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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2022 20:28:20 GMT 1
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 8, 2022 5:03:09 GMT 1
I think people have said whatever they wanted to on the radio for years and this seems like an odd line to suddenly start drawing.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 6:54:46 GMT 1
I think people have said whatever they wanted to on the radio for years and this seems like an odd line to suddenly start drawing. Yeah interesting timing to look at everything that Joe has done. It's about free speech really. Cancel culture the utopia.. Hope he comes out alright. That supercut video was taken out of context They're just upset because he's so popular and goes against the narrative at times
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 8, 2022 12:21:45 GMT 1
I think people have said whatever they wanted to on the radio for years and this seems like an odd line to suddenly start drawing. Yeah interesting timing to look at everything that Joe has done. It's about free speech really. Cancel culture the utopia.. Hope he comes out alright. That supercut video was taken out of context They're just upset because he's so popular and goes against the narrative at times In a world where nonsense like ancient aliens is on the damn history channel and most religious schools refuse to teach the fact of evolution, we’re going to pick Joe’s vaccine opinion as intolerable?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2022 18:52:22 GMT 1
I removed my music from Spotify.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 3:21:29 GMT 1
I removed my music from Spotify. lol good one
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 9:05:02 GMT 1
He should be called out for covid disinformation. As for his racist talk, he has free speech rights to protect this. If Spotify supports him, that's their business. Being a racist is not illegal.
So far, ABC is punishing Whoopi Goldberg far more for her honest, if not popular, opinion then Rogan is for his obtuse racist banter.
In other words, Whoopi did not speak out as a racist in order to put down black people, but Joe sure has.
Why the disparity in treatment? I could state the obvious, but that also would be unpopular to say.
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 9:09:27 GMT 1
I think people have said whatever they wanted to on the radio for years and this seems like an odd line to suddenly start drawing. I agree. The second most contagious disease is knee-jerk outrage. People have said things far more dire, like Whoopi did, but did not get put in the time out corner for it. (Like her I think the racism of Nazi Germany was a different species than American racism because the objectives were totally different.)
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 9:13:11 GMT 1
I think people have said whatever they wanted to on the radio for years and this seems like an odd line to suddenly start drawing. Yeah interesting timing to look at everything that Joe has done. It's about free speech really. Cancel culture the utopia.. Hope he comes out alright. That supercut video was taken out of context They're just upset because he's so popular and goes against the narrative at times He is a comic. This comes with the Smartass Big Mouth territory and all great comics should be prepared to live and die by their last joke.
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 9:13:53 GMT 1
I removed my music from Spotify. I never listened to it anyway.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 9:46:14 GMT 1
He should be called out for covid disinformation. As for his racist talk, he has free speech rights to protect this. If Spotify supports him, that's their business. Being a racist is not illegal. So far, ABC is punishing Whoopi Goldberg far more for her honest, if not popular, opinion then Rogan is for his obtuse racist banter. In other words, Whoopi did not speak out as a racist in order to put down black people, but Joe sure has. Why the disparity in treatment? I could state the obvious, but that also would be unpopular to say. Whoopi said it wasnt about race but it was obviously. As for Rogan, he's not racist. He wasnt putting any black people down by the use of the n-word. Taken out of context. Context still matters right? Unlike Joe the now president of the United States, who said if you dont vote for me, you aint black.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 9:48:27 GMT 1
Also information about covid is constantly in flux. Joe Rogan just said what worked for him. As for Robert Malone-if he's not qualified enough to talk about it, who can?
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 10:04:35 GMT 1
He should be called out for covid disinformation. As for his racist talk, he has free speech rights to protect this. If Spotify supports him, that's their business. Being a racist is not illegal. So far, ABC is punishing Whoopi Goldberg far more for her honest, if not popular, opinion then Rogan is for his obtuse racist banter. In other words, Whoopi did not speak out as a racist in order to put down black people, but Joe sure has. Why the disparity in treatment? I could state the obvious, but that also would be unpopular to say. Whoopi said it wasnt about race but it was obviously. As for Rogan, he's not racist. He wasnt putting any black people down by the use of the n-word. Taken out of context. Context still matters right? Unlike Joe the now president of the United States, who said if you dont vote for me, you aint black. There probably isn't a person alive who has not said regrettable things. Biden made a bad joke because he is of generation somewhat obtuse to their causal racism. Look at how much racism there is in the old Looney Tunes cartoons. It just did not occur to them how vulgar and insulting they were about it. I didn't see the View or Rogan's show so I can't really comment beyond what has been written about it. Anyway, she posted this just after: Unlike Rogan, she was not being a comedian here. However, she and Joe Rogan have sincerely apologized. Yet one was gigged, and the other was not...as of yet. While it once was okay, using racism and sexism for comedy purposes is perilous and the comics should face the consequences if they knowingly cross the line. What rarely gets said about Nazi racism is that the Final Solution was the last ditch effort to purge Germany of any race that would spoil their Aryan notions of being a special race with "pure blood." Prior to full on genocide, the Nazis did try to find a place for them to go that would not interfere with their "Lebensraum" land rush to the East. Their intention was clear the land of all impure races and keep the Slavs as their slaves for the German pioneers, so moving Jews East was not a solution. And the UK and USA refused to take them.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 10:35:08 GMT 1
