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Post by Indiana Jones on May 22, 2023 15:22:03 GMT 1
All signs point to a groundbreaking superhero film. Well, that figures...
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 31, 2023 2:22:52 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 31, 2023 19:22:37 GMT 1
Speaking with Entertainment Weekly, Calle revealed that she did indeed meet her fellow Super-hero, heaping praise on the actor and his portrayal of the DC icon. "Yes, I met him. I met him actually after the movie was done, months later. I gave him a big hug. You know, it's Henry Cavill, man! Our Man of Steel. He is kind and very proper, and it was a great experience." movieweb.com/henry-cavill-gave-the-flash-star-sasha-calles-supergirl-his-approval/
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 31, 2023 22:48:12 GMT 1
Speaking with Entertainment Weekly, Calle revealed that she did indeed meet her fellow Super-hero, heaping praise on the actor and his portrayal of the DC icon. You know, it's Henry Cavill, man! Our Man of Steel.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 4, 2023 22:55:20 GMT 1
A script for a potential sequel has already been written.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 6, 2023 17:05:11 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 6, 2023 21:20:08 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 6, 2023 22:02:47 GMT 1
The Flash now has a 72% rating from 52 critics. 50% of top critics love the Flash.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 7, 2023 19:24:16 GMT 1
The Flash now has a 72% rating from 52 critics. 50% of top critics love the Flash. Curious about its BO performance at this rate.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 13, 2023 16:53:52 GMT 1
Got my tickets. Somewhat excited for this one. Just that Ezrah Miller guy.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 14, 2023 14:43:07 GMT 1
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 16, 2023 1:37:43 GMT 1
The Flash (2023). **spoilers below** Flash! Ah-ah! He’ll screw up the universe... Considering all the heinous things Ezra Miller’s guilty of, I felt conflicted about seeing this film...but in the end decided that everyone else involved with the film didn’t deserve to be punished for Miller’s crimes by having their hard work boycotted. Also, I’ve been waiting since the 1984 Helen Slater movie to see the character of Supergirl on the big-screen again. That and the return of Michael Keaton’s Batman were the main draws...and it’s not until they appear that this movie really gets going. The first hour or so is quite the slog, as you’re forced to sit through Miller’s Barry/Flash and the painful so-called ‘humour’ that accompanies his character (if you found him annoying before...this won't change that), Batfleck attempting a Bale-style Batman growl, a drawn-out effects sequence involving raining CGI infants that’ll probably coin the phrase ‘microwave the baby’ (becoming the new ‘jump the shark’/’nuke the fridge’) and a dull underdeveloped romance with Barry's love interest, Iris West. The only bright spot? Gal Gadot’s Wonder Woman, who’s the gift that keeps on giving, her Lasso of Truth providing an actually genuinely amusing moment before she flies off to continue being awesome (and hopefully NOT be erased by James Gunn ‘rebooting’ the DCEU, since she was one of the only good things to come out of it). Turns out the three certainties in life are death, taxes and Barry Allen messing up timelines/the multiverse, as He-Of-The-Funny-Run runs SO fast that he time-travels back to prevent the death of his mother and clear the name of his father blamed for her murder...which is all connected to a can of tomatoes (yes, REALLY). As if his running didn’t already look ridiculous, just imagine him doing that on the spot to give us a glimpse of what moving through time looks like inside the 'Speed Force'. As to why the figures look overly-CGI’d in this sequence, I imagine it’s because CGI is the only way to give us glimpses of previous incarnations of certain characters towards the film’s end (most of which I was spoiled for and one of whom is a dearly departed actor, which I’m sure will further fuel the debate regarding CGI resurrecting people...but I was so surprised/over-the-moon to see his character’s cousin right there alongside him that I was willing to forgive it). Think things would immediately improve upon Barry’s time-travelling? Think again. Now we’re stuck with TWO of him (the younger of which acts like he was dropped on his head as a child). I guess it’d be unfair to not acknowledge Miller doing an adequate job portraying two versions of Barry...but honestly? Once you’ve seen Tatiana Maslany’s phenomenal work in the TV series Orphan Black, all other actors-portraying-multiple-versions-of-themselves pale in comparison. Prepare yourself for plenty of exposition throughout the film, as there’s hardly a scene without any from this point on. It’s one bungle after another for the Barrys, as recreating the lightning/chemicals accident that gave Future Barry his powers so Past Barry gets them too results in Future Barry losing his. With no Diana or anyone useful existing in this new timeline, they seek out Bruce Wayne...but it ain’t Batfleck. Enter Keaton (or at least his stunt double), looking decidedly homeless (despite still living in his Tim Burton movie mansion restored to its full gothic glory), kicking the Barrys' butts until they annoy him into helping them. He then attempts to explain how Future Barry has effed things up with an awkward/painful-to-watch spaghetti metaphor. Those who’ve waited to see another outing from Keaton’s Batman almost as long as I’ve waited to see a new big-screen Supergirl will finally get what they’ve been longing for when he suits up to aid the Barrys in freeing Superman from a Russian prison...though once again, it’s not who they expect and we’re instead introduced to Sasha Calle’s Kara Zor-El/Supergirl. With Ezra Miller's crimes threatening to overshadow