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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 15, 2023 19:51:17 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 15, 2023 19:52:58 GMT 1
Could you imagine if DC and Marvel's roles reverse? Like DC ends up being the new top dog and Marvel ends up desperately trying to catch up? Wouldn't DC need to have at least ten years of solid success before they even came close to matching the MCU? Seems to me they have a lot of catching up to do. I guess we'll see how the James Gunn era of DC goes.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 21:04:40 GMT 1
I suspect over-saturation has a lot to do with the critics turning on Marvel. Spamming the world with tons of CONTENT was not the right move post-Infinity Saga.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 15, 2023 21:08:06 GMT 1
I suspect over-saturation has a lot to do with the critics turning on Marvel. Spamming the world with tons of CONTENT was not the right move post-Infinity Saga. or... it could just be a bad movie
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 15, 2023 21:35:35 GMT 1
The guy who wrote this is writing Secret Wars.
So that's concerning. He also wrote some Rick and Morty episodes, so yeah...
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 15, 2023 22:15:18 GMT 1
The guy who wrote this is writing Secret Wars. So that's concerning. He also wrote some Rick and Morty episodes, so yeah... Correction: Jeff Loveness wrote this, not Michael Waldron. Got them mixed up due to my hatred of Rick and Morty.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 22:57:48 GMT 1
I suspect over-saturation has a lot to do with the critics turning on Marvel. Spamming the world with tons of CONTENT was not the right move post-Infinity Saga. or... it could just be a bad movie
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 22:58:38 GMT 1
The guy who wrote this is writing Secret Wars. So that's concerning. He also wrote some Rick and Morty episodes, so yeah... Correction: Jeff Loveness wrote this, not Michael Waldron. Got them mixed up due to my hatred of Rick and Morty. I think Loveness is writing Kang Dynasty though. Innit?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2023 22:59:48 GMT 1
I am betting that if the movie is indeed bad it is more Peyton Reed’s doing than the screenwriter.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 15, 2023 23:26:34 GMT 1
Eternals is the worst MCU movie according to the critics. Its my favorite. Im not concerned.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 16, 2023 5:39:22 GMT 1
Wouldn't DC need to have at least ten years of solid success before they even came close to matching the MCU? Seems to me they have a lot of catching up to do. I guess we'll see how the James Gunn era of DC goes.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 16, 2023 10:00:02 GMT 1
I am betting that if the movie is indeed bad it is more Peyton Reed’s doing than the screenwriter. Nah Reed is a fine director.
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 16, 2023 13:10:25 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on Feb 16, 2023 18:41:43 GMT 1
I am betting that if the movie is indeed bad it is more Peyton Reed’s doing than the screenwriter. Maybe it's everyone's fault.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 16, 2023 19:06:15 GMT 1
I guess we'll see how the James Gunn era of DC goes. Plot twist: James Gunn secretly hates marvel and DC and is plotting their destruction!
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 17, 2023 1:32:01 GMT 1
My name is Darin!
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 17, 2023 1:33:07 GMT 1
8/10
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2023 2:31:42 GMT 1
Give us your spoiler free review!
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 17, 2023 5:39:45 GMT 1
Give us your spoiler free review! It’s back to Marvel basics with no Disney-fication. There could be more action, but this film is to set up Kang the Conqueror and his variants for future films, so there’s a lot of exposition and the dialogue is a bit too weak to carry it. It’s sounds close to comic book dialogue. But as is, is pretty fun and enjoyable. Modock takes a moment to digest. Majors is fantastic and the Ant-Man humor is there. The end credit scenes are worth the stay.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 18, 2023 0:39:35 GMT 1
How 'bout those penis buildings with tentacles (I said TENTACLES), eh? One rather significant change I noticed in the movie from the trailers was Kang promising to give Scott back the time he'd missed with Cassie. What happened to that whole plotline? Maybe the writers thought better of having yet another superhero mess with time just for their own personal gain? And what was that ending (before the credits)? Scott eats something that tastes gross - was there some significance to that which I missed? I can't say either of the credits scenes in the movie did much for me. All credit to Indiana Jones for this: comicbookmovie.com/ant_man/ant_man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-resurfaced-plot-leak-reveals-the-movies-original-ending---spoilers-a200546?ap=1#gs.ps3cpmI remember reading about the ending in that^ article quite a while back, and I have to say...I would've been quite disappointed if Kang had gotten out. Although there's still many more of him to defeat, I'm glad Scott & Hope at least got this win, as it would've felt majorly unsatisfying to me if they'd been trapped and he'd escaped. At least they can say they defeated ONE version of him (which is still quite the feat).
