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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 1:39:00 GMT 1
Will China be in deep trouble after this ordeal? Countries are calling for investigations. Some are making their own factories
Handshakes, a thing of the past? Much more emphasis on hygiene? Stricter codes at workplaces
More VOD, less cinema?
Any other thoughts?
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Post by Grandmaster on May 4, 2020 6:18:40 GMT 1
China will lead the world after this. I dont think this virus is created at all. Thats just paranoia.
The rest we will have to see but we will feel the impact of these years for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2020 23:00:31 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world?
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 5, 2020 15:18:52 GMT 1
They should receive some sort of punishment but I think everyone is scared of them to do something. Shame.
Hygiene and stronger health guidelines will become the norm. I don't think handshakes are extinct though.
I hope cinema bounces back but I think a lot of these high profile movies are gonna underperform because they were pushed back.
Social life will slowly crawl back to normal. Maybe by 2021.
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Post by Indiana Jones on May 5, 2020 19:01:19 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world? Well, the United States (and Europe to some extent) is suffering from political hyper-partisanship and economic stagnation. China’s government is totalitarian af but it’s one advantage is it’s comparatively more stable than the gaggle of sadsacks running our country.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 3:21:36 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world? Well, the United States (and Europe to some extent) is suffering from political hyper-partisanship and economic stagnation. China’s government is totalitarian af but it’s one advantage is it’s comparatively more stable than the gaggle of sadsacks running our country. You're right that the leadership with Europe and America is questionable, more so on the European side. Hate him or love Trump, he did come out on top with a trade war with China. He's also calling an investigation into China and withdrew funding from the WHO. China's actions will not go unanswered, to think otherwise is a little naive with all due respect. China pretends to be strong and they dont really have any allies. Constantly have conflicts in the yellow sea or whatever sea it is in Asia. Japan wiped the floor with them in the 40s. They are still a developing country and havent really done anything against Taiwan. Countries are starting to wake up over China's morally bankrupt international activities. I dont have a problem with China, only the regime over there Sorry if Im kind of vehement over this issue. I just really dont like that regime over there. It's because of them, we are all in this mess
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 6:34:17 GMT 1
Well, the United States (and Europe to some extent) is suffering from political hyper-partisanship and economic stagnation. China’s government is totalitarian af but it’s one advantage is it’s comparatively more stable than the gaggle of sadsacks running our country. You're right that the leadership with Europe and America is questionable, more so on the European side. Hate him or love Trump, he did come out on top with a trade war with China. He's also calling an investigation into China and withdrew funding from the WHO. China's actions will not go unanswered, to think otherwise is a little naive with all due respect. China pretends to be strong and they dont really have any allies. Constantly have conflicts in the yellow sea or whatever sea it is in Asia. Japan wiped the floor with them in the 40s. They are still a developing country and havent really done anything against Taiwan. Countries are starting to wake up over China's morally bankrupt international activities. I dont have a problem with China, only the regime over there Sorry if Im kind of vehement over this issue. I just really dont like that regime over there. It's because of them, we are all in this mess This guy gets it.
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Post by Grandmaster on May 6, 2020 18:34:21 GMT 1
My government just announced a road map to September 1st. They will slowly losen up rules step by step. But they also said we can only go back to normal once there is a vaccine. They said that can take up to 6 months to several years.
Movie theaters are allowed open again at June 1st. But up to 30 people per theater. On July 1st, if possible, that will be 100.
So Marvel, you can release Black Widow June 1st.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 6, 2020 18:47:59 GMT 1
I am listening to Mayor of St Louis right now, planning to reopen City on May 18th.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on May 7, 2020 11:13:06 GMT 1
My state governor supposedly wants to open the state up at the end of may. I guess we'll see what happens.
As for what will happen after this is all over? Let's be honest here this outbreak changed everything. Sure some things will go back to normal but it will not be the same.
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Post by charzhino on May 7, 2020 15:22:08 GMT 1
Uk government just announced easing of lockdown from Monday. Which I find dumb as we are still losing 600-700 people a day, have the highest death rate in Europe and given the fact we are 2 weeks behind Spain and Italy who initially locked down 2 weeks before we did.
