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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 23:20:08 GMT 1
Yea the toxic fandom commentary was my least favorite part of the show from day 1. I still adhere to the 'dont feed the trolls' mentality so to have a show that feels like deliberate troll bait and in the end only that, it feels frustrating. I'm not mad if it worked for others...I've been saying since episode 3 that maybe some of this humor isn't actually for me and that's alright. But this became at the moment my least favorite MCU movie or show to date. Maybe just above I Am Groot but that's only because I Am Groot was meant for toddlers. I actually have a real life friend with the same voice cadence as Madisynn and that might be why the character doesn't bother me at all compared to some people who are totally annoyed by her. As always, I appreciate the swing and a miss from the MCU, but it's time to acknowledge there are serious quality control issues in some corners of the brand. I feel bad for the fans who think the creatives are here for nothing other than translating the source material as-is from panel to screen. It's far more critical to capture the spirit of a character than to be pedantic about every minor detail. Despite all the shortcomings, I think this particular adaptation of She-Hulk has potential. It could benefit from showrunners who are less thirsty to be "on message." Yea I mean overall phase 4 has felt more versatile and diverse for the MCU and I've really enjoyed it. This is one of the few real misses for me.
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 23:24:21 GMT 1
That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern. What kills me is that it had so much potential and it had to be a Hulk universe character too. The comedy itself was mixed or very bad, for me anyway. Forced politics. I mean look at Wandavision or Steinfeld in Hawkeye. I even rate Ms. Marvel above this show too I was thinking about this today way back before the season started I was interested to see if this show was gonna be a kind of lynchpin for a lot of the MCU since it was going to have so many characters in it from Wong to Abomination to Hulk to Daredevil. Like despite being a comedy it might tie a lot of random storylines together and give the MCU a bit more cohesion than we've seen in phase 4. And then today after that finale all I wanted was the rest of the MCU to forget this show mattered.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2022 23:29:10 GMT 1
That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern. What kills me is that it had so much potential and it had to be a Hulk universe character too. The comedy itself was mixed or very bad, for me anyway. Forced politics. I mean look at Wandavision or Steinfeld in Hawkeye. I even rate Ms. Marvel above this show too I can tell this one hit you hard, man. Take solace in the fact that they cast the character well, and she has potential to be a great addition to the MCU under better stewardship.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 9:30:17 GMT 1
What kills me is that it had so much potential and it had to be a Hulk universe character too. The comedy itself was mixed or very bad, for me anyway. Forced politics. I mean look at Wandavision or Steinfeld in Hawkeye. I even rate Ms. Marvel above this show too I can tell this one hit you hard, man. Take solace in the fact that they cast the character well, and she has potential to be a great addition to the MCU under better stewardship. Just disappointed. I mean we get little of the Hulk world as it is but I guess that could change now for obvious reasons.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2022 10:26:10 GMT 1
Yeah this interview seems so believable. She couldnt mention anything from the comics, oh just more from season one..also yeah right that guy thinks this show is awesome..
Now here are some women with their opinions. Obviously they dont reflect all women but it was interesting nevertheless
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 14, 2022 11:26:47 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 14, 2022 11:29:28 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 14, 2022 11:30:00 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 14, 2022 11:30:30 GMT 1
Yeah, She-Hulk was definitely comic accurate by breaking the fourth wall like that.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 0:04:44 GMT 1
Yeah, She-Hulk was definitely comic accurate by breaking the fourth wall like that. Sure. Dont you find it odd she couldnt mention anything? Titania may as well be a pale imitation and ridiculous, her nemesis. Also Intelligencia wtf was that?! Not the point but Ive got this too: How is She-Hulk: Attorney at Law different from the comics?link
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Post by LokisMom on Oct 15, 2022 1:15:58 GMT 1
Told you so.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2022 1:21:56 GMT 1
Told you so. ?
