that, my fellow Champions, is how constructive criticism and analysis is done. A very well-reasoned and searching critique… You're absolutely right. It's a huge flaw with the shows and the overall trajectory of the shared universe. Unless they do something big with Carter, there's no point to this and a lot of other dangles. It's so damn lazy and easily avoidable.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 15, 2023 11:38:15 GMT 1
My only mildly unrealistic fan expectation for this show is that Sharon Carter would show up and turn out to be a Skrull… Now that it's not likely to happen, that makes this show that much more disappointing. And it also makes her heel turn in Falcon and The Winter Soldier nearly pointless in its lack of resolution. It's like leaving the iron on and walking out of the room. And not to get too deep on it but the lack of resolution has felt like an issue post-Endgame, but especially with the shows. It feels like the shows are starting all these little sparks of interest...something like Sharon Carters heel turn and what that means for example...but then no other project breathes life into it to fan the flames of interest and it just fizzles out. 2 years might not seem like a long time but its 6-1/2 tv shows and 9 movies later in that universe. She's apparently not going to be in Cap 4 so who will even remember or care about this when and if they finally address it? Sharon will probably end up like Adam Warlock. I mean I liked him but it was kind of a wet fart instead of a loud bang
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 15, 2023 11:55:24 GMT 1
He could be like Roger Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon and just getting too old for this shit. Even in MCU terms it's 5 years sorta past whatever year it was in Endgame. Actually this is where I get confused. In theory Endgame takes place 5 years after Infinity War. Fury as a character has gotta be pushing late 60's early 70's. It's disappointing in a way cause I agree, you half-expect Fury to drop down like a reverse virus and fix everything, like Batman, but for a man his age he's not doing so bad. For a man his age being the operative term. Even if he didn't age during the snap we're looking at 11 years since the battle of New York, 16 if you count the snap. He's not exactly a house cat who shouldn't be out but he did have a desk job for a lot of years I think. He's a badass in spurts only, at least physically.
It is weird being in his domestic space. That's probably the thing I found most jarring, and I'm sure he's a dope cook but I don't wanna watch him cook breakfast either. Agreed with the chess not checkers part too. It either means his strategic skills are getting rusty or he's just being plum outplayed by superior opponents.
I suppose my point is it makes a depressing amount of sense that he's always playing catch-up hockey lately. It's too unsurprising under the circumstances, plus he doesn't have SHIELD anymore. At this moment I'm on the fence about him making it out of this series alive.
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory. Merv, Lord Death Man, Grandmaster, AQUA CAT!, ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([, LokisMom, Could very well be. Also I guess we'll have the funeral for Hill at the end then, that's if it's not revealed she is actually a skrull later in some way? I think the showrunner doesnt know how to make the skrulls look formidable without putting Fury down. Imo Fury is acting like a novice spy..the only time he has done legit stuff seems like when he is planting listening devices well I guess...which anyone can do..oh and taking out a security guy (I enjoyed this but looking at the whole thing it has become so small now)..yipee? You take a look at Tony, Cap and Thor v Thanos, they were all portrayed well and you didnt need to pull anyone down to make the other look better. Then you look at Fury v Skrulls v domestic situation v old age lol What the fuck is going on here? I guess Fury could be playing the long game but I duno..still couldve been carried out better Tin foil hat time. Could the super skrull daughter be the next Maria Hill or even the leader of Shield/Sword?
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 16, 2023 4:45:22 GMT 1
Which sucks even more that they killed off Maria Hill because she could’ve been the logical choice to fill his shoes in regards to Shield. Or….we’re going into HAMMER territory. Merv , Lord Death Man , Grandmaster , AQUA CAT! , ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ , LokisMom , Could very well be. Also I guess we'll have the funeral for Hill at the end then, that's if it's not revealed she is actually a skrull later in some way? I think the showrunner doesnt know how to make the skrulls look formidable without putting Fury down. Imo Fury is acting like a novice spy..the only time he has done legit stuff seems like when he is planting listening devices well I guess...which anyone can do..oh and taking out a security guy (I enjoyed this but looking at the whole thing it has become so small now)..yipee? You take a look at Tony, Cap and Thor v Thanos, they were all portrayed well and you didnt need to pull anyone down to make the other look better. Then you look at Fury v Skrulls v domestic situation v old age lol What the fuck is going on here? I guess Fury could be playing the long game but I duno..still couldve been carried out better Tin foil hat time. Could the super skrull daughter be the next Maria Hill or even the leader of Shield/Sword? The Batman comparison from earlier is apt. Fury's a boss but he also relies on the reputation for being Nick Fury. Like Batman, it's a part of his mystique that he's always up to something, pulling strings, investigating, etc. I think he's just rusty right now. He took a big hit and can't quite get into the saddle again. He died, and unlike some people who got turned to dust in their sleep he saw himself die. They showed at least one clip of him remembering himself turning to dust, so I don't think it's too far-fetched to say it fucked him up.