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 18, 2023 7:43:16 GMT 1
How 'bout those penis buildings with tentacles (I said TENTACLES), eh? One rather significant change I noticed in the movie from the trailers was Kang promising to give Scott back the time he'd missed with Cassie. What happened to that whole plotline? Maybe the writers thought better of having yet another superhero mess with time just for their own personal gain? And what was that ending (before the credits)? Scott eats something that tastes gross - was there some significance to that which I missed? I can't say either of the credits scenes in the movie did much for me. All credit to Indiana Jones for this: comicbookmovie.com/ant_man/ant_man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-resurfaced-plot-leak-reveals-the-movies-original-ending---spoilers-a200546?ap=1#gs.ps3cpmI remember reading about the ending in that^ article quite a while back, and I have to say...I would've been quite disappointed if Kang had gotten out. Although there's still many more of him to defeat, I'm glad Scott & Hope at least got this win, as it would've felt majorly unsatisfying to me if they'd been trapped and he'd escaped. At least they can say they defeated ONE version of him (which is still quite the feat). What happened to that whole plotline? I noticed too. They may have cut out a scene where Kang temps Scott images getting those Blip years back, but realizes it who and what that could destroy.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 18, 2023 15:00:21 GMT 1
Best MCU film since Endgame. Absolutely loved it.
Majors is the MVP.
Reed knocked it out of the park and made a three points shot with this touchdown
This is my MCU
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Post by Merv on Feb 18, 2023 15:56:38 GMT 1
Just sat down to see it. Nachos for breakfast isn’t that bad right?
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 18, 2023 18:25:03 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2023 21:25:07 GMT 1
I was reading reviews on IMDb and I came across one written by our own Chalice_Of_Evil !
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Post by Indiana Jones on Feb 19, 2023 3:52:38 GMT 1
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Post by LokisMom on Feb 19, 2023 4:31:07 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Feb 20, 2023 0:36:18 GMT 1
I miss Luis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 20, 2023 19:03:30 GMT 1
How 'bout those penis buildings with tentacles (I said TENTACLES), eh? One rather significant change I noticed in the movie from the trailers was Kang promising to give Scott back the time he'd missed with Cassie. What happened to that whole plotline? Maybe the writers thought better of having yet another superhero mess with time just for their own personal gain? And what was that ending (before the credits)? Scott eats something that tastes gross - was there some significance to that which I missed? I can't say either of the credits scenes in the movie did much for me. All credit to Indiana Jones for this: comicbookmovie.com/ant_man/ant_man-and-the-wasp-quantumania/ant-man-and-the-wasp-quantumania-resurfaced-plot-leak-reveals-the-movies-original-ending---spoilers-a200546?ap=1#gs.ps3cpmI remember reading about the ending in that^ article quite a while back, and I have to say...I would've been quite disappointed if Kang had gotten out. Although there's still many more of him to defeat, I'm glad Scott & Hope at least got this win, as it would've felt majorly unsatisfying to me if they'd been trapped and he'd escaped. At least they can say they defeated ONE version of him (which is still quite the feat). A friend told me they cut that. I asked about Scott’s arc, because based on the trailers I was happy he was actually getting one. And he was like “Uh… Yeah, they didn’t do Jack with that.” I’m really lowering expectations now.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 20, 2023 21:42:06 GMT 1
I sat down with the champions over the weekend to discuss Quantumania. Check out our upcoming review if you want to hear my spoiler-filled review.
For now, here is a list of my likes and dislikes.
