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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Nov 12, 2023 0:39:59 GMT 1
Thoughts?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2023 2:40:32 GMT 1
In the context of the show itself, it didn't amount to more than a scene-stealing misdirect. The misdirect was effective because it allowed the writers to create something less predictable than a Kang vs Loki matchup. In the context of fans who like to believe they know everything the MCU will do before they do it, it probably feels like a mistake because what they guessed did not come to pass.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Nov 12, 2023 3:20:17 GMT 1
In the context of the show itself, it didn't amount to more than a scene-stealing misdirect. The misdirect was effective because it allowed the writers to create something less predictable than a Kang vs Loki matchup. In the context of fans who like to believe they know everything the MCU will do before they do it, it probably feels like a mistake because what they guessed did not come to pass. Well, at least he was more menacing in Ant-Man but again got his butt handed to him lol
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2023 3:33:14 GMT 1
In the context of the show itself, it didn't amount to more than a scene-stealing misdirect. The misdirect was effective because it allowed the writers to create something less predictable than a Kang vs Loki matchup. In the context of fans who like to believe they know everything the MCU will do before they do it, it probably feels like a mistake because what they guessed did not come to pass. Well, at least he was more menacing in Ant-Man but again got his butt handed to him lol We only saw a statue of him and an out-of-focus mural with him in Loki, can't really say either could be menacing. lol ¯\_(ツ)_/
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Nov 12, 2023 3:36:26 GMT 1
Well, at least he was more menacing in Ant-Man but again got his butt handed to him lol We only saw a statue of him and an out-of-focus mural with him in Loki, can't really say either could be menacing. lol ¯\_(ツ)_/ Huh?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2023 3:39:36 GMT 1
We only saw a statue of him and an out-of-focus mural with him in Loki, can't really say either could be menacing. lol ¯\_(ツ)_/ Huh? We really didn't get Kang in Loki, just the foreshadowing - which turned out to be a misdirect. HWR and VT are different from Kang. j/s
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Nov 12, 2023 3:42:12 GMT 1
We really didn't get Kang in Loki, just the foreshadowing - which turned out to be a misdirect. HWR and VT are different from Kang. j/s Yeah, yeah variants/time shit but you know what I mean man
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2023 3:43:42 GMT 1
We really didn't get Kang in Loki, just the foreshadowing - which turned out to be a misdirect. HWR and VT are different from Kang. j/s Yeah, yeah variants/time shit but you know what I mean man I dunno… They never even say the name Kang once in the entire show. lol
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Post by Merv on Nov 12, 2023 13:41:17 GMT 1
I don’t think so…but my comic book knowledge of the many Kangs is rudimentary therefore my expectations and anticipations for the characters MCU impact were almost nothing. So far I have not been disappointed with Majors as the character or the various versions we’ve seen so far.
As to why he seems to get defeated so easily my only thought there is if they are setting up an army of Kangs, as we’ve seen in Antman 3…then maybe they don’t want to make just one of them so strong that it takes too much to defeat because otherwise an army of them would be impossible.
But also I’d say in regards to HWR Kang, he didn’t fight back in the classical sense. His conflict with Loki was much more a battle of…not morality exactly, or wits…perseverance perhaps.
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 12, 2023 23:36:41 GMT 1
No, because of this:
The MCU has a lot to work with here.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 12, 2023 23:44:35 GMT 1
No, because of this: The MCU has a lot to work with here. That summation answers, "Was it a mistake to introduce Kang into the MCU?" Per the OP, the original question is, was it a mistake to introduce Kang in Loki?
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 13, 2023 19:09:18 GMT 1
No, because of this: The MCU has a lot to work with here. That summation answers, "Was it a mistake to introduce Kang into the MCU?" Per the OP, the original question is, was it a mistake to introduce Kang in Loki? In terms of a good story or in the narrative itself?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Nov 13, 2023 19:35:22 GMT 1
That summation answers, "Was it a mistake to introduce Kang into the MCU?" Per the OP, the original question is, was it a mistake to introduce Kang in Loki? In terms of a good story or in the narrative itself? Either or both. Kang in Loki was the proverbial laser pointer for the kittens. Fans spent time pawing it to death as if it were living prey. The distraction allowed the filmmakers space to tell Loki's actual story without fear of it being spoiled or picked apart in the press.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Nov 13, 2023 22:46:36 GMT 1
It was not a mistake.
