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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 1:34:17 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on May 29, 2020 6:57:32 GMT 1
Man of Steel is typical Snyder. Looks awesome but it is a shitty story.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2020 6:59:41 GMT 1
No, because it was just them being lazy and not understanding the character of Superman.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 29, 2020 10:22:09 GMT 1
The only thing I liked about that movie was Faora (Antje Traue).
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Post by AQUA JAMES! on May 29, 2020 23:26:43 GMT 1
I like the film, but I’m kind of in the middle on this. While there are many haters for this film, it also has a strong fan base. So, very divisive. I guess I’ll lean towards it being underrated, since I by no means think it’s overrated.
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Post by Jayman on May 30, 2020 1:47:37 GMT 1
I kinda thought it was a solid movie, but for a superman reboot type of thing it should be great. but it fell a little short. I remember thinking after the movie was over that the character development just wasn't there and that I felt like I did not get to know any of these characters.
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Post by Nightman on Jun 9, 2020 14:42:32 GMT 1
Yes, but it isn't as good as Batman v Superman.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2020 10:32:15 GMT 1
Yes, but it isn't as good as Batman v Superman. Jesus thats hard a choice. Like choosing between a mouse trap and a slap to the face. Although with the mouse trap you might get some cheese
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Post by charzhino on Jun 11, 2020 14:26:16 GMT 1
The only thing I liked about that movie was Faora (Antje Traue). not even the opening on Krypton?
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Post by Nightman on Jun 11, 2020 15:50:51 GMT 1
Yes, but it isn't as good as Batman v Superman. Jesus thats hard a choice. Like choosing between a mouse trap and a slap to the face. Although with the mouse trap you might get some cheese How dare you. Batman v Superman was almost a masterpiece. Only almost because of, you know, MARTHA.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 11, 2020 23:13:00 GMT 1
The only thing I liked about that movie was Faora (Antje Traue). not even the opening on Krypton? Well, I thought it was at least slightly more interesting than the rest of the movie. Still, the only time I really cared about what was happening onscreen was whenever Faora showed up.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 13, 2020 2:28:13 GMT 1
No, it is rated exactly as it should be. This film has so much forced plot its unreal, from Lois being shoved around wherever, the often nonsensical atmosphere plot which is really just a kryptonite substitute, to the dreadful construction of tornadocide which uses every excuse imaginable to get John in a place he could die, and then the final battle which completely fails to build towards any necessary death and then just does the death anyway. This film is so sophomoric that it’s amazing it’s not an outright disaster. John clearly can’t get over it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2020 3:20:29 GMT 1
Jesus thats hard a choice. Like choosing between a mouse trap and a slap to the face. Although with the mouse trap you might get some cheese How dare you. Batman v Superman was almost a masterpiece. Only almost because of, you know, MARTHA. WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
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Post by miike80 on Jun 13, 2020 6:59:31 GMT 1
No, I don't think it's underrated. And probably I hated the Krypton opening just as much as the ending. I'll take BVS with all it's flaws anyday
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2020 9:19:04 GMT 1
No, I don't think it's underrated. And probably I hated the Krypton opening just as much as the ending. I'll take BVS with all it's flaws anyday Why did you hate the opening?
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Post by miike80 on Jun 15, 2020 8:17:05 GMT 1
No, I don't think it's underrated. And probably I hated the Krypton opening just as much as the ending. I'll take BVS with all it's flaws anyday Why did you hate the opening? That's something that i can see being a problem for me, and not a movie problem per se, but strongly dislike the look and design of Krypton
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 9, 2020 17:23:34 GMT 1
I started a separate thread about this, and maybe I shouldn't have, but somebody explain to me like I'm 5 how Man of Steel could be underrated when it didn't outperform The Dark World on any measurable level? Now I really love TDW, but acknowledging for a moment it's the least good MCU film, the reality is that MOS does not have a better audience reaction, has a significantly worse critical reception, and has just a 3% better box office result, which means it doesn't outperform what many consider the bottom rung of the MCU.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 9, 2020 19:57:48 GMT 1
A valiant effort on Campea's part to help vindicate the film, but he's invented a far better movie in his mind than the one that arrived in cinemas.
Man of Steel has several brilliant moments, but they're undercut by equally silly ones. Trying to rationalize them only makes you look foolish.
My biggest problem with the film is its mean-spirited undercurrent. It has a testosterone-driven barbarism that was pervasive in comic books where Superman was obliged to fly really fast, yell at the top of his lungs, and destroy everything in sight. As the comic books' villains became more and more demented and savage, the writers forced Superman to meet them at their level.
