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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2021 20:27:14 GMT 1
Casino Royale Skyfall No Time to Die Spectre QoS
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Post by Indiana Jones on Oct 26, 2021 21:45:56 GMT 1
Skyfall 10/10
Casino Royale 9/10
Quantum of Solace 7/10
Spectre 6/10
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 4:00:33 GMT 1
ANYONE ELSE?
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 27, 2021 5:29:29 GMT 1
Casino Royale Skyfall No Time To Die Quantum of Solace Spectre
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2021 7:23:22 GMT 1
Ill come back once I watch the final entry
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 28, 2021 3:57:13 GMT 1
I still have yet to see the new one but 1. Casino Royal - is an all time classic. I remember back in the IMDB days it winning best bond polls all the time. The opening gun barrel is legend, the theme music, and finally an origin film. Great stuff 2. Quantum of Solace - I love it. The brisk pace, the haunting yet upbeat score, the build up of quantum as a larger threat, and the villain and scheme. Its a solid and contemporary swerve and the whole things is endlessly watchable to me. The title is also brilliant 3. Skyfall - Breathtaking in some regards, it’s a sprawling epic that is never quite what you expect but always what it needs to be. The villain the change of pace, the locations. Great classic bond with a modern flair 4. SPECTRE - They just went for way too much here. It’s a cookie with too many eggs and flour. It just doesn’t work no matter how much you keep eating it and telling yourself it’s not that bad. OVERALL - perhaps the best run of three and one of the very best runs of 4 throughout the entire series. Only Moore’s central era, Connery’s early era, and the Dalton/Brosnan trio compare.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2021 19:33:18 GMT 1
I still have yet to see the new one but 1. Casino Royal - is an all time classic. I remember back in the IMDB days it winning best bond polls all the time. The opening gun barrel is legend, the theme music, and finally an origin film. Great stuff 2. Quantum of Solace - I love it. The brisk pace, the haunting yet upbeat score, the build up of quantum as a larger threat, and the villain and scheme. Its a solid and contemporary swerve and the whole things is endlessly watchable to me. The title is also brilliant 3. Skyfall - Breathtaking in some regards, it’s a sprawling epic that is never quite what you expect but always what it needs to be. The villain the change of pace, the locations. Great classic bond with a modern flair 4. SPECTRE - They just went for way too much here. It’s a cookie with too many eggs and flour. It just doesn’t work no matter how much you keep eating it and telling yourself it’s not that bad. OVERALL - perhaps the best run of three and one of the very best runs of 4 throughout the entire series. Only Moore’s central era, Connery’s early era, and the Dalton/Brosnan trio compare. Be sure to check back in once you see the new one. I’d like to read your take.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Oct 28, 2021 19:37:27 GMT 1
Royal Casino Sky High No Time to Diet Spectator Qosmic Solstice
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 29, 2021 1:52:52 GMT 1
I still have yet to see the new one but 1. Casino Royal - is an all time classic. I remember back in the IMDB days it winning best bond polls all the time. The opening gun barrel is legend, the theme music, and finally an origin film. Great stuff 2. Quantum of Solace - I love it. The brisk pace, the haunting yet upbeat score, the build up of quantum as a larger threat, and the villain and scheme. Its a solid and contemporary swerve and the whole things is endlessly watchable to me. The title is also brilliant 3. Skyfall - Breathtaking in some regards, it’s a sprawling epic that is never quite what you expect but always what it needs to be. The villain the change of pace, the locations. Great classic bond with a modern flair 4. SPECTRE - They just went for way too much here. It’s a cookie with too many eggs and flour. It just doesn’t work no matter how much you keep eating it and telling yourself it’s not that bad. OVERALL - perhaps the best run of three and one of the very best runs of 4 throughout the entire series. Only Moore’s central era, Connery’s early era, and the Dalton/Brosnan trio compare. Be sure to check back in once you see the new one. I’d like to read your take. will most definitely do! Probably will go see it this weekend
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 2, 2021 21:48:20 GMT 1