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 14, 2023 0:52:18 GMT 1
In terms of a good story or in the narrative itself? Either or both. Kang in Loki was the proverbial laser pointer for the kittens. Fans spent time pawing it to death as if it were living prey. The distraction allowed the filmmakers space to tell Loki's actual story without fear of it being spoiled or picked apart in the press. Maybe. I’m getting a little done with the eulogies, I’m ready for Thor V: Thor and Loki’s…who is frozen Loki recently salvaged and revived by Starkar…madcap adventure to retrieve Idunna’s Magic Apples to stop the Asgardian aging process. It’s all fault Loki’s fault, of course, and the boys must crossdress to sneak into the frost giant’s palace to get them back. Hey, I figured out Loki’s Mona Lisa smile. It’s the prefect combination of this:
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Post by Merv on Nov 14, 2023 17:22:35 GMT 1
Either or both. Kang in Loki was the proverbial laser pointer for the kittens. Fans spent time pawing it to death as if it were living prey. The distraction allowed the filmmakers space to tell Loki's actual story without fear of it being spoiled or picked apart in the press. Maybe. I’m getting a little done with the eulogies I do think this is a potential problem. I’ve already likened this season of Loki to Endgame and Guardians 3, which are both acceptable exit point for many characters. Loki season 2 works the same for this Loki. I’m both glad we got it but worried that the best movies/shows in the past 4 years have been closing arcs. Looking forward to see some good pushes forward for some of these characters.
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Post by LokisMom on Nov 15, 2023 4:16:44 GMT 1
Maybe. I’m getting a little done with the eulogies I do think this is a potential problem. I’ve already likened this season of Loki to Endgame and Guardians 3, which are both acceptable exit point for many characters. Loki season 2 works the same for this Loki. I’m both glad we got it but worried that the best movies/shows in the past 4 years have been closing arcs. Looking forward to see some good pushes forward for some of these characters. I hope that bitch Sylvie is happy flipping burgers, she could be in there giving her other self a break now and again, so Loki can go online as notoriousnobbi.
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Post by Grandmaster on Nov 21, 2023 19:09:43 GMT 1
I dont think it was a mistake. We as fans just have to get used to this type of villain in a multiverse story told on multiple platforms in different ways.
Only time will tell if it works out.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 21, 2023 19:14:21 GMT 1
No it’s pretty much the best franchise they’ve produced Also there’s a story here that we haven’t seen yet. We’ve seen Kang. We’ve seen timely. We haven’t yet seen the conqueror rise. Thats the Kang story we can still bear witness to
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Post by Indiana Jones on Nov 24, 2023 18:00:05 GMT 1
In retrospect, I actually think it was a major mistake. I like Majors in the role but he has not been built up well enough like Thanos was nor do I think casual audiences actually care about Kang all that much. I think Kang should have had a post credits scene in either Spider-Man: No Way Home or Doctor Strange 2 if they really wanted to build up anticipation or a sense of intrigue about him or his agenda. Even with Quantumania, maybe it was a mistake to have him as the lead villain. MODOK could have been used better as the primary antagonist in that movie whilst Kang lurked in the background pulling the strings.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Dec 9, 2023 8:29:45 GMT 1
In retrospect, I actually think it was a major mistake. I like Majors in the role but he has not been built up well enough like Thanos was nor do I think casual audiences actually care about Kang all that much. I think Kang should have had a post credits scene in either Spider-Man: No Way Home or Doctor Strange 2 if they really wanted to build up anticipation or a sense of intrigue about him or his agenda. Even with Quantumania, maybe it was a mistake to have him as the lead villain. MODOK could have been used better as the primary antagonist in that movie whilst Kang lurked in the background pulling the strings. Modok was also a joke in Ant-Man. Also to turn Yellowjacket into him...just why...
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Post by andre on Dec 12, 2023 14:16:05 GMT 1
In retrospect, I actually think it was a major mistake. I like Majors in the role but he has not been built up well enough like Thanos was nor do I think casual audiences actually care about Kang all that much. I think Kang should have had a post credits scene in either Spider-Man: No Way Home or Doctor Strange 2 if they really wanted to build up anticipation or a sense of intrigue about him or his agenda. Even with Quantumania, maybe it was a mistake to have him as the lead villain. MODOK could have been used better as the primary antagonist in that movie whilst Kang lurked in the background pulling the strings. Modok was also a joke in Ant-Man. Also to turn Yellowjacket into him...just why... MODOK has been a joke in the comics for like 30 years, so it's not such a big thing....
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