Fanboys ate it up every time Superman "cut loose" on a "fool." Setting his face in deep shadow with his eyes lit up in red was an often-used trope in these comic books. It was frankly embarrassing to watch the naked revenge fantasies of writers and artists who'd obviously been bullied as children unfold on the panel. Using Superman as an outlet for puerile rage... Tsk tsk...
Man of Steel created a clear delineation between two very different Supermen - The Man of Tomorrow and The so-called Man of Steel. I prefer the former — a Superman who is searching and intelligent — a Superman who is confident and assured in his belief in himself and humanity. Even when it is cripplingly challenging to be that Superman, he finds a way. That's what Superman does, and that is something I can get behind.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 14:09:29 GMT 1
A valiant effort on Campea's part to help vindicate the film, but he's invented a far better movie in his mind than the one that arrived in cinemas. Man of Steel has several brilliant moments, but they're undercut by equally silly ones. Trying to rationalize them only makes you look foolish. My biggest problem with the film is its mean-spirited undercurrent. It has a testosterone-driven barbarism that was pervasive in comic books where Superman was obliged to fly really fast, yell at the top of his lungs, and destroy everything in sight. As the comic books' villains became more and more demented and savage, the writers forced Superman to meet them at their level. Fanboys ate it up every time Superman "cut loose" on a "fool." Setting his face in deep shadow with his eyes lit up in red was an often-used trope in these comic books. It was frankly embarrassing to watch the naked revenge fantasies of writers and artists who'd obviously been bullied as children unfold on the panel. Using Superman as an outlet for puerile rage... Tsk tsk... Man of Steel created a clear delineation between two very different Supermen - The Man of Tomorrow and The so-called Man of Steel. I prefer the former — a Superman who is searching and intelligent — a Superman who is confident and assured in his belief in himself and humanity. Even when it is cripplingly challenging to be that Superman, he finds a way. That's what Superman does, and that is something I can get behind. Still have no idea why they ran with a serious Superman spin. That's Batman's shtick. I mean sure, no doubt the dark knight trilogy was very successful but pick up a Superman comic. Have a look at Smallville, justice league cartoon and animated features etc. Nolan mightve been still too powerful back then and Snyder wasnt really a great choice to begin with either- I mean look at his previous work. Yeah Watchmen was about superheroes too but the spectrum of his other work...
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jul 11, 2020 22:10:55 GMT 1
A valiant effort on Campea's part to help vindicate the film, but he's invented a far better movie in his mind than the one that arrived in cinemas. Man of Steel has several brilliant moments, but they're undercut by equally silly ones. Trying to rationalize them only makes you look foolish. My biggest problem with the film is its mean-spirited undercurrent. It has a testosterone-driven barbarism that was pervasive in comic books where Superman was obliged to fly really fast, yell at the top of his lungs, and destroy everything in sight. As the comic books' villains became more and more demented and savage, the writers forced Superman to meet them at their level. Fanboys ate it up every time Superman "cut loose" on a "fool." Setting his face in deep shadow with his eyes lit up in red was an often-used trope in these comic books. It was frankly embarrassing to watch the naked revenge fantasies of writers and artists who'd obviously been bullied as children unfold on the panel. Using Superman as an outlet for puerile rage... Tsk tsk... Man of Steel created a clear delineation between two very different Supermen - The Man of Tomorrow and The so-called Man of Steel. I prefer the former — a Superman who is searching and intelligent — a Superman who is confident and assured in his belief in himself and humanity. Even when it is cripplingly challenging to be that Superman, he finds a way. That's what Superman does, and that is something I can get behind. Still have no idea why they ran with a serious Superman spin. That's Batman's shtick. I mean sure, no doubt the dark knight trilogy was very successful but pick up a Superman comic. Have a look at Smallville, justice league cartoon and animated features etc. Nolan mightve been still too powerful back then and Snyder wasnt really a great choice to begin with either- I mean look at his previous work. Yeah Watchmen was about superheroes too but the spectrum of his other work... Nolan's trilogy restored lost "credibility" to the Batman franchise by being more serious and grounded. I think many filmmakers who were influenced by Nolan's work took that to mean that the entire CBM genre needed that same treatment to be taken seriously. What always gets me about Snyder's narrative concerning his creative choices on Man of Steel is that he thinks he was making a unique and intellectually superior take on the character. In reality, he was very much catering to the popular trends of the day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 20:42:27 GMT 1