As long as my tin foil hat can be a tin foil chef's hat, I think it could be revealed Gravik killed G'iah's mother because she was a double agent, thereby making her a traitor to the cause. Although at this moment I echo the above criticism, that G'iah will be built up to something interesting and shelved. She doesn't have a long-term plan feel to her, although I hope I'm wrong cause I like her.
I did think it was interesting the basis for the Super Skrull regeneration is the Extremis thing from Iron Man 3.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 16, 2023 9:45:09 GMT 1
Merv , Lord Death Man , Grandmaster , AQUA CAT! , ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ , LokisMom , Could very well be. Also I guess we'll have the funeral for Hill at the end then, that's if it's not revealed she is actually a skrull later in some way? I think the showrunner doesnt know how to make the skrulls look formidable without putting Fury down. Imo Fury is acting like a novice spy..the only time he has done legit stuff seems like when he is planting listening devices well I guess...which anyone can do..oh and taking out a security guy (I enjoyed this but looking at the whole thing it has become so small now)..yipee? You take a look at Tony, Cap and Thor v Thanos, they were all portrayed well and you didnt need to pull anyone down to make the other look better. Then you look at Fury v Skrulls v domestic situation v old age lol What the fuck is going on here? I guess Fury could be playing the long game but I duno..still couldve been carried out better Tin foil hat time. Could the super skrull daughter be the next Maria Hill or even the leader of Shield/Sword? The Batman comparison from earlier is apt. Fury's a boss but he also relies on the reputation for being Nick Fury. Like Batman, it's a part of his mystique that he's always up to something, pulling strings, investigating, etc. I think he's just rusty right now. He took a big hit and can't quite get into the saddle again. He died, and unlike some people who got turned to dust in their sleep he saw himself die. They showed at least one clip of him remembering himself turning to dust, so I don't think it's too far-fetched to say it fucked him up.
As long as my tin foil hat can be a tin foil chef's hat, I think it could be revealed Gravik killed G'iah's mother because she was a double agent, thereby making her a traitor to the cause. Although at this moment I echo the above criticism, that G'iah will be built up to something interesting and shelved. She doesn't have a long-term plan feel to her, although I hope I'm wrong cause I like her.
I did think it was interesting the basis for the Super Skrull regeneration is the Extremis thing from Iron Man 3.
so what a sort of ptsd? With the snap? Doubtful. Also why visit this with Fury of all people? Theyve just made Fury lame in this so far. I believe there was a Fury movie in the works a few years back, Im pretty sure that wouldve been awesome back then. This right now, is just embarrassing
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 16, 2023 10:06:14 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 16, 2023 19:18:38 GMT 1
The Batman comparison from earlier is apt. Fury's a boss but he also relies on the reputation for being Nick Fury. Like Batman, it's a part of his mystique that he's always up to something, pulling strings, investigating, etc. I think he's just rusty right now. He took a big hit and can't quite get into the saddle again. He died, and unlike some people who got turned to dust in their sleep he saw himself die. They showed at least one clip of him remembering himself turning to dust, so I don't think it's too far-fetched to say it fucked him up.
As long as my tin foil hat can be a tin foil chef's hat, I think it could be revealed Gravik killed G'iah's mother because she was a double agent, thereby making her a traitor to the cause. Although at this moment I echo the above criticism, that G'iah will be built up to something interesting and shelved. She doesn't have a long-term plan feel to her, although I hope I'm wrong cause I like her.
I did think it was interesting the basis for the Super Skrull regeneration is the Extremis thing from Iron Man 3.
so what a sort of ptsd? With the snap? Doubtful. Also why visit this with Fury of all people? Theyve just made Fury lame in this so far. I believe there was a Fury movie in the works a few years back, Im pretty sure that wouldve been awesome back then. This right now, is just embarrassing Why Fury of all people? Beats me. Maybe his death shoved how helpless he could be to his face. I agree it's not your typical Nick Fury. I noticed Samuel L Jackson is a producer on the series so it might be his idea. Not sure I'd be into a Fury movie, though.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 17, 2023 0:32:00 GMT 1
I just listened to half of he Champions discussion - good talk so far. You guys really got to the essence of what is not working for the episode and for the series as a whole.