I still have yet to see the new one but 1. Casino Royal - is an all time classic. I remember back in the IMDB days it winning best bond polls all the time. The opening gun barrel is legend, the theme music, and finally an origin film. Great stuff 2. Quantum of Solace - I love it. The brisk pace, the haunting yet upbeat score, the build up of quantum as a larger threat, and the villain and scheme. Its a solid and contemporary swerve and the whole things is endlessly watchable to me. The title is also brilliant 3. Skyfall - Breathtaking in some regards, it’s a sprawling epic that is never quite what you expect but always what it needs to be. The villain the change of pace, the locations. Great classic bond with a modern flair 4. SPECTRE - They just went for way too much here. It’s a cookie with too many eggs and flour. It just doesn’t work no matter how much you keep eating it and telling yourself it’s not that bad. OVERALL - perhaps the best run of three and one of the very best runs of 4 throughout the entire series. Only Moore’s central era, Connery’s early era, and the Dalton/Brosnan trio compare. Be sure to check back in once you see the new one. I’d like to read your take. Saw it, loved it. I think it’s pretty incredible that they gave this Bond so many things he’d never had. And in his own separate continuity. As a long time Bond fan it’s a really cool era to have as part of the series. I wonder what they’ll attempt next? I still have to rank NTTD 4th in the Craig era. And that’s a good thing. He had what might be the best run as the character and the top 4 are all great. I might change that but I’m not sure it’s as rewatchable as my top 3 yet, which I’ll pop in any time. But that’s not a bad thing. This movie hit the right tone for an epic dramatic send off
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2021 23:58:41 GMT 1
Be sure to check back in once you see the new one. I’d like to read your take. Saw it, loved it. I think it’s pretty incredible that they gave this Bond so many things he’d never had. And in his own separate continuity. As a long time Bond fan it’s a really cool era to have as part of the series. I wonder what they’ll attempt next? I still have to rank NTTD 4th in the Craig era. And that’s a good thing. He had what might be the best run as the character and the top 4 are all great. I might change that but I’m not sure it’s as rewatchable as my top 3 yet, which I’ll pop in any time. But that’s not a bad thing. This movie hit the right tone for an epic dramatic send off Glad you enjoyed it! Looking back on the Craig era is bittersweet to me. As much I love the first half of Skyfall I don’t think the series ever quite lived up to what the ending of Casino Royale promised. But that was a very difficult promise to keep. The characterization of Bond was the greatest achievement. Although I think that slipped a bit in No Time. Overall, I’d rate the Craig era as a solid but not as consistently great as Connery’s.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 3, 2021 11:32:28 GMT 1
Saw it, loved it. I think it’s pretty incredible that they gave this Bond so many things he’d never had. And in his own separate continuity. As a long time Bond fan it’s a really cool era to have as part of the series. I wonder what they’ll attempt next? I still have to rank NTTD 4th in the Craig era. And that’s a good thing. He had what might be the best run as the character and the top 4 are all great. I might change that but I’m not sure it’s as rewatchable as my top 3 yet, which I’ll pop in any time. But that’s not a bad thing. This movie hit the right tone for an epic dramatic send off Glad you enjoyed it! Looking back on the Craig era is bittersweet to me. As much I love the first half of Skyfall I don’t think the series ever quite lived up to what the ending of Casino Royale promised. But that was a very difficult promise to keep. The characterization of Bond was the greatest achievement. Although I think that slipped a bit in No Time. Overall, I’d rate the Craig era as a solid but not as consistently great as Connery’s. Wellllll I don’t exactly disagree, but I’d certainly highlight that the Connery era started waning through films 5-7. And Dr No IMO isn’t quite the highlight run of his 2-4 films, which are definitely a highlight run of the series. And I still contend Quantum is by far the most under valued film in the series. I think Craig’s era ranks among any other run of 5 in the whole franchise.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 3, 2021 19:20:13 GMT 1
Glad you enjoyed it! Looking back on the Craig era is bittersweet to me. As much I love the first half of Skyfall I don’t think the series ever quite lived up to what the ending of Casino Royale promised. But that was a very difficult promise to keep. The characterization of Bond was the greatest achievement. Although I think that slipped a bit in No Time. Overall, I’d rate the Craig era as a solid but not as consistently great as Connery’s. Wellllll I don’t exactly disagree, but I’d certainly highlight that the Connery era started waning through films 5-7. And Dr No IMO isn’t quite the highlight run of his 2-4 films, which are definitely a highlight run of the series. And I still contend Quantum is by far the most under valued film in the series. I think Craig’s era ranks among any other run of 5 in the whole franchise. If i really started to be objective I would have to say that the Connery era wasn’t perfect. In fact, none of his other movies, love em though I do, are on the level of Russia or Goldfinger. Those two are near perfection, and the others just aren’t. So I suppose you are correct. My nostalgia for the Craig era will likely expand and soon I’ll be wearing rose tinted Ray Bans for that as well. Gotta disagree on QoS though. It’s the Dark World of the Craig era.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Nov 11, 2021 22:45:42 GMT 1
My ranking (from favourite to least favourite):
Casino Royale
Spectre
Quantum of Solace
No Time to Die
Skyfall
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Nov 14, 2021 18:50:59 GMT 1
Skyfall Casino Royale (due for a rewatch to make sure it's as solid as I remember) QOS Spectre
Have not seen the new one.
