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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 0:09:36 GMT 1
Has PewDiePie’s channel been shadowbanned on YouTube?For context, Pewdiepie is the second-biggest gaming content creator on the platform (formerly the biggest), but now his videos don't show up in the search engine even when you type in "Pewdiepie". There's a lot of speculation about why this is happening, but some have pointed he's said some vaguely "Conservative" things lately, like "respect Christians" and other things. I think he also mentioned Biden's son and a certain activity he was up to lately. ArArArchStanton Grandmaster I know this makes uploading a bigger pain, but after what happened to Pewdiepie, even temporarily, today, I have to recommend that you guys upload your Podcast on other streaming platforms as well. If Youtube decides you've said something they don't like, they can't reach you on Dailymotion or Vimeo, or elsewhere. And yes, I know I already told you guys about this on Knowhere. I want the people on Sakaar to know about this, too.
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 0:35:09 GMT 1
Has PewDiePie’s channel been shadowbanned on YouTube?For context, Pewdiepie is the second-biggest gaming content creator on the platform (formerly the biggest), but now his videos don't show up in the search engine even when you type in "Pewdiepie". There's a lot of speculation about why this is happening, but some have pointed he's said some vaguely "Conservative" things lately, like "respect Christians" and other things. I think he also mentioned Biden's son and a certain activity he was up to lately. ArArArchStanton Grandmaster I know this makes uploading a bigger pain, but after what happened to Pewdiepie, even temporarily, today, I have to recommend that you guys upload your Podcast on other streaming platforms as well. If Youtube decides you've said something they don't like, they can't reach you on Dailymotion or Vimeo, or elsewhere. And yes, I know I already told you guys about this on Knowhere. I want the people on Sakaar to know about this, too. I've seen a lot of YouTubers bring up the difficulty of free expression and the ease of blocks, bans, and demonitizations. The only suggestions to avoid it I've heard are use sarcasm when expressing conservative or otherwise sensitive viewpoints. Algorithms still have difficulty with sarcasm so you can usually make nearly any point by being a bit of an...
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2020 0:38:11 GMT 1
Has PewDiePie’s channel been shadowbanned on YouTube?For context, Pewdiepie is the second-biggest gaming content creator on the platform (formerly the biggest), but now his videos don't show up in the search engine even when you type in "Pewdiepie". There's a lot of speculation about why this is happening, but some have pointed he's said some vaguely "Conservative" things lately, like "respect Christians" and other things. I think he also mentioned Biden's son and a certain activity he was up to lately. ArArArchStanton Grandmaster I know this makes uploading a bigger pain, but after what happened to Pewdiepie, even temporarily, today, I have to recommend that you guys upload your Podcast on other streaming platforms as well. If Youtube decides you've said something they don't like, they can't reach you on Dailymotion or Vimeo, or elsewhere. And yes, I know I already told you guys about this on Knowhere. I want the people on Sakaar to know about this, too. I've seen a lot of YouTubers bring up the difficulty of free expression and the ease of blocks, bans, and demonitizations. The only suggestions to avoid it I've heard are use sarcasm when expressing conservative or otherwise sensitive viewpoints. Algorithms still have difficulty with sarcasm so you can usually make nearly any point by being a bit of an... So have I. Today's incident is a good example of why I think we should probably make accounts on other streaming platforms, though. I'm currently in the process of creating accounts on any video sites I think hold some promise.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Oct 23, 2020 2:06:48 GMT 1
Listened to the first part. Some great points about the search for humanity and the kind of future it depicts. Also Grandmaster and how this made him comtemplate his search for his own humanity. Also Lorddeathman's point about how "we made it" and having solved a lot of the problems we are facing today. To Biz's point about how it is done in a realistic way also. I have already posted here that I love DS9 but have to give the nod to TOS. That's the one that made me the fan and the one I grew up with. Great job guys. I had to kind of crank up Lorddeathman because his volume was coming in much lower than everybody else but no problems. Thanks for tuning in... new and improved mic is inbound. Let's see if it makes a difference.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 23, 2020 2:29:51 GMT 1
Listened to the first part. Some great points about the search for humanity and the kind of future it depicts. Also Grandmaster and how this made him comtemplate his search for his own humanity. Also Lorddeathman's point about how "we made it" and having solved a lot of the problems we are facing today. To Biz's point about how it is done in a realistic way also. I have already posted here that I love DS9 but have to give the nod to TOS. That's the one that made me the fan and the one I grew up with. Great job guys. I had to kind of crank up Lorddeathman because his volume was coming in much lower than everybody else but no problems. Thanks for tuning in... new and improved mic is inbound. Let's see if it makes a difference. You make a great addition to the podcast Lorddeathman. I have not watched this Discovery series and had not really planned on it. What you said in regards to gay characters or whatever the topic was about things being "seeminglessly woven in" in the original series really struck a chord with me. Again, I haven't seen the show so I can't make judgments on it, but in the original series I never thought twice about their being a black character or somebody asian etc... IT was portrayed as if it was nothing to even discuss. It's just the way things are in that time of the future. That is the way I'd prefer it instead of being hit over the head with it to show just how woke they are.
