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Post by AQUA CAT! on Oct 8, 2022 22:24:38 GMT 1
Don’t forget the frog suit. Ribbit and Rip It!!!I find this highly offensive! As usually when we hear ribbit it means certain death. Lost many many brothers and sisters to evil frogs! I'm amphivalent.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 9, 2022 12:08:41 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Oct 11, 2022 19:30:14 GMT 1
Apparently the finale has a 35 minute runtime. Plenty of time to form a satisfying conclusion. :/
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2022 19:51:04 GMT 1
Apparently the finale has a 35 minute runtime. Plenty of time to form a satisfying conclusion. :/ Yeah I dont have much optimism either. DD was great last week but frogman..sheesh.. Im going in with an expectation of C/C+ so that way I cant be disappointed lol
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 10:32:41 GMT 1
Just to sum up my thoughts on the finale...here is a literal quote from me about halfway through.
That is all.
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 10:45:39 GMT 1
This is the real Skaar.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 10:50:54 GMT 1
Just to sum up my thoughts on the finale...here is a literal quote from me about halfway through. That is all. aaannd the finale sucked..the talk in breaking the wall was ironic...honestly I wasnt that thrilled before it happened
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 10:57:35 GMT 1
Just to sum up my thoughts on the finale...here is a literal quote from me about halfway through. That is all. aaannd the finale sucked..the talk in breaking the wall was ironic...honestly I wasnt that thrilled before it happened The fourth wall break ruined this finale for me. Even before it went WAY off the rails I thought it was way too much. When she kept doing it during the "Hulk Party" I kept getting annoyed and honestly once she broke through the disney plus app I probably had a steady annoyed look on my face the whole rest of the episode. That combined with them basically setting up their own blood plot thread and 'guest appearances' and then making me feel like the schmuch for getting excited about it or looking forward to some storyline closure in the finale. The blatant dropping of elements of the show to drop in a storybook ending honestly just felt like a big F U and thanks for wasting your own time on this show. I honestly don't think I could be more disappointed if they had gone the 'it was all a dream' route and had Jen waking up after months of being in a coma after that car crash in episode 1.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 10:59:20 GMT 1
Todd is my no.1 MCU villain....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 11:05:32 GMT 1
aaannd the finale sucked..the talk in breaking the wall was ironic...honestly I wasnt that thrilled before it happened The fourth wall break ruined this finale for me. Even before it went WAY off the rails I thought it was way too much. When she kept doing it during the "Hulk Party" I kept getting annoyed and honestly once she broke through the disney plus app I probably had a steady annoyed look on my face the whole rest of the episode. That combined with them basically setting up their own blood plot thread and 'guest appearances' and then making me feel like the schmuch for getting excited about it or looking forward to some storyline closure in the finale. The blatant dropping of elements of the show to drop in a storybook ending honestly just felt like a big F U and thanks for wasting your own time on this show. I honestly don't think I could be more disappointed if they had gone the 'it was all a dream' route and had Jen waking up after months of being in a coma after that car crash in episode 1. oh look how clever we are by doing this..we'll do it this way yadda yadda..and a big nothing which they chose and explained to us...ummm ok..I wish Daredevil wasnt in this now even though he was good in this.. and it wasnt funny either..what they tried to do
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 11:11:03 GMT 1
I never thought I would do a dc fan but she-hulk finale. 1/10
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 11:14:27 GMT 1
The fourth wall break ruined this finale for me. Even before it went WAY off the rails I thought it was way too much. When she kept doing it during the "Hulk Party" I kept getting annoyed and honestly once she broke through the disney plus app I probably had a steady annoyed look on my face the whole rest of the episode. That combined with them basically setting up their own blood plot thread and 'guest appearances' and then making me feel like the schmuch for getting excited about it or looking forward to some storyline closure in the finale. The blatant dropping of elements of the show to drop in a storybook ending honestly just felt like a big F U and thanks for wasting your own time on this show. I honestly don't think I could be more disappointed if they had gone the 'it was all a dream' route and had Jen waking up after months of being in a coma after that car crash in episode 1. oh look how clever we are by doing this..we'll do it this way yadda yadda..and a big nothing which they chose and explained to us...ummm ok..I wish Daredevil wasnt in this now even though he was good in this.. and it wasnt funny either..what they tried to do It just felt like the joke was on me, as the viewer. Like look how dumb you are to want closure to this boring blood storyline that we invented and drug you along for for several episodes and which we're now dropping completely because we couldn't think of anything better to do with it than give it to Todd. How dare you be excited to see Hulk drop in from space after disappearing in episode 1 (or 2 I can't remember). What kind of a tool wouldve been interested in a 5 way Hulk brawl with She Hulk, Hulk, Abomination, Titania and Todd-Hulk? It just feels like theyre making fun of their own product and me by association for wanting to enjoy that product. But I also have a bit of a headache right now so Im probably more prone to being annoyed than normal. But still...I don' t think I wouldve liked this regardless of my mood.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 13, 2022 11:33:06 GMT 1
I thought it was absolutely brilliant. This whole show has been so good on a meta-level and they really stuck the landing.
