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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2022 0:28:54 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 2, 2022 0:32:30 GMT 1
I hate it, too. The changes are usually unjustified and driven by the vanity of failed hacks and ignorant executives.
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Post by Merv on Nov 11, 2022 22:13:38 GMT 1
Kind of depends on what specifically we’re talking about. In general I’d prefer as few changes as possible but in some situations the changes are an improvement or actually necessary.
Obviously if you change enough then the adaptation becomes in name only.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 12, 2022 6:25:21 GMT 1
Im fine with changes as long as it serves a purpose or improves a story. Authors are not perfect. A great example is the change Peter Jackson made to Faramir. Tolkien made an ilogical choice on TTT to make a man untemptable by the ring. That stripped the ring of all its power. By changing that part and make Faramir realise Frodo was on his side and that side was not his father's they vastly improved the story.
In the case of GOT... That show was made too soon. They should have waited for Martin to finish his series. That was artrocious.
In case of the MCU... Its Marvel itsself that makes the changes. And its a good thing. Otherwise the movies wouldnt be interesting for the actual fans of comics.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2022 8:48:04 GMT 1
Screenwriters, directors, and producers strip out a lot of the inherent drama in comic books just to put their stamp on something or to meet arbitrary commercial demands.
Coogler has made many thoughtful changes to Marvel lore in Wakanda Forever that work well because they have the same symbolic and thematic meaning as the source. He went deep and chose to modernize rather than lobotomize.
The biggest problem with Black Adam is that the Rock could have been playing any generic anti-hero outside of the tangential connection to the wizard. Black Adam's status as a fallen and corrupted champion in the comic books is compelling. Replacing that with a brain-dead son-to-father power transfer was dumb. Very, dialed down and superficial adaptation…
Writer's aren't infallible, but there is a reason we liked their stories to begin with - why go out of your way to undermine that?
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Post by Merv on Nov 12, 2022 22:12:12 GMT 1
Screenwriters, directors, and producers strip out a lot of the inherent drama in comic books just to put their stamp on something or to meet arbitrary commercial demands. Coogler has made many thoughtful changes to Marvel lore in Wakanda Forever that work well because they have the same symbolic and thematic meaning as the source. He went deep and chose to modernize rather than lobotomize. The biggest problem with Black Adam is that the Rock could have been playing any generic anti-hero outside of the tangential connection to the wizard. Black Adam's status as a fallen and corrupted champion in the comic books is compelling. Replacing that with a brain-dead son-to-father power transfer was dumb. Very, dialed down and superficial adaptation… Writer's aren't infallible, but there is a reason we liked their stories to begin with - why go out of your way to undermine that? Thats kind of the breaking point of the issue I think. If the change becomes so much that it undermines or ignores the story its based on then it feels very unsatisfying. Examples of changes to source material I didn't like... World War Z...Max Brooks novel would never work as a movie. A tv show, yes...a movie, no way. It shouldn't have been called an adaptation to the novel. It works fine as its own thing, which is exactly what it is. But for some reason it's called World War Z despite having almost nothing in common with its source material. I Am Legend...another decent movie on its own, but as an adaptation its pretty awful. The essence of the novel is the main character Neville realizing he's the last man alive and realizing that the society of the world has moved on without him and he's now the monster stalking houses during the daytime and slaughtering innocents at random. That he's become an inverse of Dracula, sort of. The Will Smith movie is fine but captures none of this imo. Examples of changes to source material I do like... Stand By Me...In the novel its Gordie who stands up to Ace and Chris who points the gun at him, in the movie they switch these and it actually works a lot better. Its a small change but to each of their character arcs it feels bigger. The Mist....the novel ends abruptly without a known fate to the car full of people. As bleak and tragic as the movie ending is, Id much rather it have that closure.
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 13, 2022 6:51:28 GMT 1
They love the money they make by selling their stories to Hollywood.
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