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Post by Grandmaster on May 7, 2020 15:41:02 GMT 1
Uk government just announced easing of lockdown from Monday. Which I find dumb as we are still losing 600-700 people a day, have the highest death rate in Europe and given the fact we are 2 weeks behind Spain and Italy who initially locked down 2 weeks before we did. We lost that Italy/Spain trail after one and a half week because our government took firmer action. I am not up to speed on the situation in your country but it does sound like its gonna be too soon I hope you and your loved ones are safe.
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Post by charzhino on May 7, 2020 18:34:32 GMT 1
Uk government just announced easing of lockdown from Monday. Which I find dumb as we are still losing 600-700 people a day, have the highest death rate in Europe and given the fact we are 2 weeks behind Spain and Italy who initially locked down 2 weeks before we did. We lost that Italy/Spain trail after one and a half week because our government took firmer action. I am not up to speed on the situation in your country but it does sound like its gonna be too soon I hope you and your loved ones are safe. We will find out later this month, but I think there will be a spike in infections again and maybe another lockdown impending. Eastern Europe who have the lowest deaths in Europe were on the ball, they rapidly locked down much earlier than Western Europe after seeing what was happening in Italy early on and it paid off. UK was too slow to react
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2020 10:26:55 GMT 1
Interesting 6min covid-19 video
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 1:49:59 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on May 19, 2020 2:15:49 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 2:47:42 GMT 1
A freaking dream compared to being cooped up inside all day.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on May 19, 2020 8:02:46 GMT 1
Depending on how well things go, either this... Or this...
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 14:12:56 GMT 1
Will China be in deep trouble after this ordeal? Countries are calling for investigations. Some are making their own factories Handshakes, a thing of the past? Much more emphasis on hygiene? Stricter codes at workplaces More VOD, less cinema? Any other thoughts? 1. Australia was the first country to call for an investigation of the origins of COVID-19. Apparently, approximately 61 other countries have followed Australia's lead and support the call for an investigation. The relationship between Australia and China has suffered greatly because of this. China has since taken steps to punish Australia through trade. However, China now supports the idea of an investigation, possibly because they believe they can influence the process to their own advantage. 2. I believe social behaviour, in both public and private, will be affected to some degree for some time. However, the specifics will depend upon the individual people and circumstances involved. 3. I believe cinema will survive, but, possibly, not as we know it now. It might become necessary for theatres to aim their services towards a more niche market... both for new releases and for cinema classics and "golden oldies". 4. I believe this "new normal" might well be with us much longer than some people anticipate. I've heard news organizations, public commentators and politicians speak about having a vaccine by the end of this year or early next year. However, I've heard experts in epidemiology and medicine from around the globe speak of "best-case scenarios" involving 12 to 18 months at the very least. Meanwhile, I've heard experts with experience in developing cures and vaccines say it could be years, decades or possibly never. For myself personally, I believe we should hope for the best, but prepare for the worse... just in case.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 14:37:18 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world? Even before this global pandemic struck, economic experts from around the world were calling this the "Asian century" and predicted that China would eventually overhaul the USA and become the leading global economy. Even with this global pandemic, I doubt much has happened that will change that economic prediction moving forwards. China may come under pressure from outside sources, concerning the origins of COVID-19, but I expect they'll weather the storm easily and in the end, prevail over their opponents. China is an expert at playing the long game. They've been doing it in one form or another for centuries. All they need to do is wait for the fickle West to vacillate or to waver over which course of action they wish to pursue and which political leader or party they want to lead them into that future... before, once more, they change their minds yet again. And while the West chops and changes, time and time again, China just has to bide its time. Until their opportunity presents itself. Whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. Recently, President Donald Trump cut funding to the World Health Organization. I'm not here to pass judgement on his decision, simply to point out that this provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them yet another opportunity to move forward in their goal to supplant the USA as the dominant economic force of the twenty-first century and beyond. PS - Also, as a side not, if China can provide assistance with the funding shortfall left by the USA, then when it comes time for this investigation into the origins of COVID-19, it'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation... Just a thought.
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on May 19, 2020 15:57:50 GMT 1
I hope we go “back to normal,” and quickly. Perhaps because early on I listened to too much media fear-mongering, I am worried about the possibility of things never being as they were again (as insignificant as it seems, I like giving handshakes — and, more significantly, I’d like to be with family members who don’t live with me without everyone being terrified).