The line... I'll leave that to the debate on the internet... killed me.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 11:35:55 GMT 1
oh look how clever we are by doing this..we'll do it this way yadda yadda..and a big nothing which they chose and explained to us...ummm ok..I wish Daredevil wasnt in this now even though he was good in this.. and it wasnt funny either..what they tried to do It just felt like the joke was on me, as the viewer. Like look how dumb you are to want closure to this boring blood storyline that we invented and drug you along for for several episodes and which we're now dropping completely because we couldn't think of anything better to do with it than give it to Todd. How dare you be excited to see Hulk drop in from space after disappearing in episode 1 (or 2 I can't remember). What kind of a tool wouldve been interested in a 5 way Hulk brawl with She Hulk, Hulk, Abomination, Titania and Todd-Hulk? It just feels like theyre making fun of their own product and me by association for wanting to enjoy that product. But I also have a bit of a headache right now so Im probably more prone to being annoyed than normal. But still...I don' t think I wouldve liked this regardless of my mood. Im also wondering how much involvement Feige had with this show. Maybe with the early episodes if that. Theres no way he wouldve greenlit that finale Perhaps it's true that Feige is spreading himself too thin. Blade is now on pause
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 11:35:59 GMT 1
I thought it was absolutely brilliant. This whole show has been so good on a meta-level and they really stuck the landing. The line... I'll leave that to the debate on the internet... killed me. I don’t remember it so it was probably during one of my expletive filled 5th wall breaks.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 11:38:31 GMT 1
I thought it was absolutely brilliant. This whole show has been so good on a meta-level and they really stuck the landing. The line... I'll leave that to the debate on the internet... killed me. Well, at least you enjoyed it haha
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 11:38:45 GMT 1
It just felt like the joke was on me, as the viewer. Like look how dumb you are to want closure to this boring blood storyline that we invented and drug you along for for several episodes and which we're now dropping completely because we couldn't think of anything better to do with it than give it to Todd. How dare you be excited to see Hulk drop in from space after disappearing in episode 1 (or 2 I can't remember). What kind of a tool wouldve been interested in a 5 way Hulk brawl with She Hulk, Hulk, Abomination, Titania and Todd-Hulk? It just feels like theyre making fun of their own product and me by association for wanting to enjoy that product. But I also have a bit of a headache right now so Im probably more prone to being annoyed than normal. But still...I don' t think I wouldve liked this regardless of my mood. Im also wondering how much involvement Feige had with this show. Maybe with the early episodes if that. Theres no way he wouldve greenlit that finale Perhaps it's true that Feige is spreading himself too thin. Blade is now on pause
Truth be told I never knew what Feige actually does. Someone years ago told me he’s the reason the MCU works and I just believed them. It’s been far too long for me to ask about it now.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 13, 2022 11:41:55 GMT 1
It just felt like the joke was on me, as the viewer. Like look how dumb you are to want closure to this boring blood storyline that we invented and drug you along for for several episodes and which we're now dropping completely because we couldn't think of anything better to do with it than give it to Todd. How dare you be excited to see Hulk drop in from space after disappearing in episode 1 (or 2 I can't remember). What kind of a tool wouldve been interested in a 5 way Hulk brawl with She Hulk, Hulk, Abomination, Titania and Todd-Hulk? It just feels like theyre making fun of their own product and me by association for wanting to enjoy that product. But I also have a bit of a headache right now so Im probably more prone to being annoyed than normal. But still...I don' t think I wouldve liked this regardless of my mood. Im also wondering how much involvement Feige had with this show. Maybe with the early episodes if that. Theres no way he wouldve greenlit that finale Perhaps it's true that Feige is spreading himself too thin. Blade is now on pause
They made AI bot in such a way it looked like Feige. He was involved. No doubts. Again... This finale was fucking brilliant. If you are into this kinda stuff, which I am.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 11:44:39 GMT 1
Hard to believe Andor and this come from the same company..
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 13, 2022 11:50:36 GMT 1
Marvel Studios literally took all complaints from fans and said, fuck it, we're putting it in this show and have some fun with it.
They even predicted stuff that people would complain about in this show and played with that.