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Post by Merv on Oct 15, 2022 4:13:56 GMT 1
Told you so. ? I think it’s about Daredevil showing back up.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Oct 15, 2022 11:32:34 GMT 1
I have no idea what's more divisive. This show or Halloween Ends lol
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 16, 2022 11:31:14 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Oct 16, 2022 15:56:04 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Oct 16, 2022 18:33:23 GMT 1
Just watched the episode. I can see why it's controversial for some. I am disappointed that Kevin Feige didn't appear himself. I mean if you're going to do that you should either fully commit to the gag or don't do it at all.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Oct 16, 2022 22:50:31 GMT 1
I liked it, but didn't love it. It was something that would absolutely happen in a She-Hulk comic, but I felt the punchline could have been snappier.
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Post by movieliker on Oct 19, 2022 20:32:28 GMT 1
Just watched the final 4 episodes. The special effects are good. The acting is terrific. Tatiana Maslany has star power. And it's entertaining for people who like this kinda thing.
Is it the best TV show ever? No. Is it perfect? No But considering most of the shows on TV, it's better than most. It's just a silly and ridiculous Marvel superhero TV show. Like most Marvel superhero movies and TV shows.
(I was offended by the episode where she finally sleeps with the "supposedly good guy" she meets at her friend's wedding. Not because it was depicted in this silly TV show. But in my experience, this is the way many young people see sex these days. After dating someone for three dates, you finally sleep together, and they "ghost" you after.
Yes, she took it too personally. But her super-powered support group blamed her for texting him she couldn't stop smiling. And showing concern for his welfare when he dissappeared so abruptly.
Anybody that is scared off by such normal and healthy honesty is either a dishonest creep. Or too immature to handle an adult relationship. Her feelings are understandable. But he was doing her a favor by not hanging around. He wasn't relationship material.
Her support group did offer to kill him. An obvious overreaction. But blaming and analyzing her for taking it too seriously was wrong too.)
Forever young boys have been inspired by silly male superheros. Now young girls can take inspiration from silly female superheros like Captain Marvel and She Hulk.
Once again, this show is an 8 out of 10 for me.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 22, 2022 3:56:02 GMT 1
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Post by LokisMom on Oct 22, 2022 9:44:18 GMT 1
Just watched the episode. I can see why it's controversial for some. I am disappointed that Kevin Feige didn't appear himself. I mean if you're going to do that you should either fully commit to the gag or don't do it at all. I got a feeling the whole KEVIN scene was a last minute insert to salvage some kind of ending.
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Post by Merv on Oct 24, 2022 18:24:26 GMT 1
People might be sick of She Hulk by now but I always enjoy this youtubers commentary on films and tv because its supposedly from a lawyers perspective.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 26, 2022 20:28:16 GMT 1
I didn't dislike the series but it fell kind of flat. I could be wrong, but it Seemed to me like they were trying to go in some direction with the ending but then realized it wasn't working and then just canned it and decided to get cute with her going into the writers office and the stuff with Kevin and thought people would think that was so hilariously awesome that they would overlook the fact that there was no ending at all and nothing they were doing came together in any way. I'd give the series a 7/10 because I enjoyed it enough to give it a positive rating but not by much.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 4, 2022 15:45:29 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Nov 4, 2022 15:58:39 GMT 1
The “What the hell was that noise?” got me good.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Aug 30, 2023 16:20:23 GMT 1
Possible second season in the works?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Aug 30, 2023 16:48:25 GMT 1
Possible second season in the works?
If this is true (big if), will they correct their mistakes or double down on the stupid?
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Post by Merv on Aug 30, 2023 17:29:20 GMT 1
Possible second season in the works?
If this is true (big if), will they correct their mistakes or double down on the stupid? If true, I have to ask myself…after being made the fool by the end of season 1, do I actually want to sit through a season 2?
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 17, 2024 21:21:51 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Jan 17, 2024 22:54:32 GMT 1
Sounds like maybe theyre learning from their mistakes. Thats a good thing. Its a shame the She Hulk character was the sacrifice in the process because the people in charge probably aren't smart enough to know that it was the writing that was the true issue. and i guess the budget but i mean, who greenlit that?
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