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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jun 27, 2023 4:48:54 GMT 1
Would you be in favor of one as it seems like the MCU as of late has been getting mixed reactions?
Hard reboot, soft reboot or stay the course?
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jun 27, 2023 4:49:36 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 27, 2023 4:54:59 GMT 1
Would you be in favor of one as it seems like the MCU as of late has been getting mixed reactions? Hard reboot, soft reboot or stay the course? All three at once, just to leave audiences irrevocably confused.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 27, 2023 4:56:56 GMT 1
Would you be in favor of one as it seems like the MCU as of late has been getting mixed reactions? Hard reboot, soft reboot or stay the course? well they have to stay the course for now to finish what they’ve started here, and they’re still pulling solid reviews and box office. There’s no reason to stop now. But there will eventually come a point where it’s run it’s course for sure and I’d hope they take some time off and reboot after that.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 27, 2023 4:57:38 GMT 1
Would you be in favor of one as it seems like the MCU as of late has been getting mixed reactions? Hard reboot, soft reboot or stay the course? All three at once, just to leave audiences irrevocably confused. I’ve changed my mind. This is the correct answer. And musicals too. At random.
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Post by primemcgee on Jun 27, 2023 4:58:46 GMT 1
I would say just give it the boot.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 27, 2023 6:12:06 GMT 1
The MCU should not go for a reboot. Over the years, they've built a rich, interconnected universe with complex and beloved characters. A reboot would mean starting over from scratch, wiping out years of character development and intricate plotlines that fans have followed and cherished.
When you think about it, what would a reboot actually achieve? Would it bring something new not already offered by the existing movies and series? The MCU has mastered introducing new characters and storylines without disturbing the established continuity. A reboot seems unnecessary and redundant.
If the MCU reached a point where a reboot is considered the only viable option, they would be better off wrapping up the franchise altogether. A graceful conclusion would be more respectful to the universe they've built and the fans who've supported them rather than rebooting and risking the potential backlash from a disappointed fanbase.
It's worth noting that the recent issues plaguing the MCU are more quality control related than anything else. Instead of a reboot, the MCU needs to take a step back and focus on addressing these issues. This might involve emphasizing script quality, character development consistency, production values, or even heaven forbid, slowing down the pipeline.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jun 27, 2023 8:16:07 GMT 1
All three at once, just to leave audiences irrevocably confused. I’ve changed my mind. This is the correct answer. And musicals too. At random. F musicals! NOOOOO!
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 27, 2023 10:39:30 GMT 1
Maybe the Multiverse Saga will end with a full on reboot?
Plot twist: Ezra Miller gets revealed as the new Tony Stark in Secret Wars post credit scene!
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Post by Merv on Jun 27, 2023 10:45:30 GMT 1
Against a hard reboot because I don’t see the point at the moment. The passing of the mantle is honestly a kind of soft reboot to me. Especially with so many characters passing the torch in phase 4. People may not love the decisions that were made but any kind of a hard reboot is going to be made with the same team so I wouldn’t expect a totally different approach.
If and when they do reboot I hope it’s after a long enough time to warrant excitement again.
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Post by Merv on Jun 27, 2023 10:49:49 GMT 1
I’d also add the difference between this and a DC reboot is that I think audiences, especially comic fans, see how much the DCEU left on the table and how clunky and mismanaged that film ‘series’ was and they acknowledge that there’s a ton of room for improvement.
I don’t think the same could be said of the MCU.
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Post by charzhino on Jun 27, 2023 14:46:28 GMT 1
Full Reboot. End the cycle before it withers like a corpse.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 27, 2023 15:05:16 GMT 1
Would you be in favor of one as it seems like the MCU as of late has been getting mixed reactions? Hard reboot, soft reboot or stay the course? Seems to me the MCU has picked one of the DCEU's worst traits: impatience. If a reboot of the MCU were to happen in the near future, you can bet they'd rush their do-over to catch up with the new DCU. This is the last thing they need to be doing. Why do away with everything (both what worked and what didn't work) instead of just fixing what didn't work? Starting from scratch is not the answer.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 27, 2023 15:38:40 GMT 1
Honestly it probably wouldn't hurt for them to slowdown a bit.
unfortunately that probably won't happen because 1. Disney wants to milk the Marvel brand for as much as they can and 2. A lot of fans don't have patience anymore and hate waiting. The discourse over Fantastic Four reboot is a prime example of it.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 27, 2023 15:42:49 GMT 1
I dont see the need. The MCU is still great.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 27, 2023 16:51:40 GMT 1
I wouldn't be against it.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Jun 27, 2023 21:13:35 GMT 1
I wouldn't mind a bit if they tried the "Batman approach" with certain characters.
