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Post by Lord Death Man on May 26, 2022 16:32:50 GMT 1
…with a massive grain of salt please.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 26, 2022 18:18:40 GMT 1
I could see this happening. I doubt we saw the last of her in Doctor Strange 2 and Olsen has already gone on record that she wants to keep playing the character for as long as Marvel lets her.
So yeah, bring it on.
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 26, 2022 18:31:47 GMT 1
Intriguing...
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 26, 2022 22:43:34 GMT 1
…with a massive grain of salt please.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2022 14:15:55 GMT 1
Damn it. I still need to see Doc Strange 2. Hopefully I can after next week-feels like an eternity. Had to miss my last hospital appt as I caught a bug which I still havent fully recovered from. Damn you late Autumn! Damn you!
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 27, 2022 15:08:37 GMT 1
Damn it. I still need to see Doc Strange 2. Hopefully I can after next week-feels like an eternity. Had to miss my last hospital appt as I caught a bug which I still havent fully recovered from. Damn you late Autumn! Damn you! And Autumn apologises for its lateness.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 28, 2022 2:26:53 GMT 1
…with a massive grain of salt please. Im really surprised by the number of people who thought she died. I didn’t get that at all and furthermore I don’t think such an unclear death would be how any of these characters go out. It will be absolutely clear when it happens.
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 29, 2022 1:23:25 GMT 1
I think that particular announcement is from a copycat DiscussingFilm account. So it could be fake.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 29, 2022 1:37:47 GMT 1
I think that particular announcement is from a copycat DiscussingFilm account. So it could be fake.
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Post by Merv on May 29, 2022 15:00:47 GMT 1
I would be fine with it...especially if its a redemption arc.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 1, 2022 12:25:20 GMT 1
I would be fine with it...especially if its a redemption arc. That seems to be a common sentiment and I can’t disagree, but I have been advising, given the nature of this character, I’m expecting more crazy instead of redemption. I’m not even sure she’ll ever be redeemed and I suspect she’ll play some role in however mutants come into play.
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Post by Merv on Jun 1, 2022 18:56:55 GMT 1
I would be fine with it...especially if its a redemption arc. That seems to be a common sentiment and I can’t disagree, but I have been advising, given the nature of this character, I’m expecting more crazy instead of redemption. I’m not even sure she’ll ever be redeemed and I suspect she’ll play some role in however mutants come into play. To be clear Im on board for more Scarlet Witch no matter what the storyline.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Jun 1, 2022 20:06:31 GMT 1
Not going to lie, i wouldn't mind her continuing a villain arc. Still hoping we can get a big House of M moment from her in the films.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 1, 2022 20:22:00 GMT 1
The Scarlet Witch is the new Black Widow. Marvel has to fast track a solo film for her, before no one gives a shit anymore.
And the comics need to reverse that spiteful, and vindictive garbage retcon where she and her brother are not the children of Erik Lensherr.
We have all of the toys now, there is no need to divorce them from their mutant heritage.