I was luke warm on the show but this finale skyrocketed it upward on my list.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 13, 2022 11:57:45 GMT 1
lmao. Spot on.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2022 17:27:51 GMT 1
Okay, I'm all caught up... and... WTF. That said, strangely enough, I'd like to see a season 2.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2022 18:33:21 GMT 1
aaannd the finale sucked..the talk in breaking the wall was ironic...honestly I wasnt that thrilled before it happened The fourth wall break ruined this finale for me. Even before it went WAY off the rails I thought it was way too much. When she kept doing it during the "Hulk Party" I kept getting annoyed and honestly once she broke through the disney plus app I probably had a steady annoyed look on my face the whole rest of the episode. That combined with them basically setting up their own blood plot thread and 'guest appearances' and then making me feel like the schmuch for getting excited about it or looking forward to some storyline closure in the finale. The blatant dropping of elements of the show to drop in a storybook ending honestly just felt like a big F U and thanks for wasting your own time on this show. I honestly don't think I could be more disappointed if they had gone the 'it was all a dream' route and had Jen waking up after months of being in a coma after that car crash in episode 1. I felt similarly but decided to take ownership of the idea that I got excited for another cameo-laden, blood plot twist finale in the superhero genre. She-Hulk was never truly all that interesting to me that it warranted sticking around - but I did - and that's squarely on me. I squeezed in four episodes last night and the finale earlier this morning, I could have stopped at any time, but I didn't, and I got what I deserved.
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 18:44:09 GMT 1
The fourth wall break ruined this finale for me. Even before it went WAY off the rails I thought it was way too much. When she kept doing it during the "Hulk Party" I kept getting annoyed and honestly once she broke through the disney plus app I probably had a steady annoyed look on my face the whole rest of the episode. That combined with them basically setting up their own blood plot thread and 'guest appearances' and then making me feel like the schmuch for getting excited about it or looking forward to some storyline closure in the finale. The blatant dropping of elements of the show to drop in a storybook ending honestly just felt like a big F U and thanks for wasting your own time on this show. I honestly don't think I could be more disappointed if they had gone the 'it was all a dream' route and had Jen waking up after months of being in a coma after that car crash in episode 1. I felt similarly but decided to take ownership of the idea that I got excited for another cameo-laden, blood plot twist finale in the superhero genre. She-Hulk was never truly all that interesting to me that it warranted sticking around - but I did - and that's squarely on me. I squeezed in four episodes last night and the finale earlier this morning, I could have stopped at any time, but I didn't, and I got what I deserved. It’s generic story beats, sure. But it’s generic because that’s the story the show itself was selling. I just can’t shake that idea that this show is essentially telling me that because I was interested in the plot lines they were selling me that I’M the a-hole. The whole thing just really feels like it was made FOR the trolls. That it was all just a deliberate ruse in order to laugh as the “toxic fandom” takes the bait, and in the end there’s almost nothing here for me, someone who has enjoyed just about everything the MCU has thrown out there. I hope Tatiana Maslany sticks around as She Hulk and gets a proper time to shine in the future when better writers and show runners surround her. Outside of her I don’t really want anything else from this show sticking around or mattering. Oh and Madisynn. She was a win.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 21:38:53 GMT 1
I felt similarly but decided to take ownership of the idea that I got excited for another cameo-laden, blood plot twist finale in the superhero genre. She-Hulk was never truly all that interesting to me that it warranted sticking around - but I did - and that's squarely on me. I squeezed in four episodes last night and the finale earlier this morning, I could have stopped at any time, but I didn't, and I got what I deserved. It’s generic story beats, sure. But it’s generic because that’s the story the show itself was selling. I just can’t shake that idea that this show is essentially telling me that because I was interested in the plot lines they were selling me that I’M the a-hole. The whole thing just really feels like it was made FOR the trolls. That it was all just a deliberate ruse in order to laugh as the “toxic fandom” takes the bait, and in the end there’s almost nothing here for me, someone who has enjoyed just about everything the MCU has thrown out there. I hope Tatiana Maslany sticks around as She Hulk and gets a proper time to shine in the future when better writers and show runners surround her. Outside of her I don’t really want anything else from this show sticking around or mattering. Oh and Madisynn. She was a win. I hope Deadpool shoots season 1 in the head or at least the finale idea, Wolverine Origins style lol
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Oct 13, 2022 22:45:34 GMT 1
I haven't watched the episode yet, will this weekend, but I saw the screenshot of Skaar and holyshit his design looks terrible.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2022 22:55:21 GMT 1
I felt similarly but decided to take ownership of the idea that I got excited for another cameo-laden, blood plot twist finale in the superhero genre. She-Hulk was never truly all that interesting to me that it warranted sticking around - but I did - and that's squarely on me. I squeezed in four episodes last night and the finale earlier this morning, I could have stopped at any time, but I didn't, and I got what I deserved. It’s generic story beats, sure. But it’s generic because that’s the story the show itself was selling. I just can’t shake that idea that this show is essentially telling me that because I was interested in the plot lines they were selling me that I’M the a-hole. The whole thing just really feels like it was made FOR the trolls. That it was all just a deliberate ruse in order to laugh as the “toxic fandom” takes the bait, and in the end there’s almost nothing here for me, someone who has enjoyed just about everything the MCU has thrown out there. I hope Tatiana Maslany sticks around as She Hulk and gets a proper time to shine in the future when better writers and show runners surround her. Outside of her I don’t really want anything else from this show sticking around or mattering. Oh and Madisynn. She was a win. That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if not completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern.
