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Post by Indiana Jones on Feb 10, 2021 19:38:11 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Feb 10, 2021 20:39:50 GMT 1
That's the type of news that'll make Joss Whedon wish he stayed in bed this morning.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 21:29:36 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 21:40:22 GMT 1
Still don't believe it. I can't anymore. Too many people have been cancalled for no reason for me to believe it anymore. I don't even believe the Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein allegations anymore.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 10, 2021 21:51:11 GMT 1
There is plenty of evidence, going back as far as a decade, that strongly suggests that Joss Whedon loves to frequently cast himself as the heel in his interactions with his fellow humans.
I don't mind jerks. Psychopathy isn't a bad thing if it is harnessed to useful ends. It's Joss's near-comical hypocrisy that turned me off of his work and cult of personality. He claims to be a feminist. In the immortal words of Ray Winstone in the criminally underrated Edge of Darkness, "By what standard?" Pitting women against each other in a Hunger Games-style competition where they must overcome your abuse to have a chance to compete for your non-existent affection?
Most people here don't seem to believe Ray Fisher's allegations, and at the very least, they question his motivations. I neither believe nor disbelieve Ray Fisher. If his situation were a body for which you were tasked with determining the cause of death, the ruling would be inconclusive - IMO. But, uncertainty is something most people are not comfortable with, and I totally get that.
The logical fallacy to be avoided is that even if Ray is the heir to Jussie Smollett's imaginary throne, does that automatically make WB blameless in any wrongdoing that might have transpired on set?
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Feb 10, 2021 22:55:47 GMT 1
Oh shit!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2021 23:08:49 GMT 1
There is plenty of evidence, going back as far as a decade, that strongly suggests that Joss Whedon loves to frequently cast himself as the heel in his interactions with his fellow humans. I don't mind jerks. Psychopathy isn't a bad thing if it is harnessed to useful ends. It's Joss's near-comical hypocrisy that turned me off of his work and cult of personality. He claims to be a feminist. In the immortal words of Ray Winstone in the criminally underrated Edge of Darkness, "By what standard?" Pitting women against each other in a Hunger Games-style competition where they must overcome your abuse to have a chance to compete for your non-existent affection? Most people here don't seem to believe Ray Fisher's allegations, and at the very least, they question his motivations. I neither believe nor disbelieve Ray Fisher. If his situation were a body for which you were tasked with determining the cause of death, the ruling would be inconclusive - IMO. But, uncertainty is something most people are not comfortable with, and I totally get that. The logical fallacy to be avoided is that even if Ray is the heir to Jussie Smollett's imaginary throne, does that automatically make WB blameless in any wrongdoing that might have transpired on set?No, but Fisher being fishy weakens all arguments against them.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Feb 10, 2021 23:18:45 GMT 1
Thatβs surprising. I think James Marsters shared a story about an angry Whedon confronting him over Spikeβs popularity.
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Post by AQUA JAR!β’ on Feb 10, 2021 23:20:42 GMT 1
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 11, 2021 0:14:19 GMT 1
Unless some authority finds this claim worthy of some sort of hearing, I donβt care about this entire thing at all.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 11, 2021 0:21:58 GMT 1
I've read all the articles in Deadline and I have yet to see 1 specific allegation.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 11, 2021 1:41:50 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 1:56:07 GMT 1
I've read all the articles in Deadline and I have yet to see 1 specific allegation. This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 2:44:56 GMT 1
I've read all the articles in Deadline and I have yet to see 1 specific allegation. This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture. Lol so dumb
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Post by AQUA JAR!β’ on Feb 11, 2021 2:49:34 GMT 1
This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture. Lol so dumb IT'Z SPELLED DUM !!!1
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 11, 2021 2:52:20 GMT 1
I've read all the articles in Deadline and I have yet to see 1 specific allegation. This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 2:53:41 GMT 1
This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture. Lol so dumb And people wonder I've just stopped believing all "[x] public figure did [y]" accusations?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 2:54:29 GMT 1
This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture. I wonder if anyone who has ever given the Raimi crew crap about that.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:42:55 GMT 1
This is the same mentality which nearly got Sebastian Stan nearly cancelled last year when someone unearthed a picture of an ex-girlfriend of his wearing a kimono at a theme party. Yeah, he was nearly cancelled because he once dated someone who wore attire from outside her own culture. Only time I found her hot
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:44:18 GMT 1
Still don't believe it. I can't anymore. Too many people have been cancalled for no reason for me to believe it anymore. I don't even believe the Bill Cosby and Harvey Weinstein allegations anymore. Probably a plot to ruin the mcu
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:46:05 GMT 1
Sounds like a real douche. I wonder if any of The Avengers cast will say something next. And how will some our resident hardcore Marvel fans know whose side to take then! πππππππ
I kid. I kid. Take it easy, guys.