China should be investigated, and ostracized from the rest of the world. The latter won’t happen, but it should.
A minor thing: It would be interesting if we have a return to drive-in movie theaters. While of course I want regular movie theaters, not to mention live-show theaters, to return, I like drive-ins and think having more of them is a great idea.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 19:08:50 GMT 1
I hope we go “back to normal,” and quickly. Perhaps it’s because early on I listened to too much media fear-mongering, I am worried about the possibility of things never being as they were again (as insignificant as it seems, I like giving handshakes — and, more significantly, I’d like to be with family members who don’t live with me without everyone being terrified). China should be investigated, and ostracized from the rest of the world. The latter won’t happen, but it should. It would be interesting if we have a return to drive-in movie theaters. While of course I want regular movie theaters, not to mention live-show theaters, to return, I like drive-ins and think having more of them is a great idea. It's very sad to hear of the ever increasing death toll and economic damage associated with the global pandemic, but to be honest, apart from that, I'm having the time of my life. I've been self-isolating, social distancing and hoarding essential supplies for over 5 years, so I've had to make very few adjustments to my daily routine or overall lifestyle. Who knew it'd take a worldwide disaster to finally make me feel like a member of the Human species...?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:11:06 GMT 1
I hate to be doom and gloom...but our economy (USA) isnt going back where it was. We probably have cost ourselves a good 3 years now. Debt is going up, no doubt about that now. So many industries being slammed. Wal-Mart (number one employer in the US) was open 24/7. Now..at least here, 7-8:30. People might think no big deal, but that's a big shift simply cut or peoples hours slashed. That's a good cut, 3rd shift, out. I have fast food workers, and a lot are still only doing drive through. Which means, usually you got a few front liners and cooks. Well that's another front liner gone who cleans the dining room. People might laugh at that but that's chunks of people being cut. I just found out like 5 people at this fast food joint simply got cut and could be called back when thinks are normal.
When will that be, who knows. Texas opened up and cases popped up hard.
I just think we are gonna be in for a long haul and won't go back to where we were.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 6:15:07 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world? Even before this global pandemic struck, economic experts from around the world were calling this the "Asian century" and predicted that China would eventually overhaul the USA and become the leading global economy. Even with this global pandemic, I doubt much has happened that will change that economic prediction moving forwards. China may come under pressure from outside sources, concerning the origins of COVID-19, but I expect they'll weather the storm easily and in the end, prevail over their opponents. China is an expert at playing the long game. They've been doing it in one form or another for centuries. All they need to do is wait for the fickle West to vacillate or to waver over which course of action they wish to pursue and which political leader or party they want to lead them into that future... before, once more, they change their minds yet again. And while the West chops and changes, time and time again, China just has to bide its time. Until their opportunity presents itself. Whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. Recently, President Donald Trump cut funding to the World Health Organization. I'm not here to pass judgement on his decision, simply to point out that this provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them yet another opportunity to move forward in their goal to supplant the USA as the dominant economic force of the twenty-first century and beyond. PS - Also, as a side not, if China can provide assistance with the funding shortfall left by the USA, then when it comes time for this investigation into the origins of COVID-19, it'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation... Just a thought. Ok say China has been playing the long game for centuries, it doesnt seem like it has amounted to very much. China may very well be the world's factory for now but thats because they are letting it happen internationally. It's not like it's happening by coercion and what happens when the world shifts? What happens to China then? Countries are starting to make their own factories in light of recent events and headquarters are being moved away from China There are a lot of countries now calling for an investigation into China as you say, even Russia. I cant see this going over well for them, everyone loves there to be someone to blame when things go so wrong. Ultimately I have faith in Europe, they have been the dominating force since forever ie from the Ancient Greeks to Romans to medieval times to the British Empire and right now the EU is still very much a force to be reckoned with even though I think they have lost their balls. But Europe can move incredibly fast when they want to, so can America
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 8:14:37 GMT 1
