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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2021 20:47:39 GMT 1
With his formidable skills and an army at his side, Thanos attacked many a planet in the MCU but curiously never went near Asgard. link
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 23, 2021 14:30:26 GMT 1
With his formidable skills and an army at his side, Thanos attacked many a planet in the MCU but curiously never went near Asgard. linkbefore I watch this, I’d say off hand, they simply didn’t have a stone by the time he was ready to strike. Curious what they say here, but I’ve always thought it was fairly straightforward.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 15:22:36 GMT 1
Thanos never attacked Hala, Xandar, or any stratocracy in the Marvel Universe that was accustomed to sustained warfare. As large as his forces were and as powerful as Thanos is, it would have been suicide, or at the very least, an indefinite stalemate.
Worldmind and the Intelligence would have made assaults on Xandar and Hala untenable. Both constructs are proficient warmasters.
He seemed content to attack and halve worlds with little or no offensive capabilities and no notable defenders. Thanos is not a brilliant military strategist. This might explain why he decided to work with Ronan and the accusers instead of confronting the Kree empire head-on.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Feb 23, 2021 18:08:05 GMT 1
I always assumed it wasn't on route. Take out the small fries when you don't have the stones. Get the stones, get the gauntlet from that enormous elf and boom, go for the big dogs. By the time they ran into Thor and co, Thanos was probably en route to find Loki. If they were faster and Loki were still on Asgard, Asgard would be confronted with two apocalypses on the same day.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 18:13:02 GMT 1
I always assumed it wasn't on route. Take out the small fries when you don't have the stones. Get the stones, get the gauntlet from that enormous elf and boom, go for the big dogs. By the time they ran into Thor and co, Thanos was probably en route to find Loki. If they were faster and Loki were still on Asgard, Asgard would be confronted with two apocalypses on the same day.
By the time he had the stones and the gauntlet, there would have been no need to confront anyone else.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Feb 23, 2021 18:18:53 GMT 1
I always assumed it wasn't on route. Take out the small fries when you don't have the stones. Get the stones, get the gauntlet from that enormous elf and boom, go for the big dogs. By the time they ran into Thor and co, Thanos was probably en route to find Loki. If they were faster and Loki were still on Asgard, Asgard would be confronted with two apocalypses on the same day.
By the time he had the stones and the gauntlet, there would have been no need to confront anyone else. All of them but that wasn't going to happen till the end. Each stone catapulted him into new tier of planets he could attack. By the time he set out with one ring, the progress and accompanying damage was accumulative.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 18:35:57 GMT 1
By the time he had the stones and the gauntlet, there would have been no need to confront anyone else. All of them but that wasn't going to happen till the end. Each stone catapulted him into new tier of planets he could attack. By the time he set out with one ring, the progress and accompanying damage was accumulative. Thanos originally started attacking planets like Zen-Whoberi because he had no other means of achieving his goals (halving all life in the universe). Once he began to accumulate stones, there was no real reason to attack a world unless A). it had a stone he needed or B). they actively opposed him. He only attacked the Asgardians because Loki had the tesseract (and was among them). Once he had any number of stones in his possession, the strategic move would be to find all of the others and perform the snap. His original attacks, as a warlord, on lesser planets, was likely a side effect of chasing down leads to the whereabouts of stones.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Feb 23, 2021 18:42:33 GMT 1
All of them but that wasn't going to happen till the end. Each stone catapulted him into new tier of planets he could attack. By the time he set out with one ring, the progress and accompanying damage was accumulative. Thanos originally started attacking planets like Zen-Whoberi because he had no other means of achieving his goals (halving all life in the universe). Once he began to accumulate stones, there was no real reason to attack a world unless A). it had a stone he needed or B). they actively opposed him. He only attacked the Asgardians because Loki had the tesseract (and was among them). Once he had any number of stones in his possession, the strategic move would be to find all of the others and perform the snap. His original attacks, as a warlord, on lesser planets, was likely a side effect of chasing down leads to the whereabouts of stones. I was also going to guess the presence of Bor was a deterrent until I read the article. Now it just seems like copying, but it might not be untrue. The span of time between Bor's death in Ragnarok and Thanos intercepting the Asgardian caravan was only two days, maybe less than. It might have been an instantaneous attack if Thanos had the space stone but he didn't so he had to go the long way,
We're not saying that much that's different. I agree that it makes sense to halt your attack on planets that are capable of sustaining long-term advanced warfare. Asgard was fairly high on the list because of entities like Bor. His presence was like a load bearing post in the universe. I wouldn't be surprised if word of his death got Thanos out of the chair, but that coincidence seemed to coalesce with the plan.
