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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 18, 2021 17:50:22 GMT 1
It's the little things that add up in the MCU. During a recent rewatch of Captain Marvel with a friend, I pointed out how formidable Kree technology appeared to be in the movie, especially when it comes to Starforce. My buddy shrugged and said nonchalantly, "I bet Iron Man could whip them ALL easily." My first instinct was to agree with that statement given Tony's resourcefulness, ingenuity, and the overall power of the Iron Man. But that didn't seem right. Even at Endgame bleeding edge-levels, the Iron Man should be no match for Kree technology. Isn't the Kree an advanced civilization with tens of thousands of years of scientific and technological development? Tony Stark is the smartest person on the planet, but the most intelligent ant on an ant farm is still an ant. So I set myself to the task of pondering this nerdy problem - a Kree battle suit, which appears to be a standard-issue uniform (with some optional add-ons), vs. the Iron Man. The Kree uniform has more in common with the Iron Man than you might think. Both outfits are essentially personal combat systems tailored to the wearer. They both offer protection from hostile environments, active camouflage, communications systems, and assistive technologies (i.e., all the holograms and stuff). That said, a Kree uniform is a standard-issue battle suit with some add-ons, and the Iron Man is a one-of-kind piece of technology that is too complex and expensive to mass-produce. Tony has access to a vast array of conventional (mostly miniaturized) munitions and directed energy weapons. By the time we get to Endgame, the Iron Man essentially has a nanotechnology-based manufacturing plant built inside it, which allows for the on-demand fabrication of basic weapons and replacement parts. Yon Rogg's standard-issue uniform has what appears to be a Kinesis-type add-on built into the gauntlets. The units emit some unified field that acts as a repulsor beam, a tractor beam, and a gyrokinetic beam all in one. I loved the versatility of the units and their design; it makes a lot of sense to award them to a field commander. While Tony could probably beat Starforce via plot armor, it would be difficult to say he could compete with a civilization that has mastered manipulating fundamental forces like gravity and more exotic forms of energy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 20:06:21 GMT 1
It's the little things that add up in the MCU. During a recent rewatch of Captain Marvel with a friend, I pointed out how formidable Kree technology appeared to be in the movie, especially when it comes to Starforce. My buddy shrugged and said nonchalantly, "I bet Iron Man could whip them ALL easily." My first instinct was to agree with that statement given Tony's resourcefulness, ingenuity, and the overall power of the Iron Man. But that didn't seem right. Even at Endgame bleeding edge-levels, the Iron Man should be no match for Kree technology. Isn't the Kree an advanced civilization with tens of thousands of years of scientific and technological development? Tony Stark is the smartest person on the planet, but the most intelligent ant on an ant farm is still an ant. So I set myself to the task of pondering this nerdy problem - a Kree battle suit, which appears to be a standard-issue uniform (with some optional add-ons), vs. the Iron Man. The Kree uniform has more in common with the Iron Man than you might think. Both outfits are essentially personal combat systems tailored to the wearer. They both offer protection from hostile environments, active camouflage, communications systems, and assistive technologies (i.e., all the holograms and stuff). That said, a Kree uniform is a standard-issue battle suit with some add-ons, and the Iron Man is a one-of-kind piece of technology that is too complex and expensive to mass-produce. Tony has access to a vast array of conventional (mostly miniaturized) munitions and directed energy weapons. By the time we get to Endgame, the Iron Man essentially has a nanotechnology-based manufacturing plant built inside it, which allows for the on-demand fabrication of basic weapons and replacement parts. Yon Rogg's standard-issue uniform has what appears to be a Kinesis-type add-on built into the gauntlets. The units emit some unified field that acts as a repulsor beam, a tractor beam, and a gyrokinetic beam all in one. I loved the versatility of the units and their design; it makes a lot of sense to award them to a field commander. While Tony could probably beat Starforce via plot armor, it would be difficult to say he could compete with a civilization that has mastered manipulating fundamental forces like gravity and more exotic forms of energy. Yeah logically no lol, Iron Man would get his arse handed to him. He shouldntve even been able to take on Thanos. He's kinda like the mcu Batman in that way re plot armour
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2021 20:15:32 GMT 1
On that note it actually made less sense for the Hulk to be beaten by Thanos too lol, speaking of irony. Although as much sense you want to make of limitless anger to strength proportionality to boot
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 18, 2021 20:16:20 GMT 1
It's the little things that add up in the MCU. During a recent rewatch of Captain Marvel with a friend, I pointed out how formidable Kree technology appeared to be in the movie, especially when it comes to Starforce. My buddy shrugged and said nonchalantly, "I bet Iron Man could whip them ALL easily." My first instinct was to agree with that statement given Tony's resourcefulness, ingenuity, and the overall power of the Iron Man. But that didn't seem right. Even at Endgame bleeding edge-levels, the Iron Man should be no match for Kree technology. Isn't the Kree an advanced civilization with tens of thousands of years of scientific and technological development? Tony Stark is the smartest person on the planet, but the most intelligent ant on an ant farm is still an ant. So I set myself to the task of pondering this nerdy problem - a Kree battle suit, which appears to be a standard-issue uniform (with some optional add-ons), vs. the Iron Man. The Kree uniform has more in common with the Iron Man than you might think. Both outfits are essentially personal combat systems tailored to the wearer. They both offer protection from hostile environments, active