Even before this global pandemic struck, economic experts from around the world were calling this the "Asian century" and predicted that China would eventually overhaul the USA and become the leading global economy. Even with this global pandemic, I doubt much has happened that will change that economic prediction moving forwards. China may come under pressure from outside sources, concerning the origins of COVID-19, but I expect they'll weather the storm easily and in the end, prevail over their opponents. China is an expert at playing the long game. They've been doing it in one form or another for centuries. All they need to do is wait for the fickle West to vacillate or to waver over which course of action they wish to pursue and which political leader or party they want to lead them into that future... before, once more, they change their minds yet again. And while the West chops and changes, time and time again, China just has to bide its time. Until their opportunity presents itself. Whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. Recently, President Donald Trump cut funding to the World Health Organization. I'm not here to pass judgement on his decision, simply to point out that this provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them yet another opportunity to move forward in their goal to supplant the USA as the dominant economic force of the twenty-first century and beyond. PS - Also, as a side not, if China can provide assistance with the funding shortfall left by the USA, then when it comes time for this investigation into the origins of COVID-19, it'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation... Just a thought. Ok say China has been playing the long game for centuries, it doesnt seem like it has amounted to very much. China may very well be the world's factory for now but thats because they are letting it happen internationally. It's not like it's happening by coercion and what happens when the world shifts? What happens to China then? Countries are starting to make their own factories in light of recent events and headquarters are being moved away from China There are a lot of countries now calling for an investigation into China as you say, even Russia. I cant see this going over well for them, everyone loves there to be someone to blame when things go so wrong. Ultimately I have faith in Europe, they have been the dominating force since forever ie from the Ancient Greeks to Romans to medieval times to the British Empire and right now the EU is still very much a force to be reckoned with even though I think they have lost their balls. But Europe can move incredibly fast when they want to, so can America 1. China is poised to supplant the USA as the dominant global economic force of the twenty-first century, which means they're already in second place, but you don't believe their previous efforts have amounted to very much? This is not the first time in their history that they have been a dominant force in world affairs. When they first rose to prominence, many modern countries simply didn't exist... and wouldn't exist for centuries yet. Even if any of these proposed changes take place - and I have no reason to doubt you, because such discussions have already been occurring in my own country - do you honestly believe China will simply stand still, passively watching these changes occur, without taking any steps to ameliorate or counteract possible future consequences? As I previously mentioned, whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. This not only refers to the developed nations of the first world, but also the developing nations around the globe. And what do developing nations eventually evolve into? Developed nations. The long game... 2. Oh, I certainly think China might well be in for a bit of a rough patch in the near future... possibly. Remember, China is an expert at playing the long game. As previously noted, President Donald Trump recently cut funding to the World Health Organization. This provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation. This may or may not help China to avoid the rough patch I've mentioned, but it'll certainly give China an opportunity it may not previously have had to ameliorate or counteract the worst of possible future consequences. 3. That might be a misplaced faith. The global pandemic has placed tremendous stress on the internal operation of the EU, due to both economic and health issues. Member states such as Germany and Italy are openly questioning - for very different reasons - the wisdom of remaining a part of the EU. If Italy were to leave, it could possibly be a serious setback to the future of the EU, but if Germany were to leave, it could probably be a crushing blow to the very existence of the EU that the organization might not be able to survive. Apart from that, Brexit negotiations between the EU and Britain are already not going according to plan for the EU... and the advent of COVID-19 has done nothing to improve the situation for them. And, of course, it would be naive to think that China is unaware of this state of chaos and conflict within the EU... and do not stand ready and willing to take advantage of any opportunity these events might afford them.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 13:38:55 GMT 1
Ok say China has been playing the long game for centuries, it doesnt seem like it has amounted to very much. China may very well be the world's factory for now but thats because they are letting it happen internationally. It's not like it's happening by coercion and what happens when the world shifts? What happens to China then? Countries are starting to make their own factories in light of recent events and headquarters are being moved away from China There are a lot of countries now calling for an investigation into China as you say, even Russia. I cant see this going over well for them, everyone loves there to be someone to blame when things go so wrong. Ultimately I have faith in Europe, they have been the dominating force since forever ie from the Ancient Greeks to Romans to medieval times to the British Empire and right now the EU is still very much a force to be reckoned with even though I think they have lost their balls. But Europe can move incredibly fast when they want to, so can America 1. China is poised to supplant the USA as the dominant global economic force of the twenty-first century, which means they're already in second place, but you don't believe their previous efforts have amounted to very much? This is not the first time in their history that they have been a dominant force in world affairs. When they first rose to prominence, many modern countries simply didn't exist... and wouldn't exist for centuries yet. Even if any of these proposed changes take place - and I have no reason to doubt you, because such discussions have already been occurring in my own country - do you honestly believe China will simply stand still, passively watching these changes occur, without taking any steps to ameliorate or counteract possible future consequences? As I previously mentioned, whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. This not only refers to the developed nations of the first world, but also the developing nations around the globe. And what do developing nations eventually evolve into? Developed nations. The long game... 2. Oh, I certainly think China might well be in for a bit of a rough patch in the near future... possibly. Remember, China is an expert at playing the long game. As previously noted, President Donald Trump recently cut funding to the World Health Organization. This provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation. This may or may not help China to avoid the rough patch I've mentioned, but it'll certainly give China an opportunity it may not previously have had to ameliorate or counteract the worst of possible future consequences. 