Still have no idea why they ran with a serious Superman spin. That's Batman's shtick. I mean sure, no doubt the dark knight trilogy was very successful but pick up a Superman comic. Have a look at Smallville, justice league cartoon and animated features etc. Nolan mightve been still too powerful back then and Snyder wasnt really a great choice to begin with either- I mean look at his previous work. Yeah Watchmen was about superheroes too but the spectrum of his other work... Nolan's trilogy restored lost "credibility" to the Batman franchise by being more serious and grounded. I think many filmmakers who were influenced by Nolan's work took that to mean that the entire CBM genre needed that same treatment to be taken seriously. What always get's me about Snyder's narrative concerning his creative choices on Man of Steel is that he thinks he was making a unique and intellectually superior take on the character. In reality, he was very much catering to the popular trends of the day. And somehow, seven years later, it just won't die.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2021 5:51:06 GMT 1
Man of Steel is typical Snyder. Looks awesome but it is a shitty story. I think it looks shitty too. I can’t stand the shaky cam.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 17:17:17 GMT 1
Man of Steel was awesome. I do not get some peoples hate for the movie. It made me interested to revisit Superman. Lets be honest,you can not complain it was anymore silly than the old Superman movies. It is my top Superman movie because it made him relatable. He maybe from Krypton but he is very much human in the ways that count. How can anyone watch the terra forming scene and not get emotional? That was the moment he truly became what a hero is. Cutting between scenes of him and Perry being Superman in his own way and the music. That scene alone was worth the price of admission. This next opinion I know wont be popular but DC screwed over Henry Cavill with that abortion that was Batman vs Superman. Henry deserved a better follow up to his Man of Steel. Someone point me to the Batman vs Superman thread. I have a few things to say about that movie 😂
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 15, 2021 18:27:44 GMT 1
Absolutely! Even the controversy over Superman killing Zod was stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 18:58:16 GMT 1
Man of Steel was awesome. I do not get some peoples hate for the movie. It made me interested to revisit Superman. Lets be honest,you can not complain it was anymore silly than the old Superman movies. It is my top Superman movie because it made him relatable. He maybe from Krypton but he is very much human in the ways that count. How can anyone watch the terra forming scene and not get emotional? That was the moment he truly became what a hero is. Cutting between scenes of him and Perry being Superman in his own way and the music. That scene alone was worth the price of admission. This next opinion I know wont be popular but DC screwed over Henry Cavill with that abortion that was Batman vs Superman. Henry deserved a better follow up to his Man of Steel. Someone point me to the Batman vs Superman thread. I have a few things to say about that movie 😂 Long ago it was decided that BvS would be banned from ever having a thread for being such a lousy movie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 18:59:59 GMT 1
Absolutely! Even the controversy over Superman killing Zod was stupid. I dunno. Compare that with the ending re Bats and Ra's in Batman Begins. Even Bats didn't snap his neck lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 19:15:18 GMT 1
Man of Steel was awesome. I do not get some peoples hate for the movie. It made me interested to revisit Superman. Lets be honest,you can not complain it was anymore silly than the old Superman movies. It is my top Superman movie because it made him relatable. He maybe from Krypton but he is very much human in the ways that count. How can anyone watch the terra forming scene and not get emotional? That was the moment he truly became what a hero is. Cutting between scenes of him and Perry being Superman in his own way and the music. That scene alone was worth the price of admission. This next opinion I know wont be popular but DC screwed over Henry Cavill with that abortion that was Batman vs Superman. Henry deserved a better follow up to his Man of Steel. Someone point me to the Batman vs Superman thread. I have a few things to say about that movie 😂 Long ago it was decided that BvS would be banned from ever having a thread for being such a lousy movie 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2021 19:26:02 GMT 1
Long ago it was decided that BvS would be banned from ever having a thread for being such a lousy movie 😂😂😂 True story. ArArArchStanton spearheaded this action
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 15, 2021 22:20:00 GMT 1
Absolutely! Even the controversy over Superman killing Zod was stupid. It depends but if you mean the neck snap, that’s just flat out thoughtless writing. Here’s the core reason people talk about it. An ending should be relevant to the plot. Everything should lead up to it. It should have thematic significance. Hanz Gruber fell to his death because the setting was a tall building. Belloq was killed by the ark because that was core mcguffin. Frodo and Gollum had to face the final will of the Ring, Superman himself sent the original Zod back to the Phantom Zone, etc etc. But the neck snap means nothing. It’s just a random ending. It’s not set up. It doesn’t pay off any theme. It’s like he got all the way to filming the actual scene without thinking about how to end the fight. That’s basically been the problem with most of their films. Things just happen for no thematic purpose.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 15, 2021 22:20:30 GMT 1
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