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Post by maximura on Feb 16, 2021 12:53:43 GMT 1
The Cara Dune toy is being recalled. I don't really get this play. The character is canon. All they did was create a false inflation to the value of the limited release and deny women a strong female character. Well, at least there is this Mandalorian theme on medieval instruments: I call I like it, but admittedly, I prefer the Dan Vasc cover.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 16, 2021 14:52:27 GMT 1
That was back in November of 2020. They were going to announce it at DID in December. Those plans were scrubbed after her first round of controversial tweets/grams. She was hanging on by a thread for a while. She obviously thought the growing popularity of her character would shield her from the blow back, but... some pies, mother trucker! I find it sort of scary honestly that in society now that this kind of thing can get you fired. Everything little thing is treated as hate in order to force compliance. It’s really really troubling. Seriously. We’ve crossed a line with this one. Agreed, but I find that everyone is being hyper-reactionary to the symptoms and aftermath of this problem without examining the root cause. We've been promoting the patently ridiculous idea that you can and must be your "authentic self" in the workplace. It's a ridiculously bad idea. The entire concept of professionalism exists so that you never show anyone you work with exactly who you are. I'm surprised that Carano and others haven't accepted the idea that Social Media - of any kind - is an extension of their workplace, and they should act accordingly. It's not at all fair what happened to her, but unless you're doing a late-night monologue, I wouldn't expect to hear political views of any kind from any entertainer. Your job is to juggle bowling pins, and look good doing it for my entertainment... period. She should sue, but, at the same time - she does have to realize that she could have exercised the better part of valor. Sometimes it is better to be prudent than it is to be courageous. Personally, I don't think it was a great loss for the show as she is a subpar actor. I've always found her strangely uncharismatic. In a sea of talented cast members, she was beginning to stick out - and not in a good way.
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Post by maximura on Feb 16, 2021 15:37:16 GMT 1
I find it sort of scary honestly that in society now that this kind of thing can get you fired. Everything little thing is treated as hate in order to force compliance. It’s really really troubling. Seriously. We’ve crossed a line with this one. Agreed, but I find that everyone is being hyper-reactionary to the symptoms and aftermath of this problem without examining the root cause. We've been promoting the patently ridiculous idea that you can and must be your "authentic self" in the workplace. It's a ridiculously bad idea. The entire concept of professionalism exists so that you never show anyone you work with exactly who you are. I'm surprised that Carano and others haven't accepted the idea that Social Media - of any kind - is an extension of their workplace, and they should act accordingly. It's not at all fair what happened to her, but unless you're doing a late-night monologue, I wouldn't expect to hear political views of any kind from any entertainer. Your job is to juggle bowling pins, and look good doing it for my entertainment... period. She should sue, but, at the same time - she does have to realize that she could have exercised the better part of valor. Sometimes it is better to be prudent than it is to be courageous. Personally, I don't think it was a great loss for the show as she is a subpar actor. I've always found her strangely uncharismatic. In a sea of talented cast members, she was beginning to stick out - and not in a good way. This is actually distinct from Kaepernick for me because she isn't doing it in the workplace. Nobody is under contract to not have freedom of expression. Twitter is an extension of the individual rather than the workplace unless there is something in the contract stating otherwise. Consistency should apply, and it is clear that some views being expressed are completely acceptable. Choosing which ones, as an employer, is overstepping your legal authority of power over your employees. Either all views can be expressed or none can. Anything else is impossible to conform to as the shifting standard of acceptable cannot be kept up with.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 16, 2021 16:14:44 GMT 1
Agree honestly. It’s the same reason we don’t get into political ideas here really. She’s certainly not a great actor.
My only issue here is the level at which we are deciding speech is a crime. There are many ideas that I would completely disagree with or find incredibly stupid, rude, distasteful, etc. Flat Earth for example. Many of these lead to harm and oppression of others. We could talk for awhile about both left and right wing specific policies and their potential for causing harm. But I don’t think it’s right to simply have enough people to lynch mob fire people for espousing those ideas.