I did some sleuthing and the name of the Skrull who is impersonating Rhodes is Raava. She has a convoluted comic book history, but I'm wondering if she doubled Sharon Carter in Falcon and the Winter Soldier.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 17, 2023 3:54:39 GMT 1
so what a sort of ptsd? With the snap? Doubtful. Also why visit this with Fury of all people? Theyve just made Fury lame in this so far. I believe there was a Fury movie in the works a few years back, Im pretty sure that wouldve been awesome back then. This right now, is just embarrassing Why Fury of all people? Beats me. Maybe his death shoved how helpless he could be to his face. I agree it's not your typical Nick Fury. I noticed Samuel L Jackson is a producer on the series so it might be his idea. Not sure I'd be into a Fury movie, though. Upon watching a short video critiquing the show, I see what you mean now re post blip. Goes to show how invested im in this series lol Anyway, Ive made up my mind. Im done with this series for now. Too subpar for me. I mean it could be great the next 2eps but too little too late imo. If I hear it's awesome I may revisit it but Im not holding my breath lol Drops mic/
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 17, 2023 3:56:49 GMT 1
I just listened to half of he Campions discussion - good talk some far. You guys really got to the essence of what is not working for the episode and for the series as a whole. I did some sleuthing and the name of the Skrull who is impersonating Rhodes is Raava. She has a convoluted comic book history, but I'm wondering if she doubled Sharon Carter in Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Merv did bring up an interesting point with the use of the word defenestrate lol. Kind of a microcosm for this show. Trying to be intelligent but failing spectacularly and it comes off as pretentious
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 17, 2023 4:20:48 GMT 1
Why Fury of all people? Beats me. Maybe his death shoved how helpless he could be to his face. I agree it's not your typical Nick Fury. I noticed Samuel L Jackson is a producer on the series so it might be his idea. Not sure I'd be into a Fury movie, though. Upon watching a short video critiquing the show, I see what you mean now re post blip. Goes to show how invested im in this series lol Anyway, Ive made up my mind. Im done with this series for now. Too subpar for me. I mean it could be great the next 2eps but too little too late imo. If I hear it's awesome I may revisit it but Im not holding my breath lol Drops mic/ I know what you mean. I haven't watched an MCU show since Loki, and I defenestrated most of my expectations after Endgame.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jul 17, 2023 4:33:05 GMT 1
Upon watching a short video critiquing the show, I see what you mean now re post blip. Goes to show how invested im in this series lol Anyway, Ive made up my mind. Im done with this series for now. Too subpar for me. I mean it could be great the next 2eps but too little too late imo. If I hear it's awesome I may revisit it but Im not holding my breath lol Drops mic/ I know what you mean. I haven't watched an MCU show since Loki, and I defenestrated most of my expectations after Endgame.
Yeah Im a fanboy but even I have to draw the line somewhere lol. After She-Hulk.. Ive watched pretty much all the shows and specials (Halloween and Holiday) except for some of Miss Marvel
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 17, 2023 20:21:46 GMT 1
I know what you mean. I haven't watched an MCU show since Loki, and I defenestrated most of my expectations after Endgame.
Yeah Im a fanboy but even I have to draw the line somewhere lol. After She-Hulk.. Ive watched pretty much all the shows and specials (Halloween and Holiday) except for some of Miss Marvel I forgot about the holiday special completely! That I should watch. I kinda liked the Werewolf at Night special too, but the last MCU product I really swear by is Infinity War.
I don't really mind though. At this point keeping up to date is a social thing. In the current phase my least favourite movie is either Black Panther: Wakanda Forever or Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. I have a soft spot for Black Widow because it was set during phase 3 and is essentially a phase 3 movie released late.
Over the past few years I took a big swing into Star Trek. The new show Strange New Worlds is good but if often feels like it's hovering around dropping off. I'm going to start Star Trek: Enterprise soon because I've caught up on The Next Generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager so I might as well.
