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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 6, 2021 0:04:42 GMT 1
Updated with Wandavision 01. Avengers Endgame 02. Avengers Infinity War 03. Black Panther 04. Thor Ragnarok 05. Captain America Civil War 06. WandaVision 07. Doctor Strange 08. Captain America The Winter Soldier 09. Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 10. The Avengers 11. Spider-man Far From Home 12. Guardians of the Galaxy 13. Ant-man and the Wasp 14. Spider-man Homecoming 15. Captain Marvel 16. Ant-man 17. Captain America The First Avenger 18. Iron Man 3 19. The Incredible Hulk 20. Iron Man 21. Avengers Age of Ultron 22. Thor 23. Iron Man 2 24. Thor The Dark World BUTT THATZ KNOT A MOVIE !!!!!1So? Its in the franchise called MCU. If I dont include it the list is incomplete.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Mar 6, 2021 0:12:33 GMT 1
BUTT THATZ KNOT A MOVIE !!!!!1 So? Its in the franchise called MCU. If I dont include it the list is incomplete. the thread title specifies "movies" though
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Mar 6, 2021 0:24:52 GMT 1
Yeah Wandavision is a series. I'd rank it above Iron Fist season 1 & 2, Jessica Jones season 2 & 3, and half of Agents of Shield.
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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 6, 2021 5:47:59 GMT 1
Yeah Wandavision is a series. I'd rank it above Iron Fist season 1 & 2, Jessica Jones season 2 & 3, and half of Agents of Shield. Those are not MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 6:49:16 GMT 1
Yeah Wandavision is a series. I'd rank it above Iron Fist season 1 & 2, Jessica Jones season 2 & 3, and half of Agents of Shield. Those are not MCU. Wait... what?! They aren’t? What about Daredevil?!
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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 6, 2021 6:59:44 GMT 1
Wait... what?! They aren’t? What about Daredevil?! Feige wants nothing to do with what Loeb did.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 7:00:57 GMT 1
Wait... what?! They aren’t? What about Daredevil?! Feige wants nothing to do with what Loeb did. Oh! When did this happen? I remember back on the old IMDb the fan base was very defensive when it came to these shows being canon.
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Post by AQUA CAT! on Mar 6, 2021 21:25:13 GMT 1
Yeah Wandavision is a series. I'd rank it above Iron Fist season 1 & 2, Jessica Jones season 2 & 3, and half of Agents of Shield. Those are not MCU. I got the impression they were. They reference things in the movies, sparingly but it happens. Like in Jessica Jones season 2 they were going to send her mother to the same prison they sent Wanda, Clint, etc in Civil War. I don't know about Agents of Shield but I was positive the Netflix Defenders stuff was all MCU.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2021 23:07:33 GMT 1
I got the impression they were. They reference things in the movies, sparingly but it happens. Like in Jessica Jones season 2 they were going to send her mother to the same prison they sent Wanda, Clint, etc in Civil War. I don't know about Agents of Shield but I was positive the Netflix Defenders stuff was all MCU. It was just Disney trying to have their cake and eat it too. They pretended like they were canon to promote them, but they were never going to play into the main series. Agent Coulson was “resurrected” to promote their ABC series even though he was dead and always will be dead in the main canon. Honestly, this is one reason why I am hesitant to care about these new streeeeaaaaming shows. Fans can say they’re essential, but I’ve heard that before. Fool me once and all that.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 0:33:43 GMT 1
I got the impression they were. They reference things in the movies, sparingly but it happens. Like in Jessica Jones season 2 they were going to send her mother to the same prison they sent Wanda, Clint, etc in Civil War. I don't know about Agents of Shield but I was positive the Netflix Defenders stuff was all MCU. It was just Disney trying to have their cake and eat it too. They pretended like they were canon to promote them, but they were never going to play into the main series. Agent Coulson was “resurrected” to promote their ABC series even though he was dead and always will be dead in the main canon. Honestly, this is one reason why I am hesitant to care about these new streeeeaaaaming shows. Fans can say they’re essential, but I’ve heard that before. Fool me once and all that. I can tell you right now they established several new major developments that will absolutely play into everything going forward. This is nothing like past TV shows.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 0:37:27 GMT 1
I got the impression they were. They reference things in the movies, sparingly but it happens. Like in Jessica Jones season 2 they were going to send her mother to the same prison they sent Wanda, Clint, etc in Civil War. I don't know about Agents of Shield but I was positive the Netflix Defenders stuff was all MCU. My continuing POV on this is Paris. Paris exists in the real world right now. It doesn’t matter if it references you or if you reference it, Paris is cannon to Earth. The world feels bigger when everybody doesn’t know everybody. So I’ve always thought it made it better to have characters which don’t interact much. It doesn’t make them not cannon. It makes the world bigger.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 1:52:24 GMT 1
It was just Disney trying to have their cake and eat it too. They pretended like they were canon to promote them, but they were never going to play into the main series. Agent Coulson was “resurrected” to promote their ABC series even though he was dead and always will be dead in the main canon. Honestly, this is one reason why I am hesitant to care about these new streeeeaaaaming shows. Fans can say they’re essential, but I’ve heard that before. Fool me once and all that. I can tell you right now they established several new major developments that will absolutely play into everything going forward. This is nothing like past TV shows. I heard the same thing about Daredevil and Agents of Shield. Fans were convinced that Coulson would show up in the movies.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 4:14:46 GMT 1