Whatever someone’s stance on transexuality may be, the reality is that some will champion it, and some will find some of the socially enforced aspects of it oppressive/amusing/etc. There are aspects of it that are open to objection without being based in bigotry. If somebody doesn’t want to use pronouns to label themselves for instance. There’s no crime there. If somebody finds the idea of labeling themselves with gender to be funny, that’s also not a crime.
I think this is a major example of being too sanitized in our ability to communicate. We’re too easily offended, and ready to lash out over it. And silencing points of view, is a slippery slope.
Again I’d wish we could silence Flat Earth teaching. Mal education is 100x worse IMO. And there are a ton of other things like not accepting evolution, or thinking homeopathy works, or that $15/hour national minimum wage won’t cost jobs and raise costs. These are potentially much more detrimental than Gina smiling at using pronouns. But we don’t silence people and fire them for saying it.
And I don't think we should.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 16, 2021 17:12:21 GMT 1
Agreed, but I find that everyone is being hyper-reactionary to the symptoms and aftermath of this problem without examining the root cause. We've been promoting the patently ridiculous idea that you can and must be your "authentic self" in the workplace. It's a ridiculously bad idea. The entire concept of professionalism exists so that you never show anyone you work with exactly who you are. I'm surprised that Carano and others haven't accepted the idea that Social Media - of any kind - is an extension of their workplace, and they should act accordingly. It's not at all fair what happened to her, but unless you're doing a late-night monologue, I wouldn't expect to hear political views of any kind from any entertainer. Your job is to juggle bowling pins, and look good doing it for my entertainment... period. She should sue, but, at the same time - she does have to realize that she could have exercised the better part of valor. Sometimes it is better to be prudent than it is to be courageous. Personally, I don't think it was a great loss for the show as she is a subpar actor. I've always found her strangely uncharismatic. In a sea of talented cast members, she was beginning to stick out - and not in a good way. This is actually distinct from Kaepernick for me because she isn't doing it in the workplace. Nobody is under contract to not have freedom of expression. Twitter is an extension of the individual rather than the workplace unless there is something in the contract stating otherwise. Consistency should apply, and it is clear that some views being expressed are completely acceptable. Choosing which ones, as an employer, is overstepping your legal authority of power over your employees. Either all views can be expressed or none can. Anything else is impossible to conform to as the shifting standard of acceptable cannot be kept up with. Social Media obligations of all kinds are a genuine thing in the entertainment industry. Studios and talent management use a celebrity's Social Media presence as an extension of their own marketing activities. When you engage an actor at Carano's level, you are no longer just contracting the services of someone who can act, as was the case in the distant past. You're "leasing" their following to increase the visibility of your project. Under such agreements, as you stated, you may be contractually obligated to maintain a certain standard of ethics or post frequently about the project you are working on during your contract's duration. As a working media professional, I've frequently seen this type of arrangement play out personally (although not in the entertainment world). The terms can be far more draconian than you might guess looking in from the outside. While I have not seen Gina Carano's contract, I'm almost certain there would have been some language around standards, ethics, or even morals in Social Media. Admittedly, I'm speculating in this case. This sort of thing even applies to appearances at Comic-Con. Celebrities are contracted to make appearances there and are bound to specific behavior standards during their promotional efforts. This effectively makes Comic-Con an extension of their work environment while they are there. What happens after hours, I'm sure, is still largely up to the individual. While a Social Media account isn't a literal extension of the workplace, my suggestion is that if you are a public figure, you should treat it as such - especially if you entered into some type of implicit or explicit agreement to do so. Even if you don't buy into the idea that she was supposed to act a certain way on Social Media, let's look at what actually happened. Since Carano completed her work to date, Disney really didn't "fire" her as the press keeps misreporting. She was simply not asked to return for a new season. Disney also made it clear that they disagree with her views. They had to, as Carano's opinions are... unpopular. And Disney's business is popularity. Carano isn't a Disney employee; she's essentially a freelancer with no other entitlements beyond her pay and insurance against her serious injury or death. Her "employment" is a business-to-business arrangement between herself and those who choose to contract her services. Actors only look like people - they are actually floating micro industries with nearly all of a brick-and-mortar business's requisite dependencies. Of course, denying "people" opportunities based on their opinions is never cool. However, Disney operated within the law's bounds when they chose not to renew their association with her, which I assume they could do without any explicit reason given. CW/WB just let go of a writer, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, on the new Superman show for similar reasons. No one is particularly incensed or concerned in this case because she is not famous. Your best bet is to keep your politics out of the workplace. If you suspect that any aspect of your public life can hurt your gravy train - you have to reconcile your fear and your desire and chose. Carano chose because she was free to do so, and so was Disney.