3. That might be a misplaced faith. The global pandemic has placed tremendous stress on the internal operation of the EU, due to both economic and health issues. Member states such as Germany and Italy are openly questioning - for very different reasons - the wisdom of remaining a part of the EU. If Italy were to leave, it could possibly be a serious setback to the future of the EU, but if Germany were to leave, it could probably be a crushing blow to the very existence of the EU that the organization might not be able to survive. Apart from that, Brexit negotiations between the EU and Britain are already not going according to plan for the EU... and the advent of COVID-19 has done nothing to improve the situation for them. And, of course, it would be naive to think that China is unaware of this state of chaos and conflict within the EU... and do not stand ready and willing to take advantage of any opportunity these events might afford them. I say that because how much influence do they have in the world? Compared to America and Europe. What technological achievements have they made? When you look at the top 30 billionaire list, China barely makes a dent. Scores of people in China are in poverty or are struggling, the majority actually. Not sure how you can dominate when its citizens are like that. That's why it's still a developing country At what point in the past, do you believe they were dominant in world affairs? Who knows what's going to happen with the WHO? It might trigger other countries to leave too. Sure there will be a vacuum but it doesnt mean China will just take the reigns. America is much stronger politically internationally, so is the EU. You seem to think America and Europe dont have their own intelligence and international agents. That may happen, it may not. Just because China is waiting for an opportunity, doesnt mean Europe will just sit idly by. Italy would never side with China on serious matters especially when it comes to strategic alliances, even if they broke away from the EU. Did anyone really actively help Japan in WW2 from the European side? At best it was just a truce from the Nazis. You do your thing, we'll do ours and that's Japan. China is loathed among many of its Asian counterparts due to the conflicts in the Yellow Sea and other matters. They are definitely not friendly with India, another country with an enormous population and also holds nuclear weapons.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 15:33:24 GMT 1
1. China is poised to supplant the USA as the dominant global economic force of the twenty-first century, which means they're already in second place, but you don't believe their previous efforts have amounted to very much? This is not the first time in their history that they have been a dominant force in world affairs. When they first rose to prominence, many modern countries simply didn't exist... and wouldn't exist for centuries yet. Even if any of these proposed changes take place - and I have no reason to doubt you, because such discussions have already been occurring in my own country - do you honestly believe China will simply stand still, passively watching these changes occur, without taking any steps to ameliorate or counteract possible future consequences? As I previously mentioned, whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. This not only refers to the developed nations of the first world, but also the developing nations around the globe. And what do developing nations eventually evolve into? Developed nations. The long game... 2. Oh, I certainly think China might well be in for a bit of a rough patch in the near future... possibly. Remember, China is an expert at playing the long game. As previously noted, President Donald Trump recently cut funding to the World Health Organization. This provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation. This may or may not help China to avoid the rough patch I've mentioned, but it'll certainly give China an opportunity it may not previously have had to ameliorate or counteract the worst of possible future consequences. 3. That might be a misplaced faith. The global pandemic has placed tremendous stress on the internal operation of the EU, due to both economic and health issues. Member states such as Germany and Italy are openly questioning - for very different reasons - the wisdom of remaining a part of the EU. If Italy were to leave, it could possibly be a serious setback to the future of the EU, but if Germany were to leave, it could probably be a crushing blow to the very existence of the EU that the organization might not be able to survive. Apart from that, Brexit negotiations between the EU and Britain are already not going according to plan for the EU... and the advent of COVID-19 has done nothing to improve the situation for them. And, of course, it would be naive to think that China is unaware of this state of chaos and conflict within the EU... and do not stand ready and willing to take advantage of any opportunity these events might afford them. I say that because how much influence do they have in the world? Compared to America and Europe. What technological achievements have they made? When you look at the top 30 billionaire list, China barely makes a dent. Scores of people in China are in poverty or are struggling, the majority actually. Not sure how you can dominate when its citizens are like that. That's why it's still a developing country At what point in the past, do you believe they were dominant in world affairs? Who knows what's going to happen with the WHO? It might trigger other countries to leave too. Sure there will be a vacuum but it doesnt mean China will just take the reigns. America is much stronger politically internationally, so is the EU. You seem to think America and Europe dont have their own intelligence and international agents. That may happen, it may not. Just because China is waiting for an opportunity, doesnt mean Europe will just sit idly by. Italy would never side with China on serious matters especially when it comes to strategic alliances, even if they broke away from the EU. Did anyone really actively help Japan in WW2 from the European side? At best it was just a truce from the Nazis. You do your thing, we'll do ours and that's Japan. China is loathed among many of its Asian counterparts due to the conflicts in the Yellow Sea and other matters. They are definitely not friendly with India, another country with an enormous population and also holds nuclear weapons. 