I got the impression they were. They reference things in the movies, sparingly but it happens. Like in Jessica Jones season 2 they were going to send her mother to the same prison they sent Wanda, Clint, etc in Civil War. I don't know about Agents of Shield but I was positive the Netflix Defenders stuff was all MCU. It was just Disney trying to have their cake and eat it too. They pretended like they were canon to promote them, but they were never going to play into the main series. Agent Coulson was “resurrected” to promote their ABC series even though he was dead and always will be dead in the main canon. Honestly, this is one reason why I am hesitant to care about these new streeeeaaaaming shows. Fans can say they’re essential, but I’ve heard that before. Fool me once and all that. They were going to be play into the main series. The actors even had film contracts for appearances. Then the infighting between Feige and Perlmutter started, destroying any chances of that. These new series are all being produced by Feige and without any red-tape that comes from them being produced by another faction within the studio who doesn't like him standing in the way.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 4:52:13 GMT 1
I can tell you right now they established several new major developments that will absolutely play into everything going forward. This is nothing like past TV shows. I heard the same thing about Daredevil and Agents of Shield. Fans were convinced that Coulson would show up in the movies. Its not just talk here. It’s absolutely happening. The ending leads right into multiple different projects. This isn’t TV you’re used to. It’s on another level now.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 5:40:32 GMT 1
I heard the same thing about Daredevil and Agents of Shield. Fans were convinced that Coulson would show up in the movies. Its not just talk here. It’s absolutely happening. The ending leads right into multiple different projects. This isn’t TV you’re used to. It’s on another level now. I heard that about AoS too.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 9:47:54 GMT 1
Its not just talk here. It’s absolutely happening. The ending leads right into multiple different projects. This isn’t TV you’re used to. It’s on another level now. I heard that about AoS too. You're understanding me right? I’m being serious.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 19:19:44 GMT 1
I heard that about AoS too. You're understanding me right? I’m being serious. I get you. I still say this is somewhat similar though. Coulson’s resurrection was never going to be referenced in the movies because it would confuse audiences who didn’t watch the show. Yet fans always insisted he would appear when it was obvious he wouldn’t. So as far as the movies were concerned it didn’t happen. Now all of a sudden it’s not even considered canon by many. That’s honestly kind of hilarious to me when looking back. The DisneyFlix shows are canon, of course. But I don’t think they will ever be necessary to fully understand the movie saga. I will see the ones that interest me eventually, but I don’t think I’ll ever be all that enthusiastic about them.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 19:33:52 GMT 1
You're understanding me right? I’m being serious. I get you. I still say this is somewhat similar though. Coulson’s resurrection was never going to be referenced in the movies because it would confuse audiences who didn’t watch the show. Yet fans always insisted he would appear when it was obvious he wouldn’t. So as far as the movies were concerned it didn’t happen. Now all of a sudden it’s not even considered canon by many. The DisneyFlix shows are canon, of course. But I don’t think they will ever be necessary to fully understand the movie saga. To an extent you're right, but that's the same with most any of their films. Endgame is probably the only one that you truly had to watch the others to appreciate. That's how WandaVision feels, and likely all of these shows. When you watch Doctor Strange 2, you won't have needed to watch WV, but you'll have missed Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch. You'll have missed Vision evolving. You'll have missed Monica's origin. These are a massive moments of character growth. It's as important as anything they've done in the films.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 19:35:50 GMT 1
I get you. I still say this is somewhat similar though. Coulson’s resurrection was never going to be referenced in the movies because it would confuse audiences who didn’t watch the show. Yet fans always insisted he would appear when it was obvious he wouldn’t. So as far as the movies were concerned it didn’t happen. Now all of a sudden it’s not even considered canon by many. The DisneyFlix shows are canon, of course. But I don’t think they will ever be necessary to fully understand the movie saga. To an extent you're right, but that's the same with most any of their films. Endgame is probably the only one that you truly had to watch the others to appreciate. That's how WandaVision feels, and likely all of these shows. When you watch Doctor Strange 2, you won't have needed to watch WV, but you'll have missed Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch. You'll have missed Vision evolving. You'll have missed Monica's origin. These are a massive moments of character growth. It's as important as anything they've done in the films. I’ll watch WV. And probably Falcon. Not sure about any of the others though yet.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Mar 7, 2021 19:41:25 GMT 1
To an extent you're right, but that's the same with most any of their films. Endgame is probably the only one that you truly had to watch the others to appreciate. That's how WandaVision feels, and likely all of these shows. When you watch Doctor Strange 2, you won't have needed to watch WV, but you'll have missed Wanda becoming the Scarlet Witch. You'll have missed Vision evolving. You'll have missed Monica's origin. These are a massive moments of character growth. It's as important as anything they've done in the films. I’ll watch WV. And probably Falcon. Not sure about any of the others though yet. I'll try and give you a ranking level of Must Watch to Skippable ;-) And I won't lead you astray
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 19:54:42 GMT 1
You're understanding me right? I’m being serious. I get you. I still say this is somewhat similar though. Coulson’s resurrection was never going to be referenced in the movies because it would confuse audiences who didn’t watch the show. Yet fans always insisted he would appear when it was obvious he wouldn’t. So as far as the movies were concerned it didn’t happen. Now all of a sudden it’s not even considered canon by many. That’s honestly kind of hilarious to me when looking back.