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Post by maximura on Feb 16, 2021 17:32:37 GMT 1
This is actually distinct from Kaepernick for me because she isn't doing it in the workplace. Nobody is under contract to not have freedom of expression. Twitter is an extension of the individual rather than the workplace unless there is something in the contract stating otherwise. Consistency should apply, and it is clear that some views being expressed are completely acceptable. Choosing which ones, as an employer, is overstepping your legal authority of power over your employees. Either all views can be expressed or none can. Anything else is impossible to conform to as the shifting standard of acceptable cannot be kept up with. Social Media obligations of all kinds are a genuine thing in the entertainment industry. Studios and talent management use a celebrity's Social Media presence as an extension of their own marketing activities. When you engage an actor at Carano's level, you are no longer just contracting the services of someone who can act, as was the case in the distant past. You're "leasing" their following to increase the visibility of your project. Under such agreements, as you stated, you may be contractually obligated to maintain a certain standard of ethics or post frequently about the project you are working on during your contract's duration. As a working media professional, I've frequently seen this type of arrangement play out personally (although not in the entertainment world). The terms can be far more draconian than you might guess looking in from the outside. While I have not seen Gina Carano's contract, I'm almost certain there would have been some language around standards, ethics, or even morals in Social Media. Admittedly, I'm speculating in this case. This sort of thing even applies to appearances at Comic-Con. Celebrities are contracted to make appearances there and are bound to specific behavior standards during their promotional efforts. This effectively makes Comic-Con an extension of their work environment while they are there. What happens after hours, I'm sure, is still largely up to the individual. While a Social Media account isn't a literal extension of the workplace, my suggestion is that if you are a public figure, you should treat it as such - especially if you entered into some type of implicit or explicit agreement to do so. Even if you don't buy into the idea that she was supposed to act a certain way on Social Media, let's look at what actually happened. Since Carano completed her work to date, Disney really didn't "fire" her as the press keeps misreporting. She was simply not asked to return for a new season. Disney also made it clear that they disagree with her views. They had to, as Carano's opinions are... unpopular. And Disney's business is popularity. Carano isn't a Disney employee; she's essentially a freelancer with no other entitlements beyond her pay and insurance against her serious injury or death. Her "employment" is a business-to-business arrangement between herself and those who choose to contract her services. Actors only look like people - they are actually floating micro industries with nearly all of a brick-and-mortar business's requisite dependencies. Of course, denying "people" opportunities based on their opinions is never cool. However, Disney operated within the law's bounds when they chose not to renew their association with her, which I assume they could do without any explicit reason given. CW/WB just let go of a writer, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, on the new Superman show for similar reasons. No one is particularly incensed or concerned in this case because she is not famous. Your best bet is to keep your politics out of the workplace. If you suspect that any aspect of your public life can hurt your gravy train - you have to reconcile your fear and your desire and chose. Carano chose because she was free to do so, and so was Disney. Agreed mostly. Back to the knee jerk reaction and her unpopular opinions, it is widely being misreported that there was something anti-semitic in her post, and Disney's response included something similar, but an actual reading of the post undoes that claim. They fell victim to a constructed ongoing attack against her, which they are certainly permitted to do, but is there wisdom in doing so? The top trend of the day was cancel disney and one of the most googled searches was "how do I cancel d+. I fear mob think played more of a factor here than actual thought. Canceling the toy of a canon character in a modern show is even more ludacris. The character had nothing to do with the statements of its actor, and punishing the collectors, viewers, and children by removing such a unique character is clearly an extension of destruction rather than any actual need. I'm sure she got a percentage of her toy sales so they removed the toy, but that just comes off as petty.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 16, 2021 19:07:32 GMT 1