I liked Skyfall a lot. It does kind of seem like something was cut out between the train station scene and the farm, but Skyfall made a pitch to justify itself in the courtroom. When M was justifying the 007 position, I think she was making a pitch for the relevancy of James Bond the franchise at the same time. How does James Bond, or espionage, survive into the modern era? It's still needed, apparently. M knows.
I'm not saying she's right, but her defense of MI6 seemed kinda meta. Bond in the 21st century isn't the easiest sell.
I always like Javier Bardem, though.
Casino Royale was a blast and return to form. I didn't mind QOS (the most recent Bond film I've seen for the first time).
Spectre seemed tired to me, though maybe it's better than I remember. My favourite part of the movie was when Christoph Waltz looked up.
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Post by hyundaifromyuggoth on Nov 17, 2021 19:47:49 GMT 1
I'll go with:
1. Daniel Craig
...Did I misunderstand the question?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 18, 2021 7:50:49 GMT 1
I'll go with: 1. Daniel Craig ...Did I misunderstand the question? No, you got it! Personally I would’ve put Daniel Craig a little higher on the list, but I respect your opinion.
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Nov 22, 2021 5:49:22 GMT 1
1. Casino Royale (by far) 2. Quantum of Solace 3. No Time to Die 4. Skyfall 5. Spectre
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Nov 22, 2021 6:04:12 GMT 1
@ghostyghostington and ArArArchStanton, re: your discussion above I do have to agree that, as much as I love Sean Connery as Bond, the only ones of his movies that really hold up for me as movies are From Russia with Love and Goldfinger. Maybe Dr. No too, which is kinda doing its own thing and which I do love. But it’s kinda like that for all Bond movies, at least in my opinion. How many Bonds would you classify as genuinely good filmmaking, even for people who don’t like or know Bond? I’d say the first three Connerys, maybe The Spy Who Loved Me (though you have to be able to put up with Moorean silliness even for that), and… Casino Royale. And that’s pretty much it. That’s not a criticism: I have a major weakness for the silly Bonds, the Moonrakers and Die Another Days (saying it loud and proud: The first is my favorite Moore and the second my favorite Brosnan!), but I enjoy those movies because I’m a Bond fan and they’re the kind of thing I like, not because I’m analyzing them as filmmaking.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 8:18:12 GMT 1
@ghostyghostington and ArArArchStanton , re: your discussion above I do have to agree that, as much as I love Sean Connery as Bond, the only ones of his movies that really hold up for me as movies are From Russia with Love and Goldfinger. Maybe Dr. No too, which is kinda doing its own thing and which I do love. But it’s kinda like that for all Bond movies, at least in my opinion. How many Bonds would you classify as genuinely good filmmaking, even for people who don’t like or know Bond? I’d say the first three Connerys, maybe The Spy Who Loved Me (though you have to be able to put up with Moorean silliness even for that), and… Casino Royale. And that’s pretty much it. That’s not a criticism: I have a major weakness for the silly Bonds, the Moonrakers and Die Another Days (saying it loud and proud: The first is my favorite Moore and the second my favorite Brosnan!), but I enjoy those movies because I’m a Bond fan and they’re the kind of thing I like, not because I’m analyzing them as filmmaking. I do agree. There was a time where I would’ve defended Thunderball, but…the last few times I rewatched it I could definitely recognize some major flaws. Still love it as a Bond fan though. My recent rewatches of Goldfinger (saw it again a few days ago, actually!) on the other hand, only increased my appreciate for how utterly iconic and well made it is (despite also having some flaws of its own). And Russia is just such a great spy movie (and surprisingly grounded for a Bond film, which works in its favor). Casino Royale is indeed a terrific movie as well. I have grown to really dislike the first act. But Act 2-3 are spectacular, and more than make up for it. The rest of Craig’s movies are well made and entertaining, but ultimately deeply flawed, and fail to meet the promise of CR’s amazing ending.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 22, 2021 15:38:03 GMT 1
@ghostyghostington and ArArArchStanton, re: your discussion above I do have to agree that, as much as I love Sean Connery as Bond, the only ones of his movies that really hold up for me as movies are From Russia with Love and Goldfinger. Maybe Dr. No too, which is kinda doing its own thing and which I do love. But it’s kinda like that for all Bond movies, at least in my opinion. How many Bonds would you classify as genuinely good filmmaking, even for people who don’t like or know Bond? I’d say the first three Connerys, maybe The Spy Who Loved Me (though you have to be able to put up with Moorean silliness even for that), and… Casino Royale. And that’s pretty much it. That’s not a criticism: I have a major weakness for the silly Bonds, the Moonrakers and Die Another Days (saying it loud and proud: The first is my favorite Moore and the second my favorite Brosnan!), but I enjoy those movies because I’m a Bond fan and they’re the kind of thing I like, not because I’m analyzing them as filmmaking. I do have a longer list but there are definitely more than a handful of “for bond fans only” - I’ll add Thunderball to the Connery Era. I think it’s great. - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service IMO would be close to the best film in the franchise if Connery had stared in it. It’s that good. - For Your Eyes Only is amazing to me and a top 5 for me. - And both Dalton films are fantastic. Licence To Kill has a special place in the franchise and his debut in The Living Daylights left me wishing we would have had so much more Dalton. - And I put the entire Craig run in aside from SPECTRE. Love them all and think they’re as well made as I’d ever hope for. - As an aside I do find a fair number of others better than their perception. Octopussy is a fun well done adventure. Moonraker is actually pretty serious most of the film with some great moments of tension and a wonderful score, and The Man With The Golden Gun has a cool vibe to it IMO as well. None are top tier. But they’re good watches for me every time.