Dislikes:
Inconsistent tone: Quantumania has problems maintaining a consistent atmosphere. One half of the movie is a light-hearted adventure film in the tradition of Inner Space or Fantastic Voyage, and the other is a life-and-death struggle that more closely resembles some of the more serious Marvel films.
Deliberate weirdness: Loveness and Waldron come from the Rick and Morty school of what I call willful weirdness. It's a trend in animated features that consists of injecting intentionally bizarre circumstances, characters, or actions into an otherwise convention narrative. This type of storytelling device seems to only exists to help lazy writers fill runtime. Think of your favorite reality-defying cartoons like Tom & Jerry or Bugs Bunny in live-action.
Weak characters: there are many storytelling foibles you can pin on the MCU, but bland or generic feeling characters usually aren't one of them. The casting department of the MCU enjoys near-legendary status for its uncanny ability to pair actors with characters. Quantumania is a notable exception.
Once you enter the Quantum realm, Quantumania has several characters I didn't care about because they were poorly drawn sci-fi/fantasy character archetypes. Whether it was the corrupt magistrate, the stoic female freedom fighter, or the scrappy band of rebels, none left an impression on me.
Lack of compelling human drama: the marketing would lead you to believe that Scott Lang embarks on a Faustian deal with Kang the Conquerer. Kang plays the proverbial devil - hand outstretched with an offer so tempting it can't be refused. What if I spoiled the movie for you and said that in exchange for retrieving a McGuffin Kang can't acquire for himself (for reasons), he promises Scott the chance to make up for the time he lost with Cassie. As the self-styled master of time, this would be well within his reach. What if I said the deal challenged Scott to rethink his decision to become the Antman? What if Kang could deliver on a non-destructive rewrite of our timeline, which rendered Thanos innocuous in some other way, and Scott got to be with Cassie? What if I told you that all the posturing you'd heard from Scott about his extraordinary life as a Podcaster, Author, and Avenger meant nothing to him compared to the chance to make up for lost time with his daughter, and he took the deal? Well - if you hate that, then don't worry, none of it actually happens in the film, and the actual circumstances are far more mundane (although partially amped up by Major's stunning performance).
I have several other smaller nits that I go through on the podcast; it would be redundant and petty to retread them here so on to my likes.
Likes:
Kang: - He did it. Majors has created what promises to be one of the most compelling villains of the genre. It's still early days for Kang, but you can tell that Majors didn't come to play; he came to "win." I've never been a diehard fan of Kang because his origins are so convoluted by now in the comics, and he's a chatty Cathy in his villainy style.
Majors has taken some of Kang's more off-putting traits from the comics and made them enjoyable in live-action. He's captured Kang's arrogance and aristocratic sense of superiority. He alone understands the true nature of reality, and he doesn't have the time to explain it to you. The human drama underlying Kang's violent sociopathy also has a lot of promise. Majors is so good he dwarfs nearly every other performance in the film - IMO.
The visual realization of the character is a near-flawless execution. Force fields, energy beams, matter manipulation, super strength, and a host of other abilities are child's play for Kang. Imagine if Tony Stark had incorporated all of the Iron Man's technology into the equivalent of a 31st-century leisure suit - tres bizarre. Kang is both fashionable and fatal.
Partners: Antman and The Wasp have been and remain one of the most effective duos in the MCU for me. Thankfully, none of that changes in Quantumania. We don't get enough of the two coming to each other's aid in this movie, but what we do get reinforces their status as partners in all things.
Giant-Man: I'm open for business eight days a week when it comes to Giant-Man. Barring Endgame, this is the best rendition of the character yet.
The second half of the film: The back half of Quantumania is a bizarre ride that sees the film live up to its oversized title. It's like reading a comic book filled with unconventional takes on pseudo-scientific concepts that are equally quirky and horrific. Loveness turns his affinity for the weird into a superpower by the midpoint in the film. This film marks a hard line in the sand for casuals who may not be able to digest this level of esoteric weirdness that we take for granted as comic book readers.
Death Grade: (see the podcast)
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