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 3:18:48 GMT 1
I would like a moment to rant about the difference between appropriate and inappropriate usage of the political endorsement by actors in a future discussion. Which is not intended as a political message, my rant is about the character impacts, not the politics.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 23, 2020 3:27:46 GMT 1
Thanks for tuning in... new and improved mic is inbound. Let's see if it makes a difference. You make a great addition to the podcast Lorddeathman. I have not watched this Discovery series and had not really planned on it. What you said in regards to gay characters or whatever the topic was about things being "seeminglessly woven in" in the original series really struck a chord with me. Again, I haven't seen the show so I can't make judgments on it, but in the original series I never thought twice about their being a black character or somebody asian etc... IT was portrayed as if it was nothing to even discuss. It's just the way things are in that time of the future. That is the way I'd prefer it instead of being hit over the head with it to show just how woke they are. I find that to be the crux of many people’s issues with these types of discussions. There is often a deep confusion where if somebody objects to being told what the state of diversity is, that somehow that is the same thing as being against diversity. But those two concepts are mutually exclusive. More often than not my experience is that people have no issue with diversity, they simply find it condescending to be constantly lectured about it.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 23, 2020 3:44:25 GMT 1
You make a great addition to the podcast Lorddeathman. I have not watched this Discovery series and had not really planned on it. What you said in regards to gay characters or whatever the topic was about things being "seeminglessly woven in" in the original series really struck a chord with me. Again, I haven't seen the show so I can't make judgments on it, but in the original series I never thought twice about their being a black character or somebody asian etc... IT was portrayed as if it was nothing to even discuss. It's just the way things are in that time of the future. That is the way I'd prefer it instead of being hit over the head with it to show just how woke they are. I find that to be the crux of many people’s issues with these types of discussions. There is often a deep confusion where if somebody objects to being told what the state of diversity is, that somehow that is the same thing as being against diversity. But those two concepts are mutually exclusive. More often than not my experience is that people have no issue with diversity, they simply find it condescending to be constantly lectured about it. You have no idea how many arguments and discussions I've had on boards about that very thing where people will automatically yell "BIGOT" and are simply incapable of understand the difference or refuse to. Or another one of my personal favorites: The "if you don't like it don't watch it" argument which is complete BS and not even worthy of a response.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 23, 2020 3:46:07 GMT 1
I find that to be the crux of many people’s issues with these types of discussions. There is often a deep confusion where if somebody objects to being told what the state of diversity is, that somehow that is the same thing as being against diversity. But those two concepts are mutually exclusive. More often than not my experience is that people have no issue with diversity, they simply find it condescending to be constantly lectured about it. You have no idea how many arguments and discussions I've had on boards about that very thing where people will automatically yell "BIGOT" and are simply incapable of understand the difference or refuse to. Or another one of my personal favorites: The "if you don't like it don't watch it" argument which is complete BS and not even worthy of a response. I should have come with stronger points like this in episode 4.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 23, 2020 4:54:55 GMT 1
You have no idea how many arguments and discussions I've had on boards about that very thing where people will automatically yell "BIGOT" and are simply incapable of understand the difference or refuse to. Or another one of my personal favorites: The "if you don't like it don't watch it" argument which is complete BS and not even worthy of a response. I should have come with stronger points like this in episode 4. That's ok, it's easy to look back on it and remember things but not so easy in the moment
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 23, 2020 14:57:34 GMT 1