this project, I felt sorry for all involved...but especially Sasha Calle, since this was supposed to be her big debut, bringing a new version of Supergirl to life after the character had previously only been seen on the small-screen (in the series Smallville, and then later, Supergirl) since the 1984 movie. Calle’s interpretation of the character is quite different from that of Helen Slater's, Laura Vandervoort's or Melissa Benoist’s. This Kara hasn’t really anything to smile about after humans immediately locked her up upon her arrival to Earth. However, she learns that not ALL people are dicks (speaking of, all the references Barry makes to that particular appendage in the movie weren’t funny...despite the writers apparently thinking they were) and agrees to help the Barrys, plus Keaton’s Batman, stop General Zod invading Earth (which, oh yeah, is another result of Future Barry’s screw-up). While I appreciated seeing Supergirl kick serious butt, I was disappointed the display of her powers we were treated to was only the bare minimum. On top of that, she’s defeated by Zod not once, not twice...but OVER AND OVER AGAIN (I’m sure those who dislike female superheroes will get their jollies from watching that), which I thought was a shockingly disrespectful way to treat the debut of a new Supergirl. Sasha Calle deserved better! Also criminally underused is Antje Traue’s Faora-Ul (who was the ONLY part of MoS that I actually liked). She made a more menacing villain than Zod previously and I was looking forward to more of her...but this time around she’s barely featured/not even given any dialogue before being easily dispatched. SUCH a waste (on the plus side, Cavill’s Superbland receives similar unceremonious treatment, which will surely upset the Cult of Cavill). The treatment of Supergirl/Faora is just one example of what annoyed me about this movie. For every 'good' bit, there were umpteen ‘bad’ bits (Aquaman's post-credits scene, drunkenly collapsing facedown into a puddle of water outside a bar, perfectly sums up the current state of the DCEU). The only recommendation I can make regarding this movie is come for the Keaton, stay for the Supergirl.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 16, 2023 1:39:29 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 17, 2023 12:29:40 GMT 1
Almost seated. Really looking forward to this one.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 17, 2023 16:29:58 GMT 1
Of course Im gonna save my comments for the review we will be recording later this weekend. However.... Chalice_Of_Evil knocked it out of the park with his comments.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 18, 2023 16:50:08 GMT 1
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 18, 2023 22:48:20 GMT 1
That's^ the best scathing review of the movie.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2023 2:33:42 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 19, 2023 3:30:52 GMT 1
I reckon they liked his work with Keaton and Affleck.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2023 4:03:49 GMT 1
I reckon they liked his work with Keaton and Affleck. I can't speak for either of them, but I think at least Gunn sincerely liked the whole movie. Unfortunately, from a business perspective, the film's performance doesn't warrant assigning him The Brave and The Bold.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 19, 2023 9:17:18 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Jun 19, 2023 17:22:41 GMT 1
I keep reading that the Flash cost 200 million to make, with maybe another 100 million in marketing. But that it needs to make 600 million in order to ‘break even’.
I’m not a math major but I’m hoping someone can explain where the other 300 million comes from.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jun 19, 2023 18:07:24 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 19, 2023 18:37:56 GMT 1
I keep reading that the Flash cost 200 million to make, with maybe another 100 million in marketing. But that it needs to make 600 million in order to ‘break even’. I’m not a math major but I’m hoping someone can explain where the other 300 million comes from. It comes from the opaque AF financial practice of "Hollywood Accounting." It is essentially the practice of inflating a film's overall cost to reduce its profits. Reducing a film's net profit reduces studio obligations, such as profit sharing, taxes, and residuals. Movie productions typically make one-time use limited liability corporations to have them bill the parent corporation for services whose payments can then be tax deductions when reporting income to the IRS. I was an intern at a financial services corporation for a short time (12 days). I saw firsthand how "shares" in popular movies get packaged into complex derivative-type products. I couldn't fully fathom the meaning of what I saw then, but in the years since, I've come to believe that the movie industry is destined for an epic collapse in the style of the 2008 housing market. The high profitability and salaries associated with blockbuster filmmaking are based largely on unpursued tax fraud. While I couldn't say for certain, I'm guessing that my fellow Americans would be reluctant to bail out the movie industry if it ever collapsed. The probable result of such a collapse would be the inability of any studio to make and market movies at their current budget thresholds. Movies would have to be insanely cheaper to make them remotely profitable. The only way to avoid this collapse, and the recursive loop of debt the movie industry incurs, is to make movies with ever escalating budgets to eek out more profits.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 19, 2023 20:57:20 GMT 1
Lord Death Man, reminds me of this exchange from Shakespeare in Love: Philip Henslowe: But I have to pay the actors and the author!
Hugh Fennymman: Share of the profits.
Philip Henslowe: But there never are any?!
Hugh Fennymman: Exactly.
Philip Henslowe: Oh, Oh Mr. Fennyman. I think you may have hit upon something!