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Post by Merv on Jul 17, 2023 20:24:27 GMT 1
Yeah Im a fanboy but even I have to draw the line somewhere lol. After She-Hulk.. Ive watched pretty much all the shows and specials (Halloween and Holiday) except for some of Miss Marvel I forgot about the holiday special completely! That I should watch. I kinda liked the Werewolf at Night special too, but the last MCU product I really swear by is Infinity War.
I don't really mind though. At this point keeping up to date is a social thing. In the current phase my least favourite movie is either Black Panther: Wakanda Forever or Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. I have a soft spot for Black Widow because it was set during phase 3 and is essentially a phase 3 movie released late.
Over the past few years I took a big swing into Star Trek. The new show Strange New Worlds is good but if often feels like it's hovering around dropping off. I'm going to start Star Trek: Enterprise soon because I've caught up on The Next Generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager so I might as well.
GotG Vol 3 was fantastic. I don’t want that one to get lost in the sea of Meh the past few years.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 17, 2023 21:04:20 GMT 1
I forgot about the holiday special completely! That I should watch. I kinda liked the Werewolf at Night special too, but the last MCU product I really swear by is Infinity War.
I don't really mind though. At this point keeping up to date is a social thing. In the current phase my least favourite movie is either Black Panther: Wakanda Forever or Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. I have a soft spot for Black Widow because it was set during phase 3 and is essentially a phase 3 movie released late.
Over the past few years I took a big swing into Star Trek. The new show Strange New Worlds is good but if often feels like it's hovering around dropping off. I'm going to start Star Trek: Enterprise soon because I've caught up on The Next Generation, Deep Space 9 and Voyager so I might as well.
GotG Vol 3 was fantastic. I don’t want that one to get lost in the sea of Meh the past few years. That's the sole movie this phase that I haven't seen. My expectations are high though. I like the Guardians movies a lot.
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Post by Merv on Jul 17, 2023 21:12:37 GMT 1
GotG Vol 3 was fantastic. I don’t want that one to get lost in the sea of Meh the past few years. That's the sole movie this phase that I haven't seen. My expectations are high though. I like the Guardians movies a lot. I’d be surprised if you felt disappointed.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 18, 2023 7:36:55 GMT 1
That's the sole movie this phase that I haven't seen. My expectations are high though. I like the Guardians movies a lot. I’d be surprised if you felt disappointed. I am concerned I missed the boat to see it in theaters but I'm watching it the second it's available. The other two really are treats in the franchise.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 18, 2023 8:12:24 GMT 1
I’d be surprised if you felt disappointed. I am concerned I missed the boat to see it in theaters but I'm watching it the second it's available. The other two really are treats in the franchise. Its on Disney Plus on August 2nd.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jul 19, 2023 12:11:55 GMT 1
The pacing in this show is absolutely horrendous. I don't see the final episode being a satisfying conclusion to this story.
I'm still convinced it was a mistake making Secret Invasion into a 6 episode series.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 19, 2023 19:27:15 GMT 1
We have now reached Episode 5 of the six-part series, and, in my humble opinion, this show stands as the first definitive misfire of the Disney+ Marvel shows.
On the face of it, the conceptualization of 'Secret Invasion' promised an intriguing premise. Nick Fury, the ever-chronic schemer, and strategizer, at the heart of a Skrull invasion? It must have been a tantalizing prospect on the storyboard. However, the actual execution of the plot is a series of provocative but chatty conversations in kitchens, bunkers, and now a mausoleum.
In particular - the lackluster interpretation of the Super Skrull is heartbreaking. He who, in the comics, harnessed cosmic ether, flame, fluid, and rock has been reduced to an almost laughable mcguffin.
In terms of Episode 5, aside from Gravik's puzzling murder rampage against his compatriots and Olivia Coleman's delightfully prim and proper "murder mom," the episode was, to be frank, a little tedious.
Though I personally perceive this series as more of a missed opportunity rather than a blatant waste of source material, I am fully aware that there are legions of "Secret Invasion" stans who are having seizures right now.
