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Post by Lord Death Man on May 25, 2022 15:58:24 GMT 1
Talking about this in spaces where people are enthusiastic about the MCU and obsess over every minor detail, it would seem that the golden age of the MCU is indeed over. From what I gather, it started with Captain America: The Winter Soldier right up until Avengers: Endgame (or Avengers: Infinity War if you're hardcore).
While still financially and critically successful, "everything after Endgame doesn't seem to have the same magic" is a popular refrain.
The Disney+ shows haven't helped; all but the most loyal to the fandom have found them to be an excessive chore or, at best, optional content that isn't valuable or essential. MCU fans are either divided, fatigued, or confused by the Marvel shows in the best-case scenario.
Many have left the fandom, considering Endgame a good stopping point. Some have declared Thor: Love and Thunder to be their last film before exiting the fandom. Still, others like myself are waiting for Wakanda Forever to make final decisions.
Discussions over the sustainability of the franchise are varied and heated. It would seem that the fellowship is breaking apart.
I don't think this impacts a space like Sakaar, which is more of a social club than a hub for MCU fandom, but, still, what do you think? Is it time for Disney to put the beast to rest and hunker down for the inevitable reboot? Or, can they do this all day?
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Post by Merv on May 25, 2022 19:04:06 GMT 1
I actually did step away from the MCU for a bit and I think it helped reignite my interest when I came back. I went from Endgame to No Way Home without watching any of the content in between until after. April 2019-December 2021. I was perfectly content at the time with Endgame being my exit off the hershey-Marvel highway. But then No Way Home looked fun, I signed up for Disney + and the excitement and interest was rejuvenated.
I definitely recommend if you're feeling burned out or not quite interested in the MCU as a whole to just take a break from it. Find some other movies or tv shows to obsess over for a bit and then come back down the line whenever something catches your eye. I want people to realize it doesn't have to be an all or nothing arrangement...especially now when the films they put out are rather diverse and not obviously linked together.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 25, 2022 19:29:17 GMT 1
I actually did step away from the MCU for a bit and I think it helped reignite my interest when I came back. I went from Endgame to No Way Home without watching any of the content in between until after. April 2019-December 2021. I was perfectly content at the time with Endgame being my exit off the hershey-Marvel highway. But then No Way Home looked fun, I signed up for Disney + and the excitement and interest was rejuvenated. I definitely recommend if you're feeling burned out or not quite interested in the MCU as a whole to just take a break from it. Find some other movies or tv shows to obsess over for a bit and then come back down the line whenever something catches your eye. I want people to realize it doesn't have to be an all or nothing arrangement...especially now when the films they put out are rather diverse and not obviously linked together. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm genuinely hoping that the MCU ramps down and becomes more of a specialty fandom in the coming years - sort of like Star Trek. While controversial, I think a move out of theaters and exclusively onto Disney+ could be a way forward for the franchise after it bottoms out. People vote with their wallets for the content on subscription-based services. It's more direct and transactional and relies less on middlemen (exhibitors, commentators, foreign countries, etc.) and having to please 4 quadrant audiences. The genre will always appeal to enthusiasts, but casuals and trend followers eventually drift away regardless of quality.