Social Media obligations of all kinds are a genuine thing in the entertainment industry. Studios and talent management use a celebrity's Social Media presence as an extension of their own marketing activities. When you engage an actor at Carano's level, you are no longer just contracting the services of someone who can act, as was the case in the distant past. You're "leasing" their following to increase the visibility of your project. Under such agreements, as you stated, you may be contractually obligated to maintain a certain standard of ethics or post frequently about the project you are working on during your contract's duration. As a working media professional, I've frequently seen this type of arrangement play out personally (although not in the entertainment world). The terms can be far more draconian than you might guess looking in from the outside. While I have not seen Gina Carano's contract, I'm almost certain there would have been some language around standards, ethics, or even morals in Social Media. Admittedly, I'm speculating in this case. This sort of thing even applies to appearances at Comic-Con. Celebrities are contracted to make appearances there and are bound to specific behavior standards during their promotional efforts. This effectively makes Comic-Con an extension of their work environment while they are there. What happens after hours, I'm sure, is still largely up to the individual. While a Social Media account isn't a literal extension of the workplace, my suggestion is that if you are a public figure, you should treat it as such - especially if you entered into some type of implicit or explicit agreement to do so. Even if you don't buy into the idea that she was supposed to act a certain way on Social Media, let's look at what actually happened. Since Carano completed her work to date, Disney really didn't "fire" her as the press keeps misreporting. She was simply not asked to return for a new season. Disney also made it clear that they disagree with her views. They had to, as Carano's opinions are... unpopular. And Disney's business is popularity. Carano isn't a Disney employee; she's essentially a freelancer with no other entitlements beyond her pay and insurance against her serious injury or death. Her "employment" is a business-to-business arrangement between herself and those who choose to contract her services. Actors only look like people - they are actually floating micro industries with nearly all of a brick-and-mortar business's requisite dependencies. Of course, denying "people" opportunities based on their opinions is never cool. However, Disney operated within the law's bounds when they chose not to renew their association with her, which I assume they could do without any explicit reason given. CW/WB just let go of a writer, on the opposite side of the political spectrum, on the new Superman show for similar reasons. No one is particularly incensed or concerned in this case because she is not famous. Your best bet is to keep your politics out of the workplace. If you suspect that any aspect of your public life can hurt your gravy train - you have to reconcile your fear and your desire and chose. Carano chose because she was free to do so, and so was Disney. Agreed mostly. Back to the knee jerk reaction and her unpopular opinions, it is widely being misreported that there was something anti-semitic in her post, and Disney's response included something similar, but an actual reading of the post undoes that claim. They fell victim to a constructed ongoing attack against her, which they are certainly permitted to do, but is there wisdom in doing so? The top trend of the day was cancel disney and one of the most googled searches was "how do I cancel d+. I fear mob think played more of a factor here than actual thought. Canceling the toy of a canon character in a modern show is even more ludacris. The character had nothing to do with the statements of its actor, and punishing the collectors, viewers, and children by removing such a unique character is clearly an extension of destruction rather than any actual need. I'm sure she got a percentage of her toy sales so they removed the toy, but that just comes off as petty. A well-considered response, and you're absolutely right concerning her quote. There was nothing explicitly anti-semitic regarding what she wrote. You're also right about people failing to read things carefully and apply critical thinking to their analysis of the situation. This so-called firing had nothing to do with antisemitism and only tangentially had anything to do with free speech (from Disney's point of view). The fact is Carano has put Disney in what they felt was a tight corner on Social Media before. An executive decided not to wait for a third or fourth incident to occur. What you deem pettiness was more likely corporate expeditiousness. I'm surprised this didn't happen sooner. The corporation has no values, feelings, or opinions. As a legal construct, it exhibits the purest form of psychopathy. A resource, human or otherwise, can either be readily exploited or it cannot. If there is the slightest difficulty in doing so, the corporation will expel the problematic body. Disney doesn't care about Jewish people or anyone else. It is concerned only with its earning potential. If Gina Carano was a serial killer and that role was sanctioned by society - she'd be in wardrobe right now, suiting up for season three. My motto is don't buy into anyone's propaganda... buy shares, instead.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 16, 2021 19:41:59 GMT 1