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Post by Merv on Oct 13, 2022 23:04:38 GMT 1
It’s generic story beats, sure. But it’s generic because that’s the story the show itself was selling. I just can’t shake that idea that this show is essentially telling me that because I was interested in the plot lines they were selling me that I’M the a-hole. The whole thing just really feels like it was made FOR the trolls. That it was all just a deliberate ruse in order to laugh as the “toxic fandom” takes the bait, and in the end there’s almost nothing here for me, someone who has enjoyed just about everything the MCU has thrown out there. I hope Tatiana Maslany sticks around as She Hulk and gets a proper time to shine in the future when better writers and show runners surround her. Outside of her I don’t really want anything else from this show sticking around or mattering. Oh and Madisynn. She was a win. That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern. Yea the toxic fandom commentary was my least favorite part of the show from day 1. I still adhere to the 'dont feed the trolls' mentality so to have a show that feels like deliberate troll bait and in the end only that, it feels frustrating. I'm not mad if it worked for others...I've been saying since episode 3 that maybe some of this humor isn't actually for me and that's alright. But this became at the moment my least favorite MCU movie or show to date. Maybe just above I Am Groot but that's only because I Am Groot was meant for toddlers. I actually have a real life friend with the same voice cadence as Madisynn and that might be why the character doesn't bother me at all compared to some people who are totally annoyed by her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2022 23:07:19 GMT 1
It’s generic story beats, sure. But it’s generic because that’s the story the show itself was selling. I just can’t shake that idea that this show is essentially telling me that because I was interested in the plot lines they were selling me that I’M the a-hole. The whole thing just really feels like it was made FOR the trolls. That it was all just a deliberate ruse in order to laugh as the “toxic fandom” takes the bait, and in the end there’s almost nothing here for me, someone who has enjoyed just about everything the MCU has thrown out there. I hope Tatiana Maslany sticks around as She Hulk and gets a proper time to shine in the future when better writers and show runners surround her. Outside of her I don’t really want anything else from this show sticking around or mattering. Oh and Madisynn. She was a win. That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern. What kills me is that it had so much potential and it had to be a Hulk universe character too. The comedy itself was mixed or very bad, for me anyway. Forced politics. I mean look at Wandavision or Steinfeld in Hawkeye. I even rate Ms. Marvel above this show too
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 13, 2022 23:13:41 GMT 1
That's fair; I'm not particularly perturbed by the showrunner's overall messaging. Creatives have the right to impart their viewpoint into their work. I can tune it out if I don't like or agree with what they're saying. I don't believe in hate-watching anything. I felt like I saw their toxic fanboy commentary coming from a mile away, but I was too slow and sluggish to avoid it. My takeaway from the show is that it's aggressively mediocre. If this show were not set in the MCU and had no sci-fi fantasy elements, it would be a straight-off-the-assembly-line sitcom about a Millenial trying to navigate the pitfalls of her high-powered career (while trying to get laid seemingly every chance she got). I'm placing She-Hulk just above my least favorite MCU show, which - sadly - is Ms. Marvel. I did enjoy her banter with the K.E.V.I.N. android, and the fact that there is a "real world" in the MCU, which observes itself, is interesting, if completley paradoxical. I like Mads' too - but my fondness for her is tied to a perverse attraction to her "vocal fry" speech pattern. Yea the toxic fandom commentary was my least favorite part of the show from day 1. I still adhere to the 'dont feed the trolls' mentality so to have a show that feels like deliberate troll bait and in the end only that, it feels frustrating. I'm not mad if it worked for others...I've been saying since episode 3 that maybe some of this humor isn't actually for me and that's alright. But this became at the moment my least favorite MCU movie or show to date. Maybe just above I Am Groot but that's only because I Am Groot was meant for toddlers. I actually have a real life friend with the same voice cadence as Madisynn and that might be why the character doesn't bother me at all compared to some people who are totally annoyed by her. As always, I appreciate the swing and a miss from the MCU, but it's time to acknowledge there are serious quality control issues in some corners of the brand. I feel bad for the fans who think the creatives are here for nothing other than translating the source material as-is from panel to screen. It's far more critical to capture the spirit of a character than to be pedantic about every minor detail. Despite all the shortcomings, I think this particular adaptation of She-Hulk has potential. It could benefit from showrunners who are less thirsty to be "on message."
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