...Seriously though itβd be fun to read the responses if that happens! ππππππππ
Just kidding, guys, Donβt hate me.
...But really, itβll be fun. ππππππ
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:47:49 GMT 1
Sounds like a real douche. I wonder if any of The Avengers cast will say something next. And how will some our resident hardcore Marvel fans know whose side to take then! πππππππ I kid. I kid. Take it easy, guys. ...Seriously though itβd be fun to read the responses if that happens! ππππππππ Just kidding, guys, Donβt hate me. ...But really, itβll be fun. ππππππ I still love his work
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:49:54 GMT 1
Sounds like a real douche. I wonder if any of The Avengers cast will say something next. And how will some our resident hardcore Marvel fans know whose side to take then! πππππππ I kid. I kid. Take it easy, guys. ...Seriously though itβd be fun to read the responses if that happens! ππππππππ Just kidding, guys, Donβt hate me. ...But really, itβll be fun. ππππππ I still love his work So do I. Well, The Avengers anyway. Lots of celebs are douche bags so I can separate the man from the work.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:51:21 GMT 1
So do I. Well, The Avengers anyway. Lots of celebs are douche bags so I can separate the man from the work. Even Spacey? Thats where I draw the line. Dont forget Firefly too
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:54:11 GMT 1
So do I. Well, The Avengers anyway. Lots of celebs are douche bags so I can separate the man from the work. Even Spacey? Thats where I draw the line. Dont forget Firefly too Spacey is hard not to be creeped out by. I never really liked many of his movies but I do still watch and enjoy LA Confidential. Firefly: Never seen it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 3:58:15 GMT 1
Even Spacey? Thats where I draw the line. Dont forget Firefly too Spacey is hard not to be creeped out by. I never really liked many of his movies but I do still watch and enjoy LA Confidential. Firefly: Never seen it. LAC is one of my favourite films. Also stars my favourite actor Watch Firefly immediately you neanderthal
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 4:00:29 GMT 1
Spacey is hard not to be creeped out by. I never really liked many of his movies but I do still watch and enjoy LA Confidential. Firefly: Never seen it. LAC is one of my favourite films. Also stars my favourite actor Watch Firefly immediately you neanderthal Favorite actor: Russel Crowe? Is it because heβs Australian? So does Spaceyβs presence bother you in LA C?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 4:01:59 GMT 1
LAC is one of my favourite films. Also stars my favourite actor Watch Firefly immediately you neanderthal Favorite actor: Russel Crowe? Is it because heβs Australian? So does Spaceyβs presence bother you in LA C? Technically a New Zealander. It is because of Gladiator No, he's still despicable though
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 4:04:09 GMT 1
Favorite actor: Russel Crowe? Is it because heβs Australian? So does Spaceyβs presence bother you in LA C? Technically a New Zealander. It is because of Gladiator No, he's still despicable though I would never defend a despicable actor because I like their work. I just merely meant that sometimes I can set that aside and just enjoy the work as itβs own thing. Sometimes itβs hard though.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2021 6:43:45 GMT 1
I've read all the articles in Deadline and I have yet to see 1 specific allegation. He supposedly told Buffy that she was buff. Inappropriate!
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