Although I don't think this would have faired any better as a movie, I am glad Armor Wars got bumped up to cinematic feature.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 19, 2023 20:24:59 GMT 1
Yeah... This is going the way of the Moon Knight
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Post by Merv on Jul 19, 2023 22:35:23 GMT 1
We have now reached Episode 5 of the six-part series, and, in my humble opinion, this show stands as the first definitive misfire of the Disney+ Marvel shows. On the face of it, the conceptualization of 'Secret Invasion' promised an intriguing premise. Nick Fury, the ever-chronic schemer, and strategizer, at the heart of a Skrull invasion? It must have been a tantalizing prospect on the storyboard. However, the actual execution of the plot is a series of provocative but chatty conversations in kitchens, bunkers, and now a mausoleum. In particular - the lackluster interpretation of the Super Skrull is heartbreaking. He who, in the comics, harnessed cosmic ether, flame, fluid, and rock has been reduced to an almost laughable mcguffin. In terms of Episode 5, aside from Gravik's puzzling murder rampage against his compatriots and Olivia Coleman's delightfully prim and proper "murder mom," the episode was, to be frank, a little tedious. Though I personally perceive this series as more of a missed opportunity rather than a blatant waste of source material, I am fully aware that there are legions of "Secret Invasion" stans who are having seizures right now. Although I don't think this would have faired any better as a movie, I am glad Armor Wars got bumped up to cinematic feature. Sonya was great...everything else... Did Fury forget that the Skrulls wanted to kill the President? Isn't the whole reason he sat in front of the door with a gun to prevent the Skrulls from getting access to the President to finish the job? Regardless of how high his own wanted level was? Legit all they had to do was go in and kill the President after Fury left and it wouldve been blamed on the Russians like they originally planned. Did an A.I. write this show?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 19, 2023 23:12:13 GMT 1
We have now reached Episode 5 of the six-part series, and, in my humble opinion, this show stands as the first definitive misfire of the Disney+ Marvel shows. On the face of it, the conceptualization of 'Secret Invasion' promised an intriguing premise. Nick Fury, the ever-chronic schemer, and strategizer, at the heart of a Skrull invasion? It must have been a tantalizing prospect on the storyboard. However, the actual execution of the plot is a series of provocative but chatty conversations in kitchens, bunkers, and now a mausoleum. In particular - the lackluster interpretation of the Super Skrull is heartbreaking. He who, in the comics, harnessed cosmic ether, flame, fluid, and rock has been reduced to an almost laughable mcguffin. In terms of Episode 5, aside from Gravik's puzzling murder rampage against his compatriots and Olivia Coleman's delightfully prim and proper "murder mom," the episode was, to be frank, a little tedious. Though I personally perceive this series as more of a missed opportunity rather than a blatant waste of source material, I am fully aware that there are legions of "Secret Invasion" stans who are having seizures right now. Although I don't think this would have faired any better as a movie, I am glad Armor Wars got bumped up to cinematic feature. Sonya was great...everything else... Did Fury forget that the Skrulls wanted to kill the President? Isn't the whole reason he sat in front of the door with a gun to prevent the Skrulls from getting access to the President to finish the job? Regardless of how high his own wanted level was? Legit all they had to do was go in and kill the President after Fury left and it wouldve been blamed on the Russians like they originally planned. Did an A.I. write this show? Excellent points. I was also struck by the incredible sloppiness of Priscilla, just a few episodes back, needing to go to the most elaborate safe deposit in the western hemisphere to retrieve a single gun, only to find in this episode that she keeps knapsacks full of weapons in the house in an easy-to-access dresser draw. And I know this is petty, but it bothered the shit out of me that Fury keeps all of his accessories in multiple retina authentication-enabled crypts. The eye patch needed its own crypt draw? Massive eye-roll - pun intended. Sonya is my vote for the new Nick Fury. Aim for the head.
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Post by Merv on Jul 19, 2023 23:24:36 GMT 1
Sonya was great...everything else... Did Fury forget that the Skrulls wanted to kill the President? Isn't the whole reason he sat in front of the door with a gun to prevent the Skrulls from getting access to the President to finish the job? Regardless of how high his own wanted level was? Legit all they had to do was go in and kill the President after Fury left and it wouldve been blamed on the Russians like they originally planned. Did an A.I. write this show? Excellent points. I was also struck by the incredible sloppiness of Priscilla, just a few episodes back, needing to go to the most elaborate safe deposit in the western hemisphere to retrieve a single gun, only to find in this episode that she keeps knapsacks full of weapons in the house in an easy-to-access dresser draw. And I know this is petty, but it bothered the shit out of me that Fury keeps all of his accessories in multiple retina authentication-enabled crypts. The eye patch needed its own crypt draw? Massive eye-roll - pun intended.Sonya is my vote for the new Nick Fury. Aim for the head. That got the same response from me lol. I thought to myself "He couldve fit all those thing in just one drawer."
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