I would happily pay to see a new Captain America film, in a separate continuity, with a new actor.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jun 27, 2023 22:36:18 GMT 1
I wouldn't mind a bit if they tried the "Batman approach" with certain characters. I would happily pay to see a new Captain America film, in a separate continuity, with a new actor. Ah, so like a reboot.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 27, 2023 23:30:55 GMT 1
Honestly it probably wouldn't hurt for them to slowdown a bit. unfortunately that probably won't happen because 1. Disney wants to milk the Marvel brand for as much as they can and 2. A lot of fans don't have patience anymore and hate waiting. The discourse over Fantastic Four reboot is a prime example of it.Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 27, 2023 23:54:26 GMT 1
Honestly it probably wouldn't hurt for them to slowdown a bit. unfortunately that probably won't happen because 1. Disney wants to milk the Marvel brand for as much as they can and 2. A lot of fans don't have patience anymore and hate waiting. The discourse over Fantastic Four reboot is a prime example of it.Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet. This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 28, 2023 0:53:39 GMT 1
Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet. This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I cannot agree with that. I understand why you feel that way, but there are simply too many people working the film industry for us to be able to know if there is or isn't anyone who can pull it off. I guarantee you right now there are. As to whether or not they will be chosen is another matter.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 28, 2023 2:03:12 GMT 1
This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I cannot agree with that. I understand why you feel that way, but there are simply too many people working the film industry for us to be able to know if there is or isn't anyone who can pull it off. I guarantee you right now there are. As to whether or not they will be chosen is another matter.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 28, 2023 2:09:04 GMT 1
Honestly it probably wouldn't hurt for them to slowdown a bit. unfortunately that probably won't happen because 1. Disney wants to milk the Marvel brand for as much as they can and 2. A lot of fans don't have patience anymore and hate waiting. The discourse over Fantastic Four reboot is a prime example of it.Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet. The last attempt at a Fantastic Four movie was in 2015. Marvel Studios has to get this right. If that means it has to take 10-20 years to get a good Fantastic Four movie, then so be it. I rather they take their time and do it right then rush it out and for it to be another bad Fantastic Four film. The FF ip can't take another bad hit. If it does, the ip is finished.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 28, 2023 2:34:12 GMT 1
Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet. The last attempt at a Fantastic Four movie was in 2015. Marvel Studios has to get this right. If that means it has to take 10-20 years to get a good Fantastic Four movie, then so be it. I rather they take their time and do it right then rush it out and for it to be another bad Fantastic Four film. The FF ip can't take another bad hit. If it does, the ip is finished. Well, I'd like some kind of indication that it is getting top priority like that.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jun 28, 2023 3:31:00 GMT 1
I don't think it needs one. If it stays its course I'll catch up eventually. I only see them when I want to see them. The first 3 phases were like a decade long arc that I wanted to stay up to date in. I haven't been as invested as I was since Endgame, but if the MCU is good then it'll be good whether I watch it tomorrow or next year. It's all I really care about. I'm self-centered. I don't care at all about ratings or box office.
Not sure how they'll start swinging again. Stay the course makes the most sense to me. They're not on the meteoric rise but they're not suffering either. I think they should just stick to shows on Disney + for a while. Get the public thirsty again.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Jun 28, 2023 3:33:44 GMT 1
Five years before getting even a single word of news is not the fans becoming impatient. That's just Marvel Studios dragging their feet. This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I'd say Russos or Whedon. I think Whedon has been gone long enough to make a comeback Others are Matthew Vaughn or James Mangold. Even Taika if someone reigns him in
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jun 28, 2023 3:52:04 GMT 1
This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I'd say Russos or Whedon. I think Whedon has been gone long enough to make a comeback I was just saying to AQUA RAPTOR! that it's too bad Whedon was 'cancelled', as he knew how to do weird family dynamics well (several of his shows I've watched have had such dynamics). He also knew how to balance comedy/drama well, I think.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 28, 2023 4:22:00 GMT 1
This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I cannot agree with that. I understand why you feel that way, but there are simply too many people working the film industry for us to be able to know if there is or isn't anyone who can pull it off. I guarantee you right now there are. As to whether or not they will be chosen is another matter. I completely understand your disbelief, but I'm telling you that if the Fantastic Four movie development continues as is, the result will be an unprecedented disappointment in the MCU canon and a further detriment to the already-troubled Fantastic Four brand. Adam Driver and Margot Robbie, potentially playing Reed Richards and Sue Storm, would be distracting. Instead of seeing the characters from the comics, we may end up only seeing these Hollywood stars in their stead. Many fans treat this upcoming Fantastic Four film as just another Marvel movie that the studio can quickly churn out in the "shake and bake" comic book movie style. The creative process will be compromised in their hurry to satiate audiences' appetite for more content. Making the next Fantastic Four film should be a labor of love that takes as long as it needs to take. The Fantastic Four brand is STILL in crisis; it should be treated as if it were in the CBM ICU.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 28, 2023 4:26:23 GMT 1
This is going to hurt… It hurt me, and it will hurt you… IMNSHO… there is no talent, in front of or behind the camera, working in Hollywood today that is good enough to make a proper Fantastic Four movie. It's true. Based on who they're rumored to have now --- it's going to be just another mid genre film. Mark my deadly words. A Fantastic Four film needs to operate on a whole new level of special effects, story and performance. The Fantastic Four is Marvel's next best shot for a flagship franchise (despite the protestations of thirsty X-Men fans). My message to Marvel… stop the fan casting by proxy, drop the one hit wonder boy/girl directors, get Cameron to consult on an immaculate FX pipeline… just cut the shit, and go big or go back to the negative zone. I'd say Russos or Whedon. I think Whedon has been gone long enough to make a comeback Others are Matthew Vaughn or James Mangold. Even Taika if someone reigns him in I pick Whedon just because of how many people that'd piss off.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jun 28, 2023 4:27:24 GMT 1
I'd say Russos or Whedon. I think Whedon has been gone long enough to make a comeback I was just saying to AQUA RAPTOR! that it's too bad Whedon was 'cancelled', as he knew how to do weird family dynamics well (several of his shows I've watched have had such dynamics). He also knew how to balance comedy/drama well, I think. He did. In his heyday, stuff like the Fantastic Four would have been a snap for him.
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