camouflage, communications systems, and assistive technologies (i.e., all the holograms and stuff). That said, a Kree uniform is a standard-issue battle suit with some add-ons, and the Iron Man is a one-of-kind piece of technology that is too complex and expensive to mass-produce. Tony has access to a vast array of conventional (mostly miniaturized) munitions and directed energy weapons. By the time we get to Endgame, the Iron Man essentially has a nanotechnology-based manufacturing plant built inside it, which allows for the on-demand fabrication of basic weapons and replacement parts. Yon Rogg's standard-issue uniform has what appears to be a Kinesis-type add-on built into the gauntlets. The units emit some unified field that acts as a repulsor beam, a tractor beam, and a gyrokinetic beam all in one. I loved the versatility of the units and their design; it makes a lot of sense to award them to a field commander. While Tony could probably beat Starforce via plot armor, it would be difficult to say he could compete with a civilization that has mastered manipulating fundamental forces like gravity and more exotic forms of energy. Yeah logically no lol, Iron Man would get his arse handed to him. He shouldntve even been able to take on Thanos. He's kinda like the mcu Batman in that way re plot armour No one but Thor should have had a reasonable chance at defeating Thanos... The reason I bring all of this up is because it shows how thoughtfully the Kree were conceptualized in Captain Marvel, and the sense of scale in the MCU. A 90s-era Kree uniform would be more than a match for 2010s era Iron Man armor. They'd likely be amused at Tony's design-choices - including the decision to encase himself in a metal can.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 18, 2021 20:42:36 GMT 1
On that note it actually made less sense for the Hulk to be beaten by Thanos too lol, speaking of irony. Although as much sense you want to make of limitless anger to strength proportionality to boot In the Hulk vs. Thanos debate, I tend to lean towards Thanos. Thanos is an Eternal (and a Deviant) with centuries of practical combat experience. He spent most of his adult life looking for ways to enhance his strength and reflexes through occult or scientific means. That's not to say he should own the Hulk in a fight, but the idea of the Hulk winning being a foregone conclusion doesn't take Thanos' centuries of 'juicing' into account.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 21, 2021 18:28:13 GMT 1
AoS peeps - which season and episodes do you have to watch to get to the Kree invasion arc? Am I told they covered the creation of the Inhumans? I don't know how I could have missed that. I don't have time to watch the entire show, but a Kree on AoS cheat sheet would help. I appreciate any help you can provide, and if I've tagged the wrong individuals, apologies. ArArArchStanton , taylorfirst1 , @shadowbiz , Jayman, detour
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jan 21, 2021 19:12:27 GMT 1
AoS peeps - which season and episodes do you have to watch to get to the Kree invasion arc? Am I told they covered the creation of the Inhumans? I don't know how I could have missed that. I don't have time to watch the entire show, but a Kree on AoS cheat sheet would help. I appreciate any help you can provide, and if I've tagged the wrong individuals, apologies. ArArArchStanton , taylorfirst1 , @shadowbiz , Jayman, detourI’ll take a little further look into it but the Kree do pop up occasionally. The only real big season for them is season 5 where they really influence most of the season. But S2E12 has a run in with Sif on the hunt for a Kree spy on Earth And S3E19 ends with Hive summoning Kree warriors There are some references to them throughout seasons 2 and 3 as they get into the Inhumans arc and its origins but I don’t believe a whole lot of detail comes out of that other than the artifacts responsible were made by or possessed by the Kree at one point. I’ll see if I can find other key eps.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 21, 2021 20:25:20 GMT 1
AoS peeps - which season and episodes do you have to watch to get to the Kree invasion arc? Am I told they covered the creation of the Inhumans? I don't know how I could have missed that. I don't have time to watch the entire show, but a Kree on AoS cheat sheet would help. I appreciate any help you can provide, and if I've tagged the wrong individuals, apologies. ArArArchStanton , taylorfirst1 , @shadowbiz , Jayman , detour I’ll take a little further look into it but the Kree do pop up occasionally. The only real big season for them is season 5 where they really influence most of the season. But S2E12 has a run in with Sif on the hunt for a Kree spy on Earth And S3E19 ends with Hive summoning Kree warriors There are some references to them throughout seasons 2 and 3 as they get into the Inhumans arc and its origins but I don’t believe a whole lot of detail comes out of that other than the artifacts responsible were made by or possessed by the Kree at one point. I’ll see if I can find other key eps. Thanks, man. You rock. I'm a Kree fanboy, and I can't believe I missed all of this AoS content featuring my favorite Marvel aliens.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jan 21, 2021 20:40:11 GMT 1
I’ll take a little further look into it but the Kree do pop up occasionally. The only real big season for them is season 5 where they really influence most of the season. But S2E12 has a run in with Sif on the hunt for a Kree spy on Earth And S3E19 ends with Hive summoning Kree warriors There are some references to them throughout seasons 2 and 3 as they get into the Inhumans arc and its origins but I don’t believe a whole lot of detail comes out of that other than the artifacts responsible were made by or possessed by the Kree at one point. I’ll see if I can find other key eps. Thanks, man. You rock. I'm a Kree fanboy, and I can't believe I missed all of this AoS content featuring my favorite Marvel aliens. Not to give too much away but most of their involvement revolves around the emergence of Inhumans and their relationship to them. There isn’t a massive presence of them in the show but their motivations are made clear. If you haven’t seen Agents of SHIELD, I recommend the entire series. A touch under produced at times, but the character building is so good it’s absolutely must watch CBM television IMO.
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