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Post by Merv on May 25, 2022 20:35:43 GMT 1
I actually did step away from the MCU for a bit and I think it helped reignite my interest when I came back. I went from Endgame to No Way Home without watching any of the content in between until after. April 2019-December 2021. I was perfectly content at the time with Endgame being my exit off the hershey-Marvel highway. But then No Way Home looked fun, I signed up for Disney + and the excitement and interest was rejuvenated. I definitely recommend if you're feeling burned out or not quite interested in the MCU as a whole to just take a break from it. Find some other movies or tv shows to obsess over for a bit and then come back down the line whenever something catches your eye. I want people to realize it doesn't have to be an all or nothing arrangement...especially now when the films they put out are rather diverse and not obviously linked together. Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm genuinely hoping that the MCU ramps down and becomes more of a specialty fandom in the coming years - sort of like Star Trek. While controversial, I think a move out of theaters and exclusively onto Disney+ could be a way forward for the franchise after it bottoms out. People vote with their wallets for the content on subscription-based services. It's more direct and transactional and relies less on middlemen (exhibitors, commentators, foreign countries, etc.) and having to please 4 quadrant audiences. The genre will always appeal to enthusiasts, but casuals and trend followers eventually drift away regardless of quality. My biggest concern with that is only in how Disney/Marvel will handle a financial decline. Once its not the golden goose it has been for years will they just chop the head off, devour the remains and leave us fans starving for something of value? We won't know until we get there but that's my biggest concern.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 25, 2022 23:22:01 GMT 1
There jsut aren't enough options here to vote for. Three seem to be 'negative' options, while that one about sticking with the MCU 'til the end is too far in the opposite direction. How about a happy medium where we don't have a problem with the MCU at the moment, but there's always the chance something they do in the future might be a turn-off? It amazes me that there are some people who, if they don't like something...then they think it should just cease altogether. Doesn't matter if others like it, all that matters is what these egotistical jerks like and their opinion is the only 'right' one as far as they're concerned. WHY is it so hard for people to understand that if they don't like certain movies in a series/franchise...they can just go back and rewatch the ones they did like and nobody's holding a gun to their head, forcing them to watch the newer ones? If there's one thing I've learned from the internet, it's that there's a great number of people who think that if they don't like something, then it shouldn't exist. Never mind that they're wanting take away something others enjoy. Clearly these folks think they're the centre of the universe. Someone needs to slap them upside the head (multiple times, if necessary) until they get that the universe doesn't revolve around them/their opinions. As for the MCU films post-Endgame so far...I enjoyed the fact that they did something 'different' with Eternals and Doctor Strange in the MoM. The worst thing you can do is just keep coasting along on the same old thing, never changing and playing it 'safe'. Sometimes 'different' can be good, and other times bad, but if you never try...how will you ever learn? I, for one, am glad they took a chance on Eternals and now I'm afraid that because it got 'mixed' reception, we'll never see anything 'different' again and it'll just keep being more of the same. If you hate change...
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 2:38:25 GMT 1
The MCU is dead. Long live the MCU!
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 26, 2022 3:47:07 GMT 1
I'm sticking around, I've liked what we've gotten out of phase 4.
Still even if I drop out, it's been a hell of a ride.
Wish I could say the same about DC or Star Wars.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2022 9:13:36 GMT 1
Till the end of the line
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Post by Merv on May 26, 2022 20:16:57 GMT 1
Looking forward to the Gamecock era of the MCU.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 26, 2022 20:43:09 GMT 1
GAMECOCK V HAWKEYE: DAWN OF COLLEGE FOOTBALL
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 26, 2022 20:53:50 GMT 1
Still even if I drop out, it's been a hell of a ride. Wish I could say the same about Star Wars. you could.... if you had dropped out in 1983
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 26, 2022 21:04:52 GMT 1
Still even if I drop out, it's been a hell of a ride. Wish I could say the same about Star Wars. you could.... if you had dropped out in 1983 That or stick with the video games and legacy comics and novels.