The DisneyFlix shows are canon, of course. But I don’t think they will ever be necessary to fully understand the movie saga. I will see the ones that interest me eventually, but I don’t think I’ll ever be all that enthusiastic about them. I'll telling you, that ended up not panning out because of a power struggle between Feige and Perlmutter within the company. Feige was put in charge of the movies as of Age of Ultron's production closed up, because half of their talent was talking about leaving due to how Perlmutter ran things. So Disney did what they could to alleviate the situation by pushing Perlmutter to the side as they could, which meant separating Marvel motion-picture productions into two sectors, the films and TV/Netflix, the latter of which Perlmutter was allowed to remain in charge of while Disney figured out how to get rid of him for good. Unfortunately, you can't just fire a well-connected billionaire on a dime. They tried any number of times to iron out the details, but Feige and Perlmutter were never able to come to an agreement about it. This is all well-documented stuff.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Mar 7, 2021 19:59:35 GMT 1
Honestly in a way I'm kinda glad that Coulson never returned from the dead in the films simply because it would ruined the impact it had in the Avengers since his death was the glue to get them to reunite against loki.
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Post by Grandmaster on Apr 23, 2021 19:37:10 GMT 1
New no.1 y'all
01. The Falcon and The Winter Soldier 02. Avengers Endgame 03. Avengers Infinity War 04. Black Panther 05. Thor Ragnarok 06. Captain America Civil War 07. WandaVision 08. Doctor Strange 09. Captain America The Winter Soldier 10. Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 11. The Avengers 12. Spider-man Far From Home 13. Guardians of the Galaxy 14. Ant-man and the Wasp 15. Spider-man Homecoming 16. Captain Marvel 17. Ant-man 18. Captain America The First Avenger 19. Iron Man 3 20. The Incredible Hulk 21. Iron Man 22. Avengers Age of Ultron 23. Thor 24. Iron Man 2 25. Thor The Dark World
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 14, 2021 9:49:11 GMT 1
Updated list (Black Widow and Loki)
01. The Falcon and The Winter Soldier 02. Avengers Endgame 03. Avengers Infinity War 04. Black Panther 05. Thor Ragnarok 06. Captain America Civil War 07. WandaVision 08. Doctor Strange 09. Captain America The Winter Soldier 10. Guardians of the Galaxy vol. 2 11. The Avengers 12. Loki 13. Black Widow 14. Spider-man Far From Home 15. Guardians of the Galaxy 16. Ant-man and the Wasp 17. Spider-man Homecoming 18. Captain Marvel 19. Ant-man 20. Captain America The First Avenger 21. Iron Man 3 22. The Incredible Hulk 23. Iron Man 24. Avengers Age of Ultron 25. Thor 26. Iron Man 2 27. Thor The Dark World
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 14, 2021 23:50:49 GMT 1
Just wanted give the latest update to my MCU rankings. And the latest update is, I still have not completed a ranking. Tune in next time to find out if I ever do :-)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 3:13:00 GMT 1
Just wanted give the latest update to my MCU rankings. And the latest update is, I still have not completed a ranking. Tune in next time to find out if I ever do :-) Oh yeah, I was helping with that at one point, wasn’t I? We were making good progress.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jul 15, 2021 3:54:16 GMT 1
Just wanted give the latest update to my MCU rankings. And the latest update is, I still have not completed a ranking. Tune in next time to find out if I ever do :-) Oh yeah, I was helping with that at one point, wasn’t I? We were making good progress. Yes. You started bottom up and we got about 4 in and I couldn’t make a decision.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 15, 2021 8:25:05 GMT 1
Oh yeah, I was helping with that at one point, wasn’t I? We were making good progress. Yes. You started bottom up and we got about 4 in and I couldn’t make a decision. So you are a woman than? @oceans11 , see this is another nasty joke designed to make ArArArchStanton uncomfortable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2021 12:42:54 GMT 1
Yes. You started bottom up and we got about 4 in and I couldn’t make a decision. So you are a woman than? @oceans11 , see this is another nasty joke designed to make ArArArchStanton uncomfortable. How did you know?
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Post by Grandmaster on Jul 15, 2021 13:21:09 GMT 1
So you are a woman than? @oceans11 , see this is another nasty joke designed to make ArArArchStanton uncomfortable. How did you know? I am the Grandmaster of nasty jokes. Everybody will be a victim Most of all me.
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