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Nov 22, 2021 16:04:17 GMT 1
@ghostyghostington and ArArArchStanton , re: your discussion above I do have to agree that, as much as I love Sean Connery as Bond, the only ones of his movies that really hold up for me as movies are From Russia with Love and Goldfinger. Maybe Dr. No too, which is kinda doing its own thing and which I do love. But it’s kinda like that for all Bond movies, at least in my opinion. How many Bonds would you classify as genuinely good filmmaking, even for people who don’t like or know Bond? I’d say the first three Connerys, maybe The Spy Who Loved Me (though you have to be able to put up with Moorean silliness even for that), and… Casino Royale. And that’s pretty much it. That’s not a criticism: I have a major weakness for the silly Bonds, the Moonrakers and Die Another Days (saying it loud and proud: The first is my favorite Moore and the second my favorite Brosnan!), but I enjoy those movies because I’m a Bond fan and they’re the kind of thing I like, not because I’m analyzing them as filmmaking. I do have a longer list but there are definitely more than a handful of “for bond fans only” - I’ll add Thunderball to the Connery Era. I think it’s great. - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service IMO would be close to the best film in the franchise if Connery had stared in it. It’s that good. - For Your Eyes Only is amazing to me and a top 5 for me. - And both Dalton films are fantastic. Licence To Kill has a special place in the franchise and his debut in The Living Daylights left me wishing we would have had so much more Dalton. - And I put the entire Craig run in aside from SPECTRE. Love them all and think they’re as well made as I’d ever hope for. - As an aside I do find a fair number of others better than their perception. Octopussy is a fun well done adventure. Moonraker is actually pretty serious most of the film with some great moments of tension and a wonderful score, and The Man With The Golden Gun has a cool vibe to it IMO as well. None are top tier. But they’re good watches for me every time. OHMSS definitely should’ve made my list above, it seems to be the one Bond film loved even by non-fans. I just, sad to say, don’t like it much at all—though I too would be so interested in seeing Connery in the role. My favorite part in it, by the way, is when Bond as Hilly—when Lazenby is dubbed! Maybe also Skyfall… That’s another one I know people love and I don’t like much at all. I too wish we had more Dalton, and I used to rank Licence to Kill highly, but I think I now prefer Dalton’s performance to the movies he was in. Also, I should note that my list above is not of my favorite Bonds, just of Bond movies that I think would appeal, as filmmaking, even to non-fans. I know we’ve done favorite Bonds somewhere here, but my top five (at this second) would probably be From Russia with Love, Casino Royale, Goldfinger, Moonraker (what can I say? I love it in all its silliness), and Dr. No.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 19:30:56 GMT 1
I think Skyfall could’ve been the Goldfinger of the Craig era. That stretch where Bond goes to Hong Kong, Macau and meets Silva on the island is flat out perfection. Then it really takes a dive in quality when Silva gets back to MI6. Roger Deakins’ cinematography is gorgeous though and completely saves an otherwise silly third act.