Hey everybody, let me know if you have any audio issues here, especially at the end of 5.4. The audio has been dropping at the end for me, but it's showing an audio file and will play when i select it directly, so I'm not really sure what might be happening there. Hopefully there's no issue on upload, but please let me know. 5.3 - Starwarsification 5.4 - New Shows, Section 31 & Discovery UPDATE: Not quite sure why the audio cuts out at the end, because there is audio on the file, but watch our facial reactions and you can tell essentially Grandmaster questions how Section 31 becomes a shadow organization, I suggest perhaps it's like how SHIELD became one, at which point Lord Death Man states they could be like Hydra, cue the Hydra logo. After that I tell LDM and Grandmaster that their level of detail is seriously inspiring me to get me into these new shows, and LDM asks me what my journey through The Original Series has been like. So I'm resaving the file here and hopefully that fully integrates the audio. UPDATE 2: The reupload didn't change anything. No idea why the audio isn't feeding in. Open to suggestions lol. I am currently copying all of the contents of the video, and saving it into a new file. That will take a couple hours to process and upload if it works. I'm doing dishes and getting a beer until then. Cheers
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 15:28:04 GMT 1
What about a throwback discussion each podcast? Favorite 80s scifi, best western, best garbage film, etc. You've kind of done it in a couple with halloween/under-rated non-MCU Marvel.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 23, 2020 19:10:36 GMT 1
What about a throwback discussion each podcast? Favorite 80s scifi, best western, best garbage film, etc. You've kind of done it in a couple with halloween/under-rated non-MCU Marvel. I like it. Might make the last section a sort of potpouri of topics like that.
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 19:30:38 GMT 1
What about a throwback discussion each podcast? Favorite 80s scifi, best western, best garbage film, etc. You've kind of done it in a couple with halloween/under-rated non-MCU Marvel. I like it. Might make the last section a sort of potpouri of topics like that. Ah, but what to name the recurring section?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 23, 2020 19:45:13 GMT 1
I like it. Might make the last section a sort of potpouri of topics like that. Ah, but what to name the recurring section? different names!!! So if we do an old film it could be something like another edition of the “Retro Rewind” or if it’s a rant it could be “I’m Right and You’re not” lol
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 19:50:07 GMT 1
Ah, but what to name the recurring section? different names!!! So if we do an old film it could be something like another edition of the “Retro Rewind” or if it’s a rant it could be “I’m Right and You’re not” lol "and We'll Need THAT guy's eye"
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Post by maximura on Oct 23, 2020 20:47:46 GMT 1
Ah, but what to name the recurring section? different names!!! So if we do an old film it could be something like another edition of the “Retro Rewind” or if it’s a rant it could be “I’m Right and You’re not” lol "I am Groot"?
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Post by Jayman on Oct 24, 2020 4:11:08 GMT 1
Still gotta check out the other 2 parts of this latest podcast. Hopefully by tomorrow I should get the chance
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 24, 2020 17:05:45 GMT 1
5.5 is saving now, and will be up later today. Audio seems to be solid on this one. I spent time yesterday trying to solve 5.4, but IDK,,,
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Post by Jayman on Oct 24, 2020 18:57:55 GMT 1
Just watched part 3. That was interesting discussion about the star wars'ing it up. The reason I never really compared the 2 franchises is becuse one is based mostly around movies and the other is tv shows mostly. So I think the pacing of it by definition has to be different. The later star trek movies really have to sell it as an action movie to gain a more mainstream audience so I do understand that aspect of it. If they tried to put out a movie like the motion picture, it may get the core star trek fans but would fall flat probably for the non trekker and fail to gain the audience they would need. Some great stuff here with some passionate fans. The only part I may slightly disagree with is over the fact that the previous formulas could not work. Becaues I think if you have really compelling characters and stories you don't need to add that much more action into it. That is why I love DS9 so much. As great as the stories were you had so many great and likable and fascinating characters and you really saw them grow as people and the friendships that developed between them as well as a glimpse into what it is like to live on a space station whether there's a war going on or not. Even just the banter between these characters was so entertaining to me because it was such an amazing cast of characters. A simple scene in Quark's bar I'd find myself rewinding and rewatching scenes. THat is also part of what I find so interesting about it is what is every day life like for these people living on a space ship or a station? That to me is what was really missing in Voyager for me. I liked Enterprise a little bit better but the stories themselves I didn't find nearly as compelling as the other series. I think with a tv series, less is more because you can become numb to it if you see non stop action every episode. But if you are strictly comparing movies to movies then that is something different altogether in regards to star trek and star wars. ANyways that is just my lesser informed take on things. You guys are the experts. Great segment guys.