I don't agree though about the reason for his attacks on lesser planets. It's possible but we saw at least one instance of genocide by half, on Gamora's home planet in flashback.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 23, 2021 19:06:16 GMT 1
Yeah after reading this, I don’t think there’s even any need for a theory here. There wasn’t a pressing need to go after Asgard. He was working on finding other stones. He wasn’t going to launch an all out assault for one if he didn’t have to.
I don’t think there’s any mystery here
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 19:09:14 GMT 1
Thanos originally started attacking planets like Zen-Whoberi because he had no other means of achieving his goals (halving all life in the universe). Once he began to accumulate stones, there was no real reason to attack a world unless A). it had a stone he needed or B). they actively opposed him. He only attacked the Asgardians because Loki had the tesseract (and was among them). Once he had any number of stones in his possession, the strategic move would be to find all of the others and perform the snap. His original attacks, as a warlord, on lesser planets, was likely a side effect of chasing down leads to the whereabouts of stones. I was also going to guess the presence of Bor was a deterrent until I read the article. Now it just seems like copying, but it might not be untrue. The span of time between Bor's death in Ragnarok and Thanos intercepting the Asgardian caravan was only two days, maybe less than. It might have been an instantaneous attack if Thanos had the space stone but he didn't so he had to go the long way,
We're not saying that much that's different. I agree that it makes sense to halt your attack on planets that are capable of sustaining long-term advanced warfare. Asgard was fairly high on the list because of entities like Bor. His presence was like a load bearing post in the universe. I wouldn't be surprised if word of his death got Thanos out of the chair, but that coincidence seemed to coalesce with the plan.
I don't agree though about the reason for his attacks on lesser planets. It's possible but we saw at least one instance of genocide by half, on Gamora's home planet in flashback.
True, he attacked Zen-Whoberi because it was "overpopulated" and defenseless.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 19:11:11 GMT 1
Yeah after reading this, I don’t think there’s even any need for a theory here. There was pressing to go after Asgard. He was working on finding other stones. He wasn’t going to launch an all out assault for one if he didn’t have to. I don’t think there’s any mystery here Yeah... Odin had control of the nine realms before he turned to peace. It wouldn't have been easy to oppose him at any early point in history.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 23, 2021 19:22:07 GMT 1
Yeah after reading this, I don’t think there’s even any need for a theory here. There was pressing to go after Asgard. He was working on finding other stones. He wasn’t going to launch an all out assault for one if he didn’t have to. I don’t think there’s any mystery here Yeah... Odin had control of the nine realms before he turned to peace. It wouldn't have been easy to oppose him at any early point in history. Im sure he was considering the possibility of having to siege Agard. I assume he would have done it and was a little pissed when the Orb got locked on Xandar because it meant two large campaigns. But then he traded bad luck for good when Loki freed the Tesseract. Either way, he was waiting until he knew where most of the Stones were and had a plan to get them.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 23, 2021 19:28:14 GMT 1
Yeah... Odin had control of the nine realms before he turned to peace. It wouldn't have been easy to oppose him at any early point in history. Im sure he was considering the possibility of having to siege Agard. I assume he would have done it and was a little pissed when the Orb got locked on Xandar because it meant two large campaigns. But then he traded bad luck for good when Loki freed the Tesseract. Either way, he was waiting until he knew where most of the Stones were and had a plan to get them. Yeah, and being an Eternal helps. If things didn't work out his way today, all he had to do was wait for another opportunity. He literally had all of the time in the universe to watch the fortunes and defense postures of entire civilizations change.
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