Whoopi said it wasnt about race but it was obviously. As for Rogan, he's not racist. He wasnt putting any black people down by the use of the n-word. Taken out of context. Context still matters right? Unlike Joe the now president of the United States, who said if you dont vote for me, you aint black. There probably isn't a person alive who has not said regrettable things. Biden made a bad joke because he is of generation somewhat obtuse to their causal racism. Look at how much racism there is in the old Looney Tunes cartoons. It just did not occur to them how vulgar and insulting they were about it. I didn't see the View or Rogan's show so I can't really comment beyond what has been written about it. Anyway, she posted this just after: Unlike Rogan, she was not being a comedian here. However, she and Joe Rogan have sincerely apologized. Yet one was gigged, and the other was not...as of yet. While it once was okay, using racism and sexism for comedy purposes is perilous and the comics should face the consequences if they knowingly cross the line. What rarely gets said about Nazi racism is that the Final Solution was the last ditch effort to purge Germany of any race that would spoil their Aryan notions of being a special race with "pure blood." Prior to full on genocide, the Nazis did try to find a place for them to go that would not interfere with their "Lebensraum" land rush to the East. Their intention was clear the land of all impure races and keep the Slavs as their slaves for the German pioneers, so moving Jews East was not a solution. And the UK and USA refused to take them. Do you know whats happening? They are trying desperately to cancel Joe Rogan. Now Neil implored Spotify staff to quit. Difference is, that Joe Rogan has much more weight than Whoopi. Also the left want to be seen to be doing the right thing for their own. Arent they left-wingers on that show?
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 9, 2022 11:38:12 GMT 1
There probably isn't a person alive who has not said regrettable things. Biden made a bad joke because he is of generation somewhat obtuse to their causal racism. Look at how much racism there is in the old Looney Tunes cartoons. It just did not occur to them how vulgar and insulting they were about it. I didn't see the View or Rogan's show so I can't really comment beyond what has been written about it. Anyway, she posted this just after: Unlike Rogan, she was not being a comedian here. However, she and Joe Rogan have sincerely apologized. Yet one was gigged, and the other was not...as of yet. While it once was okay, using racism and sexism for comedy purposes is perilous and the comics should face the consequences if they knowingly cross the line. What rarely gets said about Nazi racism is that the Final Solution was the last ditch effort to purge Germany of any race that would spoil their Aryan notions of being a special race with "pure blood." Prior to full on genocide, the Nazis did try to find a place for them to go that would not interfere with their "Lebensraum" land rush to the East. Their intention was clear the land of all impure races and keep the Slavs as their slaves for the German pioneers, so moving Jews East was not a solution. And the UK and USA refused to take them. Do you know whats happening? They are trying desperately to cancel Joe Rogan. Now Neil implored Spotify staff to quit. Difference is, that Joe Rogan has much more weight than Whoopi. Also the left want to be seen to be doing the right thing for their own. Arent they left-wingers on that show? That's for the people who work for him or sponsor his show to decide. No one gets an automatic pass anymore and Joe Rogan was lucky to be in the right place to take advantage of podcasting. And this is nothing new. Jimmy Greek, a popular sports handicapper tanked after he made some very ignorant comments about why black men are better athletes than white men. Other than being an Edge Lord who dares to say naughty things, what substance does Rogan bring to any of his shows other than laugh it up. The few I've listened to are just guys sitting around bullshitting like all guys do. There is no intelligent discourse to what I've heard. But that is his schtick and I don't begrudge him his show. I do not have to listen to it. My position is neither artist should be punished for speaking their mind...disinformation, yes...Whoopi's opinion on the subject of race was valid and there was nothing rude about it, but she pissed off the wrong folks. I participate in podcasts with the Grandmaster and who knows, we might say the wrong thing some night and get booted off the air. No one should feel pressured to never say the wrong thing, because then we will all become more and more silent as only the politically correct voices can speak.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 13:07:01 GMT 1
Do you know whats happening? They are trying desperately to cancel Joe Rogan. Now Neil implored Spotify staff to quit. Difference is, that Joe Rogan has much more weight than Whoopi. Also the left want to be seen to be doing the right thing for their own. Arent they left-wingers on that show? That's for the people who work for him or sponsor his show to decide. No one gets an automatic pass anymore and Joe Rogan was lucky to be in the right place to take advantage of podcasting. And this is nothing new. Jimmy Greek, a popular sports handicapper tanked after he made some very ignorant comments about why black men are better athletes than white men. Other than being an Edge Lord who dares to say naughty things, what substance does Rogan bring to any of his shows other than laugh it up. The few I've listened to are just guys sitting around bullshitting like all guys do. There is no intelligent discourse to what I've heard. But that is his schtick and I don't begrudge him his show. I do not have to listen to it. My position is neither artist should be punished for speaking their mind...disinformation, yes...Whoopi's opinion on the subject of race was valid and there was nothing rude about it, but she pissed off the wrong folks. I participate in podcasts with the Grandmaster and who knows, we might say the wrong thing some night and get booted off the air. No one should feel pressured to never say the wrong thing, because then we will all become more and more silent as only the politically correct voices can speak. Sure Rogan does that too ie horse around (what do you expect from a comedian?) but he covers a range of topics. If you actually bothered to listen to some of his podcasts you would know this. For example he's had notable people like Neil deGrasse Tyson or Elon Musk make appearances, among many others. It has value. Do a bit of homework on the guy. I agree cancel culture is a cancer. This short clip sums it up nicely. Obviously British but the message is clear
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2022 20:28:01 GMT 1
I removed my music from Spotify. I never listened to it anyway. To my music? Oh you should! I gangsta rap over whale songs.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 9, 2022 21:59:44 GMT 1
Who is Joe Rogan and what is his situation?
