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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 29, 2020 17:41:11 GMT 1
It are tough times. The world is on lock down and people are homebound. That this had a major impact on entertainment goes without saying. Production on almost all properties have been halted and there is no telling when they can resume. This is true for Marvel Studios as much as it is for others. Back Widow is ready to go but theaters are closed. Eternals is in postproduction which is difficult because it must be done in a distanced society. Shang Chi production was under way but has been paused. On the TV side the Falcon and The Winter Soldier show was about wrapped up and supposed to come out in August. THey only needed to shoot a couple of scenes in Prague. Well the Czech Republic has been on a hard lock down and there is no way to know when they can finish the show. Wandavision is also about ready but has the same problems as Eternals and Loki is in the same situation as Shang Chi. There is an extra component here and I think AQUA SALZ! will have field day with this. Marvel Studios is working with an interconnected cinematic universe. If one stone falls they all do. Meaning if you postpone one the rest has to be postponed as well. They influence each other and if you move one and not the rest things could start to make no sense. For as far as the MCU did make sense. What do yo think and please elaborate on your thoughts.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Apr 29, 2020 17:49:10 GMT 1
They've already moved all of the movies back to keep them in the same order. I'm sure they will adjust the release dates of the TV shows as needed to place them where they need to go in the overall universe.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 29, 2020 18:20:30 GMT 1
They've already moved all of the movies back to keep them in the same order. I'm sure they will adjust the release dates of the TV shows as needed to place them where they need to go in the overall universe. i don't even think that's needed people are smart enough to figure it all out
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 29, 2020 18:29:25 GMT 1
They've already moved all of the movies back to keep them in the same order. I'm sure they will adjust the release dates of the TV shows as needed to place them where they need to go in the overall universe. Yes but they also have a money concern and a Disney+ concern. Moneywise they should be able to hold out (if they cant who can?). But there are reports of people being let go by Marvel Studios. This cant last too long without income. And Disney+ is build on two pillars. Star Wars, which had been what under fire in terms of quality and Marvel who still needs to start their programming there. This crisis could lead to troubles on that front as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2020 0:11:09 GMT 1
Really hard to say. Only ones that are doing well are supermarkets, essential and online businesses. I'd say maybe cut some scenes or reshoot if possible
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Apr 30, 2020 15:19:16 GMT 1
Grandmaster said:I’m not sure I’ll have a field day with it… It’s not as if I want the MCU to fail, though to be candid I have reached my superhero-movie burnout point. What you wrote, however, is true: the interconnectedness will hurt Marvel at a time when no one can go to the movies, and it points to the dangers of shared universes. My major concern with that, however, isn’t that the entires all affect each other (regular movie series are like that too) but that gradually the interconnected series will become about itself rather than about the quality of each individual movie made. That is to say, mass audiences will go to see a specific movie because it’s in the Marvel or DC Universe, not because of that specific movie’s quality. (In that way, too, lies hysterical fandom verging on fanaticism.) How did I phrase it at v2.0? “It feeds on itself, a giant candle burning on its own wax until it’s all burnt up, and the flame goes out.” I’m kind of deviating from the point of the thread…just wanted to clarify the argument I was trying to make now three years ago (!).
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 30, 2020 15:35:39 GMT 1
Grandmaster said:I’m not sure I’ll have a field day with it… It’s not as if I want the MCU to fail, though to be candid I have reached my superhero-movie burnout point. What you wrote, however, is true: the interconnectedness will hurt Marvel at a time when no one can go to the movies, and it points to the dangers of shared universes. My major concern with that, however, isn’t that the entires all affect each other (regular movie series are like that too) but that gradually the interconnected series will become about itself rather than about the quality of each individual movie made. That is to say, mass audiences will go to see a specific movie because it’s in the Marvel or DC Universe, not because of that specific movie’s quality. (In that way, too, lies hysterical fandom verging on fanaticism.) How did I phrase it at v2.0? “It feeds on itself, a giant candle burning on its own wax until it’s all burnt up, and the flame goes out.” I’m kind of deviating from the point of the thread…just wanted to clarify the argument I was trying to make now three years ago (!). Its more that I have come to realise you have a more than valid point when it comes to the concept of shared universes. They do indeed feed on themselves and are fragile as this crisis is pointing out.
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Apr 30, 2020 15:47:02 GMT 1
Grandmaster said:I’m not sure I’ll have a field day with it… It’s not as if I want the MCU to fail, though to be candid I have reached my superhero-movie burnout point. What you wrote, however, is true: the interconnectedness will hurt Marvel at a time when no one can go to the movies, and it points to the dangers of shared universes. My major concern with that, however, isn’t that the entires all affect each other (regular movie series are like that too) but that gradually the interconnected series will become about itself rather than about the quality of each individual movie made. That is to say, mass audiences will go to see a specific movie because it’s in the Marvel or DC Universe, not because of that specific movie’s quality. (In that way, too, lies hysterical fandom verging on fanaticism.) How did I phrase it at v2.0? “It feeds on itself, a giant candle burning on its own wax until it’s all burnt up, and the flame goes out.” I’m kind of deviating from the point of the thread…just wanted to clarify the argument I was trying to make now three years ago (!). Its more that I have come to realise you have a more than valid point when it comes to the concept of shared universes. They do indeed feed on themselves and are fragile as this crisis is pointing out. Thanks! I wasn’t ever trying to blast what people enjoy, of course…just was expressing something I’ve noticed.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 2, 2020 10:30:18 GMT 1
I think the MCU will be fine. Disney + will take a hit due to lack of good/interesting exclusive content, which lets be honest here was the Marvel shows which the production was stopped on them due to the Covid-19 pandemic. So they're more than likely going to be delayed.
I'm not sure about Black Widow box office. I'm sure that people will go to the public theaters but how many? Especially if the virus hits us hard again in the fall/winter without a vaccine.
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Post by Grandmaster on May 2, 2020 10:36:28 GMT 1
I think the MCU will be fine. Disney + will take a hit due to lack of good/interesting exclusive content, which lets be honest here was the Marvel shows which the production was stopped on them due to the Covid-19 pandemic. So they're more than likely going to be delayed. I'm not sure about Black Widow box office. I'm sure that people will go to the public theaters but how many? Especially if the virus hits us hard again in the fall/winter without a vaccine. That last part is something I fear as well. Lets say theaters can only pack half capacity without a vaccine. How many people are willing? Will theaters extend the film's run in that theater? There are a lot of big if's if you ask me. I think the Endgame record will stand a long time.
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