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 3, 2023 16:52:31 GMT 1
"Do you miss Marvel, and should we expect you in “Agatha All Along?” I think I answered a question wrong. Someone asked me if I would be “returning,” and they said, for instance, “are we going to see you in ‘this thing.'” And I said, “Well, I hope I’m returning.” I’m not “returning” to anything right now. I’m not doing anything for Marvel. Nothing, and it’s not that I’m trying to be cheeky. They’ll let me know when they’ll let me know. And do I miss it? I don’t miss it. I just did two years straight of it. I think the break’s been good for me. I need to build other characters. It’s important for me. I’m grateful for this show [“Love & Death”] because it came at a great time — after playing Wanda for two years straight, and then I had to talk about it for another year. So it’s nice having something else to focus on and highlight. variety.com/2023/tv/awards/elizabeth-olsen-love-and-death-sex-scenes-marvel-movie-break-1235595650/
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2023 21:54:05 GMT 1
It really sounds like she doesn’t enjoy playing Wanda all that much- at least in terms of the massive obligation. I don’t see her staying around long term. She probably does the next Avengers and then walks.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 3, 2023 22:55:06 GMT 1
The Scarlet Witch is the new Black Widow. Marvel has to fast track a solo film for her, before no one gives a shit anymore. I'll always give a shit about Scarlet Witch (far more than anyone else still left in the MCU). It really sounds like she doesn’t enjoy playing Wanda all that much- at least in terms of the massive obligation. I don’t see her staying around long term. Given the way they treated her character...I don't blame her. She probably does the next Avengers and then walks.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 3, 2023 23:50:15 GMT 1
The Scarlet Witch is the new Black Widow. Marvel has to fast track a solo film for her, before no one gives a shit anymore. I'll always give a shit about Scarlet Witch (far more than anyone else still left in the MCU). It really sounds like she doesn’t enjoy playing Wanda all that much- at least in terms of the massive obligation. I don’t see her staying around long term. Given the way they treated her character...I don't blame her. She probably does the next Avengers and then walks. The cult of Lizzy is baffling on every level. Worshipping a trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick. Wanda idolatry has become synonymous with liz-o-philia. They are two different people. You're robbing this woman of a future in her chosen career. Her - as in Liz's - new HBO series, which by all accounts is excellent, is being virtually ignored - because it isn't about Wanda. Please remember that despite this scathing critique - Death Man loves you.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 4, 2023 0:41:09 GMT 1
I'll always give a shit about Scarlet Witch (far more than anyone else still left in the MCU). Given the way they treated her character...I don't blame her. The cult of Lizzy is baffling on every level. Worshipping a trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick. Wanda idolatry has become synonymous with liz-o-philia. They are two different people. You're robbing this woman of a future in her chosen career. Her - as in Liz's - new HBO series, which by all accounts is excellent, is being virtually ignored - because it isn't about Wanda. Please remember that despite this scathing critique - Death Man loves you. Did I say anything about her new show? No. I watched her last series, Sorry For Your Loss, and was bummed that it got cancelled. If her new show's ever released here on DVD, I'll certainly be checking it out. Not sure where you got the idea it's being 'ignored'. I find it interesting that you declare being a fan of a character as 'worship' when I've seen more than enough 'worship' of other MCU characters on here and elsewhere...yet that's considered 'fine'. I've seen you yourself 'worship' certain directors. 'A trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick' - not as sick as how dismissive that description of her character is (and how tired/unimaginative the word 'bitch' has become for describing female characters). 'liz-o-philia' - how classy of you. People are allowed to be upset about Elizabeth Olsen not wishing to continue with her MCU character without being against her wishing to pursue other projects and most certainly without the need to be insulted.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 4, 2023 1:49:25 GMT 1