1. In recent years, China’s global investments have grown dramatically, surpassing the USA as the largest trading partner with many countries in Africa and Latin America. China is challenging the USA’s strategic influence across the globe. From official investments in key industries like aerospace, artificial intelligence, infrastructure and power distribution, to investments by Chinese companies in new technologies like 5G, China has pledged to become a world economic leader by 2025. While the USA has proposed deep and disproportionate cuts to diplomacy and development for three consecutive years, China has doubled its foreign affairs budget since 2011. In 2018, China increased its budget for diplomacy by nearly 16% and its budget for foreign aid by nearly 7%. It has also been noted that the Chinese model of economic development has created dependencies in countries unable to repay their loans and it has been reluctant to contribute to international efforts to address global threats. When it comes to billionaires, it was reported on March 3, 2020 by the website, Statista, that China topped the list in 2020 with a billionaire population of 799. China produced nearly 4 in every 10 new billionaires this year, outpacing the number of new faces in the USA. The world’s second-largest economy added 182 of the 479 new billionaires, taking the tally in China to 799, according to the latest Hurun Global Rich List 2020. Meanwhile, the USA minted 59 new billionaires to raise its total to 626. As for the poverty rate, in China, recent data from the National Bureau of Statistics showed that the war on poverty continued in 2019. China has lifted nearly 850 000 000 rural poor out of poverty over the past six years and its poverty rate - the proportion of people living below the poverty line - dropped from 10.2% to 1.7% over the same period. Meanwhile, in the USA, based on the US Census Bureau's 2017 estimates, the official poverty rate is 12.3%. In 2017, it was estimated that nearly 40 000 000 USA citizens lived in poverty, according to the official measure. So with the differences in the overall population and the cost of living between the two countries it seems like there are less people in China doing it tough than in the USA. Of course, now that the people of the world have to deal with this global pandemic, all bets are off. By the way, China is not a developing country. It has been referred to as an emerging superpower, given that Beijing's power is now beyond the classification of a Great Power. Oh... and I'm not sure how the USA can dominate when its citizens are like that. Does that mean they're still a developing country? 2. It first rose to prominence in the West between 1271 and 1368. Over the centuries since then, it has played a role on the global stage to varying degrees. Sometimes more forceful, sometimes more submissive. For a very long time, they were an isolationist nation in nature, but all of that's in the past. They're now in number two position and it looks like they won't be satisfied until they've become number one. 3. Indeed, it's never easy to predict the future, especially where international organizations are concerned. And I never said that China would automatically take the reigns. I said the recent actions of President Donald Trump to cut funding to the World Health Organization has provided China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them an opportunity to increase their influence. They might ultimately be successful or unsuccessful in this endeavour. I'm sure the USA and the EU are still both very formidable and powerful. However, as I've already indicated in this post and an earlier one, the USA has proposed deep and disproportionate cuts to diplomacy and development, while China has increased it's own. Meanwhile, the EU is struggling to cope with the global pandemic, deal with growing internal turmoil from multiple member states and negotiate a successful Brexit Treaty with a departing member state. So, at present, I wouldn't personally wish to claim anything as a certainty. And I've made no such claim about the abilities of the USA and the EU when it comes to intelligence gathering and analyse. However, you surely realize that whatever they can do, China can do as well. 4. I doubt very few countries would choose to sit idly and watch the world pass them by. However, I think, ultimately, Italy will act in their own best interest, even if this means some sort of alliance with China. However, I see it more as a trading alliance than a strategic one. Economics is more attractive, effective and influential than conflict. Your reference to WWII is a bit of a non-sequitur, but it's important to remember that times have changed dramatically in the last... 75 years. The "Nazis" have become the most economically influential and powerful member of the EU, whilst Japan is third in ranking for overall GDP globally... behind the USA and China. Not bad for a couple of losers. Everything changes, nothing stays the same. It's also interesting that you should mention India. Economists have predicted that in the long term, India will eventually overtake China in economic dominance, just as China will overtake the USA in economic dominance. Of course, the experts could well be wrong and - due to unforeseen events - some other alternate future will arise. I can't wait to find out. To quote the motto of this website: "Time will tell..."