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 10, 2022 7:27:08 GMT 1
Who is Joe Rogan and what is his situation? A comedian and shock-jock who has a very popular podcast. He's pretty freeform and mostly hashes out libertarian issues with his guests. His prime platform is on Spotify and he's been getting heat for having a few too many Covid misinformation tips on air. As such, some of his past episodes are getting scrutiny and his liberal use of the n-word got some of his old shows pulled. I'm not a big fan. I prefer the Grandmaster.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 10, 2022 16:47:48 GMT 1
Who is Joe Rogan and what is his situation? A comedian and shock-jock who has a very popular podcast. He's pretty freeform and mostly hashes out libertarian issues with his guests. His prime platform is on Spotify and he's been getting heat for having a few too many Covid misinformation tips on air. As such, some of his past episodes are getting scrutiny and his liberal use of the n-word got some of his old shows pulled. I'm not a big fan. I prefer the Grandmaster. Oh. Sounds like someone I would disagree with a lot being a socialist at heart.
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Post by primemcgee on Feb 10, 2022 19:46:22 GMT 1
Both situations are just examples of how sick media culture have become. It gets crazier by the day. Rogan is suggesting people take some alternative medicine for covid but he is not questioning the entire BS around covid. How many people have been maimed and killed by the vaccinations? The media supports it happening.
They care more about events from the 1940s because it fits their self-centered agenda which goes against current public interest. And the Simpsons had it right on her celebrity. They were making fun of how she was pushed on the public in the media--first in feature film roles--didn't she get an Oscar? And then Jumpin' Jack Flash, and when that didn't work they put her in supporting roles. Even Star Trek. She has a sophisticated speaking voice but she would not have been a celebrity if not for the media pushing her. How many more talented people were rejected or sidelined to give her prominence? Pam Grier deserved more feature film lead roles than she did.
"I was crazy to think anyone would pay to see naked pictures of Whoopi Goldberg."
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 10, 2022 19:48:53 GMT 1
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 12, 2022 1:37:49 GMT 1
Both situations are just examples of how sick media culture have become. It gets crazier by the day. Rogan is suggesting people take some alternative medicine for covid but he is not questioning the entire BS around covid. How many people have been maimed and killed by the vaccinations? The media supports it happening. They care more about events from the 1940s because it fits their self-centered agenda which goes against current public interest. And the Simpsons had it right on her celebrity. They were making fun of how she was pushed on the public in the media--first in feature film roles--didn't she get an Oscar? And then Jumpin' Jack Flash, and when that didn't work they put her in supporting roles. Even Star Trek. She has a sophisticated speaking voice but she would not have been a celebrity if not for the media pushing her. How many more talented people were rejected or sidelined to give her prominence? Pam Grier deserved more feature film lead roles than she did. "I was crazy to think anyone would pay to see naked pictures of Whoopi Goldberg." The media is no less “sick” than its ever been. There’s simply so much more of it now free and readily available for anyone with an asshole opinion. Lying while not under oath is perfectly legal in the United States. Any recourse to these lies if harmful is a civil court. But it is not criminal. Therefore, we as intelligent, discerning, and hopefully educated individuals must parse the truth from the lies. I know. It’s a fucking bitch.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2022 1:52:22 GMT 1
A comedian and shock-jock who has a very popular podcast. He's pretty freeform and mostly hashes out libertarian issues with his guests. His prime platform is on Spotify and he's been getting heat for having a few too many Covid misinformation tips on air. As such, some of his past episodes are getting scrutiny and his liberal use of the n-word got some of his old shows pulled. I'm not a big fan. I prefer the Grandmaster. Oh. Sounds like someone I would disagree with a lot being a socialist at heart. I disagree with some of that obviously but yeah what Loki said. Due to that Neil Young and friends are trying to cancel him
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Post by Merv on Feb 12, 2022 2:20:30 GMT 1
To be honest I haven’t paid a lick of attention to it. Seems like every few months someone is trying to cancel Joe Rogan.
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