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Nov 22, 2021 20:01:59 GMT 1
I think Skyfall could’ve been the Goldfinger of the Craig era. That stretch where Bond goes to Hong Kong, Macau and meets Silva on the island is flat out perfection. Then it really takes a dive in quality when Silva gets back to MI6. Roger Deakins’ cinematography is gorgeous though and completely saves an otherwise silly third act. I do have to watch it again—I distinctly remember that boat scene in Macao. But there was one point where the movie started really turning me off, and I think it’s when Silva is at MI6, as you say. That scene where he escapes down a subway tunnel drove me crazy. But I love that it gave Harris’s Moneypenny a major role.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2021 20:19:18 GMT 1
I think Skyfall could’ve been the Goldfinger of the Craig era. That stretch where Bond goes to Hong Kong, Macau and meets Silva on the island is flat out perfection. Then it really takes a dive in quality when Silva gets back to MI6. Roger Deakins’ cinematography is gorgeous though and completely saves an otherwise silly third act. I do have to watch it again—I distinctly remember that boat scene in Macao. But there was one point where the movie started really turning me off, and I think it’s when Silva is at MI6, as you say. That scene where he escapes down a subway tunnel drove me crazy. But I love that it gave Harris’s Moneypenny a major role. I loved the Dr No style build up to the villain: “How well do you know fear? Not like this. Not like him.” and then the island where he actually (in my opinion) lived up to the hype. I love his rat speech and duel challenge scene and Bond getting the upper hand by calling in the cavalry. And Javier is just so good chewing the scenery. But… then we’re back at MI6 and Silva is suddenly a Joker knock off. He planned for them to move into this old building so he could be caught, immediately escape, then take the tube across town to kill M? WHAT?! What kind of stupid plan is that?! Just so silly. I can’t get past it. The movie never recovers from it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2021 3:12:36 GMT 1
Okay, this is creepy AF: My Amazon account is all of a sudden recommending all the Connery Bond movies on blu ray. I have not searched for anything Bond related recently. Could it actually be because of these posts? Does Amazon really mine our data that throughly? That’s unsettling.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 23, 2021 3:19:52 GMT 1
I do have a longer list but there are definitely more than a handful of “for bond fans only” - I’ll add Thunderball to the Connery Era. I think it’s great. - On Her Majesty’s Secret Service IMO would be close to the best film in the franchise if Connery had stared in it. It’s that good. - For Your Eyes Only is amazing to me and a top 5 for me. - And both Dalton films are fantastic. Licence To Kill has a special place in the franchise and his debut in The Living Daylights left me wishing we would have had so much more Dalton. - And I put the entire Craig run in aside from SPECTRE. Love them all and think they’re as well made as I’d ever hope for. - As an aside I do find a fair number of others better than their perception. Octopussy is a fun well done adventure. Moonraker is actually pretty serious most of the film with some great moments of tension and a wonderful score, and The Man With The Golden Gun has a cool vibe to it IMO as well. None are top tier. But they’re good watches for me every time. OHMSS definitely should’ve made my list above, it seems to be the one Bond film loved even by non-fans. I just, sad to say, don’t like it much at all—though I too would be so interested in seeing Connery in the role. My favorite part in it, by the way, is when Bond as Hilly—when Lazenby is dubbed! Maybe also Skyfall… That’s another one I know people love and I don’t like much at all. I too wish we had more Dalton, and I used to rank Licence to Kill highly, but I think I now prefer Dalton’s performance to the movies he was in. Also, I should note that my list above is not of my favorite Bonds, just of Bond movies that I think would appeal, as filmmaking, even to non-fans. I know we’ve done favorite Bonds somewhere here, but my top five (at this second) would probably be From Russia with Love, Casino Royale, Goldfinger, Moonraker (what can I say? I love it in all its silliness), and Dr. No. Love Skyfall. The escape is almost over the top but it's great action and suspense and the third act is totally worth it. The showdown at his home for me is pure gold. And everything in the first and second act is amazing But if I had to pick a top 5, I'd go with Casino Royale, From Russia With Love, For Your Eyes Only, Licence To Kill, and I Have No Idea lololol The Spy Who Loved Me? Majesty? Skyfall? Thunderball? A lot of great top ten candidates.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 23, 2021 4:28:54 GMT 1
Yah… Yah… right… but which is the best Craig-era theme song?
Except for the one I that thought was a man and a woman singing a duet, but turns out was just one dude, I think they're all very strong and distinctive.
I'm going to rank it like this…
1. You Know My Name - A nearly perfect theme song for a bond reintroduction 2. Another Way To Die - Diabolical lyrics that dredge up the paranoia and treachery inherent in the franchise 3. Skyfall - Great craftsmanship - feels like a true vintage love song 4. No Time Die - Weird - don't know what she's saying - sounds like mouth music 5. The Writing on the Wall - A kind of Victor/Victoria thing going on - don't get it
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