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Post by Merv on May 26, 2022 21:17:49 GMT 1
you could.... if you had dropped out in 1983 That or stick with the video games and legacy comics and novels. The disney shows have been an upswing in my opinion. Mandalorian and Boba Fett were more entertaining than the latest trilogy.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 26, 2022 21:27:54 GMT 1
There jsut aren't enough options here to vote for. Three seem to be 'negative' options, while that one about sticking with the MCU 'til the end is too far in the opposite direction. How about a happy medium where we don't have a problem with the MCU at the moment, but there's always the chance something they do in the future might be a turn-off? It amazes me that there are some people who, if they don't like something...then they think it should just cease altogether. Doesn't matter if others like it, all that matters is what these egotistical jerks like and their opinion is the only 'right' one as far as they're concerned. WHY is it so hard for people to understand that if they don't like certain movies in a series/franchise...they can just go back and rewatch the ones they did like and nobody's holding a gun to their head, forcing them to watch the newer ones? If there's one thing I've learned from the internet, it's that there's a great number of people who think that if they don't like something, then it shouldn't exist. Never mind that they're wanting take away something others enjoy. Clearly these folks think they're the centre of the universe. Someone needs to slap them upside the head (multiple times, if necessary) until they get that the universe doesn't revolve around them/their opinions. As for the MCU films post-Endgame so far...I enjoyed the fact that they did something 'different' with Eternals and Doctor Strange in the MoM. The worst thing you can do is just keep coasting along on the same old thing, never changing and playing it 'safe'. Sometimes 'different' can be good, and other times bad, but if you never try...how will you ever learn? I, for one, am glad they took a chance on Eternals and now I'm afraid that because it got 'mixed' reception, we'll never see anything 'different' again and it'll just keep being more of the same. If you hate change... That's fair. I can't edit the poll, but you can certainly write something like, "I'll take the MCU on a case by case basis." I agree with your assessment of the current phase. Unfortunately, deviating from the known and accepted formula seems to be a recipe for ridicule amongst casual fans.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 26, 2022 21:33:00 GMT 1
That or stick with the video games and legacy comics and novels. The disney shows have been an upswing in my opinion. Mandalorian and Boba Fett were more entertaining than the latest trilogy. I actually didn't mind Mandalorian and thought Boba Fett was okay. Hopefully these upcoming shows are good.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 27, 2022 0:09:32 GMT 1
There jsut aren't enough options here to vote for. Three seem to be 'negative' options, while that one about sticking with the MCU 'til the end is too far in the opposite direction. How about a happy medium where we don't have a problem with the MCU at the moment, but there's always the chance something they do in the future might be a turn-off? It amazes me that there are some people who, if they don't like something...then they think it should just cease altogether. Doesn't matter if others like it, all that matters is what these egotistical jerks like and their opinion is the only 'right' one as far as they're concerned. WHY is it so hard for people to understand that if they don't like certain movies in a series/franchise...they can just go back and rewatch the ones they did like and nobody's holding a gun to their head, forcing them to watch the newer ones? If there's one thing I've learned from the internet, it's that there's a great number of people who think that if they don't like something, then it shouldn't exist. Never mind that they're wanting take away something others enjoy. Clearly these folks think they're the centre of the universe. Someone needs to slap them upside the head (multiple times, if necessary) until they get that the universe doesn't revolve around them/their opinions. As for the MCU films post-Endgame so far...I enjoyed the fact that they did something 'different' with Eternals and Doctor Strange in the MoM. The worst thing you can do is just keep coasting along on the same old thing, never changing and playing it 'safe'. Sometimes 'different' can be good, and other times bad, but if you never try...how will you ever learn? I, for one, am glad they took a chance on Eternals and now I'm afraid that because it got 'mixed' reception, we'll never see anything 'different' again and it'll just keep being more of the same. If you hate change... I agree with your assessment of the current phase. Unfortunately, deviating from the known and accepted formula seems to be a recipe for ridicule amongst casual fans. And to those people I say...
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Post by ArArArchStanton on May 29, 2022 16:28:23 GMT 1
I think the MCU is hitting a period that reflects what comics actually are. Very different styles and themes where you can pick what issues you want to follow. Typically readers aren’t following every single subscription, and while you may watch every single episode of the MCU, the point here is they’re experimenting with variety which I applaud, as well as a larger universe concept where everybody doesn’t run into or know everybody else. The world feels bigger when you do this. And I love that.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 29, 2022 23:15:10 GMT 1
I think the MCU is hitting a period that reflects what comics actually are. Very different styles and themes where you can pick what issues you want to follow. Typically readers aren’t following every single subscription, and while you may watch every single episode of the MCU, the point here is they’re experimenting with variety which I applaud, as well as a larger universe concept where everybody doesn’t run into or know everybody else. The world feels bigger when you do this. And I love that. Yeah, I find it odd how there are those who complain about wanting the comic book movies to be more 'comic book accurate'...yet when these movies do things like the comics such as have various/different types of films (like you mentioned, there are comics with different styles/themes) or be expansive, with many different things going on, characters coming and going, different versions of characters, etc...people complain about that too. I think the movies are slowly reflecting what actual comics are like with SO many different options.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on May 30, 2022 4:02:48 GMT 1
If it ends, it ends. It's already accomplished what nobody else could, and ever will.
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