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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 9, 2022 20:04:38 GMT 1
First teaser
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 4, 2022 16:34:06 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Apr 4, 2022 16:35:00 GMT 1
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Apr 4, 2022 23:41:48 GMT 1
I like the music that plays for the first part of the trailer and kind of hope it ends up being the show's theme tune. It's funny seeing people complaining about the characters having a sense of humour in the trailer, like "Oh noes! If they're not they're deadly serious all of the time, it's the end of the (strange new) world!". Other than the rather obvious fact that certain characters will be pushed to the forefront and made out to be better/smarter than everyone else, this looks like something I'll actually be interested in watching. I lost interest in ST: Disco, I'm anxiously awaiting the release of ST: Picard Season 2 on DVD/Blu-ray here, and I'm hoping this show will eventually be released here too. Hopefully it doesn't disappoint like the last few seasons of Anson Mount's show, Hell on Wheels, did.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2022 7:09:15 GMT 1
Pilot is now out
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 7, 2022 8:21:04 GMT 1
Pilot from Farscape is gay??
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Post by AQUA CAT! on May 10, 2022 5:21:47 GMT 1
I just caught it on TV. I kinda liked it. I like their Pike. That actor was one of the redeeming features of The Inhumans. Hearing his voice was like whoa.
It's neat. It's got potential. It looks well cast enough too. I like their Spock so far more than the Star Trek reboot movies, which is ironic because I've seen Zachary Quinto in a few things since and he's a good actor, but I didn't like him as Spock. I like this guy better. He's notably less uptight than all other Spocks I've seen. It's working for me so far.
I'll stick around for another episode. It's sweet that they got a young Nurse Chapel in there too.
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Post by Jayman on May 10, 2022 15:47:15 GMT 1
I hear they are injecting January 6th as the start of world war 3 and other stuff with Stacey Abrams so f-ck them and this franchise and their political activism. There are no writers anymore. There are activists that have a modern day political message to get across. I wanted to get on board with the new Star Trek because I grew up loving Star Trek. But obviously their own personal political goals are what motivated them and I want no part of that. thank you for listening and I hope you all have a nice day
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 10, 2022 17:06:17 GMT 1
I hear they are injecting January 6th as the start of world war 3 and other stuff with Stacey Abrams so f-ck them and this franchise and their political activism. There are no writers anymore. There are activists that have a modern day political message to get across. I wanted to get on board with the new Star Trek because I grew up loving Star Trek. But obviously their own personal political goals are what motivated them and I want no part of that. thank you for listening and I hope you all have a nice day January 6, 2021, is not explicitly stated to be the start of World War III in the pilot for Strange New Worlds. Footage of the rioters, protestors, or tourists (whichever best fits your narrative) at the Capital on the day is shown in a montage during a monologue in which Captain Pike says, "our conflict started as s fight for freedoms. We called it the Second Civil War." Given current relations between America's two major political factions, I don't think that a second civil war is an unreasonable conjecture. In further narration, this "second civil war" was apparently followed by the Eugenics Wars. The Eugenics Wars then lead to a full-blown third World War. Pike never makes any statements about which side or idealogy started the conflict. He makes no mention of places or dates either. The string of disputes is not explicitly correlated to each other. They are presented more as a series of chronological conflicts that escalated in severity and overall death toll.
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Post by Jayman on May 10, 2022 17:26:08 GMT 1
Just the fact that that just had to be shoe-horned in speaks volumes and I know from experience that once they gave you a little Wiff of partisan politics it never stops there without the envelope being pushed further and further. That tells me they have a message to get out. The reason I vent like this is because it angers me when political activism is injected in every form of entertainment and they ruin a franchise I grew up loving. And no this is not about my personal beliefs. I am in no way interested in seeing some conservative point of view to balance it. I just want partisan politics out of my tv shows which now seems to be an impossible expectation.
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Post by Lord Death Man on May 10, 2022 18:01:17 GMT 1
Just the fact that that just had to be shoe-horned in speaks volumes and I know from experience that once they gave you a little Wiff of partisan politics it never stops there without the envelope being pushed further and further. That tells me they have a message to get out. The reason I vent like this is because it angers me when political activism is injected in every form of entertainment and they ruin a franchise I grew up loving. And no this is not about my personal beliefs. I am in no way interested in seeing some conservative point of view to balance it. I just want partisan politics out of my tv shows which now seems to be an impossible expectation. I agree that these shows would be better off without overt references to contemporary partisan political issues. I think that kind of storytelling is better handled through allegory and allusion - the way it was done in previous iterations of Star Trek. However, I do believe explicitly referencing current-day social problems is fair game for a franchise like Star Trek. The footage I referenced earlier also contained what looks like a snippet from a BLM protest and footage from another unnamed conflict. The current shepherds of the Star Trek IP are not exceptionally good custodians.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 10, 2022 23:29:17 GMT 1
Pretty standard, old school Trek.