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Post by Grandmaster on Oct 24, 2020 19:24:31 GMT 1
Just watched part 3. That was interesting discussion about the star wars'ing it up. The reason I never really compared the 2 franchises is becuse one is based mostly around movies and the other is tv shows mostly. So I think the pacing of it by definition has to be different. The later star trek movies really have to sell it as an action movie to gain a more mainstream audience so I do understand that aspect of it. If they tried to put out a movie like the motion picture, it may get the core star trek fans but would fall flat probably for the non trekker and fail to gain the audience they would need. Some great stuff here with some passionate fans. The only part I may slightly disagree with is over the fact that the previous formulas could not work. Becaues I think if you have really compelling characters and stories you don't need to add that much more action into it. That is why I love DS9 so much. As great as the stories were you had so many great and likable and fascinating characters and you really saw them grow as people and the friendships that developed between them as well as a glimpse into what it is like to live on a space station whether there's a war going on or not. Even just the banter between these characters was so entertaining to me because it was such an amazing cast of characters. A simple scene in Quark's bar I'd find myself rewinding and rewatching scenes. THat is also part of what I find so interesting about it is what is every day life like for these people living on a space ship or a station? That to me is what was really missing in Voyager for me. I liked Enterprise a little bit better but the stories themselves I didn't find nearly as compelling as the other series. I think with a tv series, less is more because you can become numb to it if you see non stop action every episode. But if you are strictly comparing movies to movies then that is something different altogether in regards to star trek and star wars. ANyways that is just my lesser informed take on things. You guys are the experts. Great segment guys. For me old style Trek would also still work. Im sure thats true for LDM too. I was talking more about getting the newest generation excited for Trek. Old school Trek would be deamed too slow and not exciting enough. Thats what I meant.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 24, 2020 19:31:06 GMT 1
Just watched part 3. That was interesting discussion about the star wars'ing it up. The reason I never really compared the 2 franchises is becuse one is based mostly around movies and the other is tv shows mostly. So I think the pacing of it by definition has to be different. The later star trek movies really have to sell it as an action movie to gain a more mainstream audience so I do understand that aspect of it. If they tried to put out a movie like the motion picture, it may get the core star trek fans but would fall flat probably for the non trekker and fail to gain the audience they would need. Some great stuff here with some passionate fans. The only part I may slightly disagree with is over the fact that the previous formulas could not work. Becaues I think if you have really compelling characters and stories you don't need to add that much more action into it. That is why I love DS9 so much. As great as the stories were you had so many great and likable and fascinating characters and you really saw them grow as people and the friendships that developed between them as well as a glimpse into what it is like to live on a space station whether there's a war going on or not. Even just the banter between these characters was so entertaining to me because it was such an amazing cast of characters. A simple scene in Quark's bar I'd find myself rewinding and rewatching scenes. THat is also part of what I find so interesting about it is what is every day life like for these people living on a space ship or a station? That to me is what was really missing in Voyager for me. I liked Enterprise a little bit better but the stories themselves I didn't find nearly as compelling as the other series. I think with a tv series, less is more because you can become numb to it if you see non stop action every episode. But if you are strictly comparing movies to movies then that is something different altogether in regards to star trek and star wars. ANyways that is just my lesser informed take on things. You guys are the experts. Great segment guys. For me old style Trek would also still work. Im sure thats true for LDM too. I was talking more about getting the newest generation excited for Trek. Old school Trek would be deamed too slow and not exciting enough. Thats what I meant. Sorry if I mischaracterized your opinion grandmaster. I do think there is an element to that in the much younger audience who may expect a certain amount of action that they are used to. I guess it is always going to be a struggle in finding that balance with the right amount of action. I guess if you are my age or a bit younger if you haven't watched star trek by now you probably never will. So it is all about the newer generation.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 24, 2020 20:27:00 GMT 1
Yeah my take on action in Star Trek is that if you can pull off films like Interstellar without space battles, surely you could do it with Trek. One thing I wonder about is the real world possibility of sending a crew to another Star if we attain the technology to do it, and what that journey would be like for them. I wouldn’t need those human beings to be in laser wars to find that journey of humanity compelling.