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 21, 2023 22:20:19 GMT 1
It seems that the Flash movie has proven that speed isn't everything, especially when it comes to box office success. Despite the initial hype and high expectations, it appears that our beloved speedster has stumbled, ushering in "the fastest flop alive."
It's quite the shock to see such a promising movie fail to maintain its momentum, especially given the initial positive reactions. It was once hailed as "the best DC film since the Dark Knight." (Admittedly, there's a long line for that honorific).
What's particularly intriguing is the change in sentiment among those who attended the early fan screenings. It's weird to see such a dramatic shift in opinion post-release. Early viewers who saw the film, in some cases, multiple times, thought that the the film's more janky VFX would be fixed in time for a release that was mere weeks away. I have a CGI bridge to sell to all of them.
Although we own the culture right now, comic book movie fans are still the easiest lay in fandom. A couple of free screening, and you'll get a Citizen Kane-level review for whatever genre film your hocking.
Speed kills. Hee hee hee...
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Post by Merv on Jun 22, 2023 14:32:09 GMT 1
It seems that the Flash movie has proven that speed isn't everything, especially when it comes to box office success. Despite the initial hype and high expectations, it appears that our beloved speedster has stumbled, ushering in " the fastest flop alive." It's quite the shock to see such a promising movie fail to maintain its momentum, especially given the initial positive reactions. It was once hailed as "the best DC film since the Dark Knight." (Admittedly, there's a long line for that honorific). What's particularly intriguing is the change in sentiment among those who attended the early fan screenings. It's weird to see such a dramatic shift in opinion post-release. Early viewers who saw the film, in some cases, multiple times, thought that the the film's more janky VFX would be fixed in time for a release that was mere weeks away. I have a CGI bridge to sell to all of them. Although we own the culture right now, comic book movie fans are still the easiest lay in fandom. A couple of free screening, and you'll get a Citizen Kane-level review for whatever genre film your hocking. Speed kills. Hee hee hee... I barely paid attention to any hype or anything leading up to the Flash. I don’t know if that helped my view of the film or not. I’m not going to say that people who touted it as amazing were lying…but I’d love to know just what they thought was so great about it. Keep in mind I’m not saying the film was bad. I also don’t hold the Dark Knight as this pinnacle of superhero filmmaking that a lot of people do. But it’s not that hard to see the flaws in the Flash even if it was still entertaining.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 22, 2023 15:17:56 GMT 1
Hey Stephen King and Tom Cruise said it....
The Flash is cinema....
Now we wait for Scorsese.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 22, 2023 16:31:07 GMT 1
It seems that the Flash movie has proven that speed isn't everything, especially when it comes to box office success. Despite the initial hype and high expectations, it appears that our beloved speedster has stumbled, ushering in " the fastest flop alive." It's quite the shock to see such a promising movie fail to maintain its momentum, especially given the initial positive reactions. It was once hailed as "the best DC film since the Dark Knight." (Admittedly, there's a long line for that honorific). What's particularly intriguing is the change in sentiment among those who attended the early fan screenings. It's weird to see such a dramatic shift in opinion post-release. Early viewers who saw the film, in some cases, multiple times, thought that the the film's more janky VFX would be fixed in time for a release that was mere weeks away. I have a CGI bridge to sell to all of them. Although we own the culture right now, comic book movie fans are still the easiest lay in fandom. A couple of free screening, and you'll get a Citizen Kane-level review for whatever genre film your hocking. Speed kills. Hee hee hee... I barely paid attention to any hype or anything leading up to the Flash. I don’t know if that helped my view of the film or not. I’m not going to say that people who touted it as amazing were lying…but I’d love to know just what they thought was so great about it. Keep in mind I’m not saying the film was bad. I also don’t hold the Dark Knight as this pinnacle of superhero filmmaking that a lot of people do. But it’s not that hard to see the flaws in the Flash even if it was still entertaining. I must admit, I probably follow industry news more than most and perhaps more than I should. Given The Flash's lengthy development cycle, it was hard to avoid the "hype" surrounding it. The reactions from early fan screenings, prominent media figures, and rumor mongers suggested a "genre defining" experience, which only added to the anticipation. However, I found myself heavily mixed on the film. While it was well executed in certain aspects, without its celebrity cameos, the film isn't much more than a glorified CW episode. If James Gunn genuinely thought this was 'the best superhero film he'd ever seen,' I'm a bit worried about the future of DC. Hopefully, his statement was just obligatory hyperbolic marketing speak. Interestingly, I've become persona non grata on another board for, once again, highlighting the failure of DC and Sony to produce coherent genre content. Marvel may be stumbling right now, but it's still the only universe I'm remotely invested in at all. I've previously criticized Sony's epically bad decision to start a Spider-Man centric shared universe without Spider-Man, and I believe I was right. Those movies will likely be relegated to the scrap heap of genre history if they haven't already. If not for the "Spider-Verse", they'd be done.
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Post by Merv on Jun 22, 2023 17:14:03 GMT 1
Hey Stephen King and Tom Cruise said it.... The Flash is cinema.... Now we wait for Scorsese. I’d rather rewatch the Flash than the Irishman. Tell Marty I said Hello!
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