The cult of Lizzy is baffling on every level. Worshipping a trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick. Wanda idolatry has become synonymous with liz-o-philia. They are two different people. You're robbing this woman of a future in her chosen career. Her - as in Liz's - new HBO series, which by all accounts is excellent, is being virtually ignored - because it isn't about Wanda. Please remember that despite this scathing critique - Death Man loves you. Did I say anything about her new show? No. I watched her last series, Sorry For Your Loss, and was bummed that it got cancelled. If her new show's ever released here on DVD, I'll certainly be checking it out. Not sure where you got the idea it's being 'ignored'. I find it interesting that you declare being a fan of a character as 'worship' when I've seen more than enough 'worship' of other MCU characters on here and elsewhere...yet that's considered 'fine'. I've seen you yourself 'worship' certain directors. 'A trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick' - not as sick as how dismissive that description of her character is (and how tired/unimaginative the word 'bitch' has become for describing female characters). 'liz-o-philia' - how classy of you. People are allowed to be upset about Elizabeth Olsen not wishing to continue with her MCU character without being against her wishing to pursue other projects and most certainly without the need to be insulted. The typecasting will be bad for her - like Bill Shatner/Captain Kirk-level bad if she doesn't cut ties with the MCU soon. Wanda mania is like rap music; it's out of control. People think Elizabeth Olsen is actually a sorceress. I'm okay if we don't get any more Wanda for a while because I absolutely hate that this character is the poster-witch for trauma. I say enough with the trauma mama games already. This is like reading a college admissions essay written by Tony Montana. "First you gotta get de infinity stone. Si? Den - after you get the stone - den, you get da powers. Si? Den, after you get the powers, you study de black magic and looze both you kids. Den, and only den, will people respect you." The character has to be more than a well-dressed emotional abuse victim.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on May 4, 2023 12:53:15 GMT 1
Did I say anything about her new show? No. I watched her last series, Sorry For Your Loss, and was bummed that it got cancelled. If her new show's ever released here on DVD, I'll certainly be checking it out. Not sure where you got the idea it's being 'ignored'. I find it interesting that you declare being a fan of a character as 'worship' when I've seen more than enough 'worship' of other MCU characters on here and elsewhere...yet that's considered 'fine'. I've seen you yourself 'worship' certain directors. 'A trauma bitch disguised as an empowerment queen playing a superhero is sick' - not as sick as how dismissive that description of her character is (and how tired/unimaginative the word 'bitch' has become for describing female characters). 'liz-o-philia' - how classy of you. People are allowed to be upset about Elizabeth Olsen not wishing to continue with her MCU character without being against her wishing to pursue other projects and most certainly without the need to be insulted. The typecasting will be bad for her - like Bill Shatner/Captain Kirk-level bad if she doesn't cut ties with the MCU soon. Wanda mania is like rap music; it's out of control. People think Elizabeth Olsen is actually a sorceress. I'm okay if we don't get any more Wanda for a while because I absolutely hate that this character is the poster-witch for trauma. I say enough with the trauma mama games already. This is like reading a college admissions essay written by Tony Montana. "First you gotta get de infinity stone. Si? Den - after you get the stone - den, you get da powers. Si? Den, after you get the powers, you study de black magic and looze both you kids. Den, and only den, will people respect you." The character has to be more than a well-dressed emotional abuse victim. How do you feel about Polaris (she also featured prominently in the show called The Gifted), her half-sister in the comics? Or is it just the mcu version of Wanda you dont really care for? I wanda if Wonder Man is still moving forward and Wanda is also key there
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 4, 2023 15:53:31 GMT 1
The typecasting will be bad for her - like Bill Shatner/Captain Kirk-level bad if she doesn't cut ties with the MCU soon. Wanda mania is like rap music; it's out of control. People think Elizabeth Olsen is actually a sorceress. I'm okay if we don't get any more Wanda for a while because I absolutely hate that this character is the poster-witch for trauma. I say enough with the trauma mama games already. This is like reading a college admissions essay written by Tony Montana. "First you gotta get de infinity stone. Si? Den - after you get the stone - den, you get da powers. Si? Den, after you get the powers, you study de black magic and looze both you kids. Den, and only den, will people respect you." The character has to be more than a well-dressed emotional abuse victim. How do you feel about Polaris (she also featured prominently in the show called The Gifted), her half-sister in the comics? Or is it just the mcu version of Wanda you dont really care for? I wanda if Wonder Man is still moving forward and Wanda is also key there I love Wanda. I really do. I just don't love seeing her rendered as the ongoing victim of abuse and trauma. She's gathered an enormous following of fans that insist that people are and should be defined by the bad things that happen in their lives. That's boring and lazy. Wanda Maximoff deserves to be a hero - with an android husband and (imaginary) kids.