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Post by maximura on Oct 24, 2020 20:34:13 GMT 1
Yeah my take on action in Star Trek is that if you can pull off films like Interstellar without space battles, surely you could do it with Trek. One thing I wonder about is the real world possibility of sending a crew to another Star if we attain the technology to do it, and what that journey would be like for them. I wouldn’t need those human beings to be in laser wars to find that journey of humanity compelling. Star Trek explores the potential scientific implications pretty well throughout. After First Contact, they were stuck with the concern that any species developed enough to be exploring space would also have an interest in conquering it/gathering resources. Historically, the less developed cultures of Earth haven't been seen as groups to help along so much as things to be used or destroyed. The space battles don't necessarily need to be epic, but they are a pretty reasonable concern. A fine line to balance.
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Post by Jayman on Oct 24, 2020 20:36:18 GMT 1
Yeah my take on action in Star Trek is that if you can pull off films like Interstellar without space battles, surely you could do it with Trek. One thing I wonder about is the real world possibility of sending a crew to another Star if we attain the technology to do it, and what that journey would be like for them. I wouldn’t need those human beings to be in laser wars to find that journey of humanity compelling. I've just been always fascinated by the whole concept. Even as a little kid watching the original series or a teenager, I don't remember ever longing for or waiting for any battle scenes. What drew me to it was the human aspect and the exploration end of it and the different life forms and all of the other aspects of it. Don't get me wrong, battles and action are great too.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 24, 2020 21:11:56 GMT 1
Yeah my take on action in Star Trek is that if you can pull off films like Interstellar without space battles, surely you could do it with Trek. One thing I wonder about is the real world possibility of sending a crew to another Star if we attain the technology to do it, and what that journey would be like for them. I wouldn’t need those human beings to be in laser wars to find that journey of humanity compelling. Star Trek explores the potential scientific implications pretty well throughout. After First Contact, they were stuck with the concern that any species developed enough to be exploring space would also have an interest in conquering it/gathering resources. Historically, the less developed cultures of Earth haven't been seen as groups to help along so much as things to be used or destroyed. The space battles don't necessarily need to be epic, but they are a pretty reasonable concern. A fine line to balance. Oh I didn’t mean there should be none. I just meant it’s not a requirement.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 25, 2020 2:31:30 GMT 1
5.5 - The conclusion of our first in depth Star Trek breakdown, and thank you again to Lord Death Man for exploring Grandmaster 's favorite franchise. I had a ton of fun just listening to you guys get in to all the details and I'm looking forward to starting maybe Discovery, or DS9, or one of the other new shows that came up, as soon as I'm done with TOS. Stay tuned, because we do cap off the day with a closing discussion on the return of the Marvel Netflix shows in 5.6
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2020 7:26:10 GMT 1
5.1 - Buckle in for some Trek, because this is just the start. 5.2 will be up in a few hours, and if you haven't listened to episode 4 yet, the entire audio is now on Spotify, Anchor, and Google Podcast anchor.fm/arararchstanton3
Special thanks to Lord Death Man , Hee Hee Hee
Share the links around if you can ladies and gentlemen, hope you enjoy this one Just making my way through this to see the updates and that was hilarious when LDM said enemies too. Kind of a nervous laugh from me too but yeah given the history, we can be a little too passionate. Although if you aint, are you doing it right?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 25, 2020 11:23:56 GMT 1
5.6 - And suddenly we started talking about the return of the Netflix cast :-) (currently uploading to Youtube, it says,,, 37 minutes from this edit)
And just a reminder, everybody is invited to join in on a future call. Just name the time and the subject :-)
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Oct 26, 2020 20:22:53 GMT 1
Episode 5 Audio is now up on Spotify, Anchor, and google podcast. Please share the links where you can. anchor.fm/arararchstanton3
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