It almost feels like they went "back to basics" after all the Discovery and Picard complaints.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 2:00:09 GMT 1
Pretty standard, old school Trek. It almost feels like they went "back to basics" after all the Discovery and Picard complaints. It does feel like that. Is this meant to be set in the past or?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 2:03:54 GMT 1
I hear they are injecting January 6th as the start of world war 3 and other stuff with Stacey Abrams so f-ck them and this franchise and their political activism. There are no writers anymore. There are activists that have a modern day political message to get across. I wanted to get on board with the new Star Trek because I grew up loving Star Trek. But obviously their own personal political goals are what motivated them and I want no part of that. thank you for listening and I hope you all have a nice day Yeah I saw Stacey Abrams being the leader of Earth or whatever. In the pilot, the stuff you mentioned was very brief but I agree keep direct modern politics out of movies and shows
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Post by Jayman on May 11, 2022 2:20:30 GMT 1
Just the fact that that just had to be shoe-horned in speaks volumes and I know from experience that once they gave you a little Wiff of partisan politics it never stops there without the envelope being pushed further and further. That tells me they have a message to get out. The reason I vent like this is because it angers me when political activism is injected in every form of entertainment and they ruin a franchise I grew up loving. And no this is not about my personal beliefs. I am in no way interested in seeing some conservative point of view to balance it. I just want partisan politics out of my tv shows which now seems to be an impossible expectation. I agree that these shows would be better off without overt references to contemporary partisan political issues. I think that kind of storytelling is better handled through allegory and allusion - the way it was done in previous iterations of Star Trek. However, I do believe explicitly referencing current-day social problems is fair game for a franchise like Star Trek. The footage I referenced earlier also contained what looks like a snippet from a BLM protest and footage from another unnamed conflict. The current shepherds of the Star Trek IP are not exceptionally good custodians. I agree I don't think all current topics should be off limits. I'm sorry but I smell a rat from a mile away when it comes to these political agendas in tv shows. Love the old war is bad, peace is great message that I grew up with. other than that, I do not trust them. It's a major red flag for me and I still want no part of it. I hope you are doing good lately Lord Death man. I know I have not been posting as much lately about sci fi or marvel, but I'll get back into it.
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Post by Jayman on May 11, 2022 2:23:24 GMT 1
I hear they are injecting January 6th as the start of world war 3 and other stuff with Stacey Abrams so f-ck them and this franchise and their political activism. There are no writers anymore. There are activists that have a modern day political message to get across. I wanted to get on board with the new Star Trek because I grew up loving Star Trek. But obviously their own personal political goals are what motivated them and I want no part of that. thank you for listening and I hope you all have a nice day Yeah I saw Stacey Abrams being the leader of Earth or whatever. In the pilot, the stuff you mentioned was very brief but I agree keep direct modern politics out of movies and shows I trust no tv shows anymore. I've seen where they start off slow and maybe a little snide political comment here and there, and before you know it they hit you over the head with it like a sledgehammer and full episodes delve into partisan politics and are basically one big political campaign. They did that crap with supergirl and other shows so I learned my lesson. I don't think this January 6 stuff was necessary at all, but of course they just can't help themselves.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2022 3:01:51 GMT 1
Yeah I saw Stacey Abrams being the leader of Earth or whatever. In the pilot, the stuff you mentioned was very brief but I agree keep direct modern politics out of movies and shows I trust no tv shows anymore. I've seen where they start off slow and maybe a little snide political comment here and there, and before you know it they hit you over the head with it like a sledgehammer and full episodes delve into partisan politics and are basically one big political campaign. They did that crap with supergirl and other shows so I learned my lesson. I don't think this January 6 stuff was necessary at all, but of course they just can't help themselves. I get it. Look at the endings of both Peacemaker and Falcon and Winter Soldier. Both had political monologues
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 11, 2022 3:03:43 GMT 1
Pretty standard, old school Trek. It almost feels like they went "back to basics" after all the Discovery and Picard complaints. It does feel like that. Is this meant to be set in the past or? Yes this pike dude was enterprise captain before kirk.