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Post by Merv on May 4, 2023 22:40:34 GMT 1
How do you feel about Polaris (she also featured prominently in the show called The Gifted), her half-sister in the comics? Or is it just the mcu version of Wanda you dont really care for? I wanda if Wonder Man is still moving forward and Wanda is also key there I love Wanda. I really do. I just don't love seeing her rendered as the ongoing victim of abuse and trauma. She's gathered an enormous following of fans that insist that people are and should be defined by the bad things that happen in their lives. That's boring and lazy. Wanda Maximoff deserves to be a hero - with an android husband and (imaginary) kids. I agree that Wanda the hero is a great character. I do think a big part of her character...at least in the last 20 years or so...is her mental health issues tho. I wouldve been fine if they pushed her decent into madness a little further along the timeline to give her and Vision more time to grow but I would have always been waiting for that "Avengers Disassembled/House of M" moment from her character. I do hope Olsen isn't totally done with the MCU tho because I would personally love a redemption arc and happy ending for the character. The Childrens Crusade storyline would be a fine one to introduce/develop most of the Young Avengers and give Wanda and Vision that closure. But if Olsen is done I'll still watch her in whatever else she does. I've enjoyed her since the Oldboy remake and really liked her in Wind River as well. I do think her role as Wanda is her best acting at the moment but she's had several films to fine tune that character so that only makes sense.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 4, 2023 22:59:06 GMT 1
I love Wanda. I really do. I just don't love seeing her rendered as the ongoing victim of abuse and trauma. She's gathered an enormous following of fans that insist that people are and should be defined by the bad things that happen in their lives. That's boring and lazy. Wanda Maximoff deserves to be a hero - with an android husband and (imaginary) kids. I agree that Wanda the hero is a great character. I do think a big part of her character...at least in the last 20 years or so...is her mental health issues tho. I wouldve been fine if they pushed her decent into madness a little further along the timeline to give her and Vision more time to grow but I would have always been waiting for that "Avengers Disassembled/House of M" moment from her character. I do hope Olsen isn't totally done with the MCU tho because I would personally love a redemption arc and happy ending for the character. The Childrens Crusade storyline would be a fine one to introduce/develop most of the Young Avengers and give Wanda and Vision that closure. But if Olsen is done I'll still watch her in whatever else she does. I've enjoyed her since the Oldboy remake and really liked her in Wind River as well. I do think her role as Wanda is her best acting at the moment but she's had several films to fine tune that character so that only makes sense. I completely agree with you that the breakdown was a necessary part of Wanda's character development, but it's disheartening to see her identity become so intertwined with trauma. Wanda absolutely deserves a redemption arc, if not a happy ending, to showcase her resilience and growth as a hero. It's great to hear that you appreciate Elizabeth Olsen's work. Like you, I'm a fan of her performances in various projects. It's a bit disappointing to see her other work overshadowed by her portrayal of Wanda, as she has shown incredible versatility as an actress. Some notable examples include her roles in "Martha Marcy May Marlene," "Ingrid Goes West," "Kodachrome," "Liberal Arts," "Silent House," "I Saw the Light," and "Wind River." Olsen has indeed brought depth to Wanda's character in the MCU, and I hope she continues to be a part of it, as her redemption arc could provide an excellent opportunity to introduce and develop the "New Avengers" through the Children's Crusade storyline. However, even if she does move on from the MCU, I'm confident that we'll continue to enjoy her performances in other projects.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 15, 2023 21:19:41 GMT 1
Part of me wishes we got a twist ending where Kang shows up as the main villain and kills her!
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 16, 2023 0:17:16 GMT 1
Part of me wishes we got a twist ending where Kang shows up as the main villain and kills her!
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Post by Indiana Jones on Aug 18, 2023 17:34:43 GMT 1
Maybe we'll see a variant of hers played by one of her sisters. Or both...
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Post by Merv on Aug 18, 2023 21:11:45 GMT 1
Maybe we'll see a variant of hers played by one of her sisters. Or both... The Stepford Cuckoos!
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 18, 2023 21:34:08 GMT 1
Maybe we'll see a variant of hers played by one of her sisters. Or both... If that rumor about Wanda being in Deadpool 3 is true, i actually think it would be great if one of the Olsen twins played that Wanda. There's a lot of great meta humor they can do with that.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 19, 2023 6:54:05 GMT 1
Maybe we'll see a variant of hers played by one of her sisters. Or both... If that rumor about Wanda being in Deadpool 3 is true, i actually think it would be great if one of the Olsen twins played that Wanda. There's a lot of great meta humor they can do with that.
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