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 17:14:40 GMT 1
Why will China lead the world? Even before this global pandemic struck, economic experts from around the world were calling this the "Asian century" and predicted that China would eventually overhaul the USA and become the leading global economy. Even with this global pandemic, I doubt much has happened that will change that economic prediction moving forwards. China may come under pressure from outside sources, concerning the origins of COVID-19, but I expect they'll weather the storm easily and in the end, prevail over their opponents. China is an expert at playing the long game. They've been doing it in one form or another for centuries. All they need to do is wait for the fickle West to vacillate or to waver over which course of action they wish to pursue and which political leader or party they want to lead them into that future... before, once more, they change their minds yet again. And while the West chops and changes, time and time again, China just has to bide its time. Until their opportunity presents itself. Whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. Recently, President Donald Trump cut funding to the World Health Organization. I'm not here to pass judgement on his decision, simply to point out that this provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them yet another opportunity to move forward in their goal to supplant the USA as the dominant economic force of the twenty-first century and beyond. PS - Also, as a side not, if China can provide assistance with the funding shortfall left by the USA, then when it comes time for this investigation into the origins of COVID-19, it'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation... Just a thought. Until the rich quit getting richer via China, little will change toward China other than a few hand slaps and harsh rhetoric.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2020 17:25:41 GMT 1
Even before this global pandemic struck, economic experts from around the world were calling this the "Asian century" and predicted that China would eventually overhaul the USA and become the leading global economy. Even with this global pandemic, I doubt much has happened that will change that economic prediction moving forwards. China may come under pressure from outside sources, concerning the origins of COVID-19, but I expect they'll weather the storm easily and in the end, prevail over their opponents. China is an expert at playing the long game. They've been doing it in one form or another for centuries. All they need to do is wait for the fickle West to vacillate or to waver over which course of action they wish to pursue and which political leader or party they want to lead them into that future... before, once more, they change their minds yet again. And while the West chops and changes, time and time again, China just has to bide its time. Until their opportunity presents itself. Whenever and wherever there's a chance to assert influence around the globe, you'll most likely find agents or representatives of China there, doing their best to plant their seed and establish their presence. Recently, President Donald Trump cut funding to the World Health Organization. I'm not here to pass judgement on his decision, simply to point out that this provides China with an opening to fill the position of influence vacated by the USA. It gives them yet another opportunity to move forward in their goal to supplant the USA as the dominant economic force of the twenty-first century and beyond. PS - Also, as a side not, if China can provide assistance with the funding shortfall left by the USA, then when it comes time for this investigation into the origins of COVID-19, it'll leave China in a very strong position to assert its influence over the World Health Organization and perhaps those conducting the investigation... Just a thought. Until the rich quit getting richer via China, little will change toward China other than a few hand slaps and harsh rhetoric. Sounds about right... PS - Good to see a familiar face. Hope you and yours are doing okay during our "little difficulty".
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on May 20, 2020 19:45:44 GMT 1
Not relevant to anyone but me, but I just have to get it off my chest: I just found out that my best friend, who’s attending grad school in a different country, isn’t coming back for his break in August, after being unable to come back for his break this month.
So disappointed. I hate this virus, this pandemic, this lockdown so much.
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