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Post by Jayman on May 11, 2022 3:05:47 GMT 1
I trust no tv shows anymore. I've seen where they start off slow and maybe a little snide political comment here and there, and before you know it they hit you over the head with it like a sledgehammer and full episodes delve into partisan politics and are basically one big political campaign. They did that crap with supergirl and other shows so I learned my lesson. I don't think this January 6 stuff was necessary at all, but of course they just can't help themselves. I get it. Look at the endings of both Peacemaker and Falcon and Winter Soldier. Both had political monologues Yes I did not like the preaching at all at the end. That kind of left a sour taste in my mouth. I give Marvel a pass because so far they have not pulled too many shenanigans.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 11, 2022 7:20:44 GMT 1
Do what I did, Jayman Having grown tired of/frustrated with current TV shows' agendas/mandates, I decided to return to a simpler time (when shows could just be shows) and started rewatching my Xena: Warrior Princess Seasons 3-6 DVDs (after rewatching the first two seasons via repeats on TV since I didn't own those seasons on DVD). I also discovered shows on YouTube like Jack of All Trades starring Bruce Campbell (made by the same people who made X:WP). It's very relaxing to watch a show and not be hit over the head with a sledgehammer delivering some 'statement'/'message'.
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Post by Jayman on May 11, 2022 7:51:05 GMT 1
Do what I did, Jayman Having grown tired of/frustrated with current TV shows' agendas/mandates, I decided to return to a simpler time (when shows could just be shows) and started rewatching my Xena: Warrior Princess Seasons 3-6 DVDs (after rewatching the first two seasons via repeats on TV since I didn't own those seasons on DVD). I also discovered shows on YouTube like Jack of All Trades starring Bruce Campbell (made by the same people who made X:WP). It's very relaxing to watch a show and not be hit over the head with a sledgehammer delivering some 'statement'/'message'. thats exactly what I do. I am with you all the way. Not those particular shows but I like to watch things from the 70’s a lot 😀 Especially when the goal was to provide entertaining television rather than people who use television as a vehicle to push their own political goals
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2022 10:10:58 GMT 1
Great 2nd episode. This one was better than the last. Hits you in the feels
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2022 0:13:45 GMT 1
4 episodes now done and dusted. How are we feeling? Pretty solid so far
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 9:56:41 GMT 1
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 8, 2022 10:24:40 GMT 1
Cant watch. Fuck Paramount
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2022 13:15:16 GMT 1
Cant watch. Fuck Paramount How did you watch Discovery?
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 8, 2022 13:42:13 GMT 1
Cant watch. Fuck Paramount How did you watch Discovery? First three season were on Netflix. S4 wasnt. Picard and Lower Decks was on Prime. No word about SNW. Im kinda losing my fandom because they shit on Roddenberry's legacy by putting money over serving the whole world.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 8, 2022 18:46:39 GMT 1
How did you watch Discovery? First three season were on Netflix. S4 wasnt. Picard and Lower Decks was on Prime. No word about SNW. Im kinda losing my fandom because they shit on Roddenberry's legacy by putting money over serving the whole world. Things are so different throughout the world. I learned literally now from a Google spree following your post that Paramount has a streaming service. I've only ever seen these shows, well, Lower Decks and Strange New Worlds, on TV. Discovery and Picard are on TV too, but I trailed off from them. Without checking now, I'm not even sure Discovery is on my country's version of Netflix.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Jul 8, 2022 18:52:07 GMT 1
I liked it. Anson Mount continues to impress me. I thought he hit the ground running as Pike and still has only gotten faster. I like their crew. I've noticed Chief Kyle has dropped off a little. So far I like their episodes, their finale. Star Trek is always a delicate sell and balance. I think there's a tendency to romance the old stuff and feel anything new threatens old worlds; in theory, the best of Star Trek is yet to come. It could happen.
Lower Decks is still my favourite currently running Star Trek show, and I like Voyager about as much as it's possible to like without putting it above DS9, which is my real favourite.
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Post by LokisMom on Jul 9, 2022 6:32:50 GMT 1
I agree that these shows would be better off without overt references to contemporary partisan political issues. I think that kind of storytelling is better handled through allegory and allusion - the way it was done in previous iterations of Star Trek. However, I do believe explicitly referencing current-day social problems is fair game for a franchise like Star Trek. The footage I referenced earlier also contained what looks like a snippet from a BLM protest and footage from another unnamed conflict. The current shepherds of the Star Trek IP are not exceptionally good custodians. I agree I don't think all current topics should be off limits. I'm sorry but I smell a rat from a mile away when it comes to these political agendas in tv shows. Love the old war is bad, peace is great message that I grew up with. other than that, I do not trust them. It's a major red flag for me and I still want no part of it. I hope you are doing good lately Lord Death man. I know I have not been posting as much lately about sci fi or marvel, but I'll get back into it. Why does everything have to be a political agenda?
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