Agree honestly. It’s the same reason we don’t get into political ideas here really. She’s certainly not a great actor. My only issue here is the level at which we are deciding speech is a crime. There are many ideas that I would completely disagree with or find incredibly stupid, rude, distasteful, etc. Flat Earth for example. Many of these lead to harm and oppression of others. We could talk for awhile about both left and right wing specific policies and their potential for causing harm. But I don’t think it’s right to simply have enough people to lynch mob fire people for espousing those ideas. Whatever someone’s stance on transexuality may be, the reality is that some will champion it, and some will find some of the socially enforced aspects of it oppressive/amusing/etc. There are aspects of it that are open to objection without being based in bigotry. If somebody doesn’t want to use pronouns to label themselves for instance. There’s no crime there. If somebody finds the idea of labeling themselves with gender to be funny, that’s also not a crime. I think this is a major example of being too sanitized in our ability to communicate. We’re too easily offended, and ready to lash out over it. And silencing points of view, is a slippery slope. Again I’d wish we could silence Flat Earth teaching. Mal education is 100x worse IMO. And there are a ton of other things like not accepting evolution, or thinking homeopathy works, or that $15/hour national minimum wage won’t cost jobs and raise costs. These are potentially much more detrimental than Gina smiling at using pronouns. But we don’t silence people and fire them for saying it. And I don't think we should. You're obviously a man of great sensitivity and conscience. Disney is not. When determining how to deal with Gina Carano, the equation was simple. How many people will we lose to #CancelDisneyPlus vs. how many will we lose if we continue to associate with someone the "mob" has deemed a bad actor? They obviously weighted both options and decided the hashtag would be less costly in the long run. Those who would leave Disney+ would immediately end their subscriptions, and the losses could be quickly and accurately quantified. With Carano staying on board, that's a wound that would take longer to heal and require ongoing treatment. That's unacceptable in the corporate value system - which is nonexistent. Carano demonstrated that she would speak her mind, regardless of how her views might come across, and that's like sitting on a long-fuse powder keg for a corporation. Should we patiently wait for her to say something even more inflammatory next time? You get free speech in the constitution. There's nothing in it about getting paid for it, though. This situation is more about the mandates of capitalism and less about our society's moral and ethical fabric from Disney's perspective. In my opinion, they behaved as any organization driven by the profit motive. Of course, nothing and no one is infallible; they may end up paying for this decision in ways that aren't clear at this moment. In the short term, however; they've protected their interests.
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Post by maximura on Feb 16, 2021 20:47:10 GMT 1
Agree honestly. It’s the same reason we don’t get into political ideas here really. She’s certainly not a great actor. My only issue here is the level at which we are deciding speech is a crime. There are many ideas that I would completely disagree with or find incredibly stupid, rude, distasteful, etc. Flat Earth for example. Many of these lead to harm and oppression of others. We could talk for awhile about both left and right wing specific policies and their potential for causing harm. But I don’t think it’s right to simply have enough people to lynch mob fire people for espousing those ideas. Whatever someone’s stance on transexuality may be, the reality is that some will champion it, and some will find some of the socially enforced aspects of it oppressive/amusing/etc. There are aspects of it that are open to objection without being based in bigotry. If somebody doesn’t want to use pronouns to label themselves for instance. There’s no crime there. If somebody finds the idea of labeling themselves with gender to be funny, that’s also not a crime. I think this is a major example of being too sanitized in our ability to communicate. We’re too easily offended, and ready to lash out over it. And silencing points of view, is a slippery slope. Again I’d wish we could silence Flat Earth teaching. Mal education is 100x worse IMO. And there are a ton of other things like not accepting evolution, or thinking homeopathy works, or that $15/hour national minimum wage won’t cost jobs and raise costs. These are potentially much more detrimental than Gina smiling at using pronouns. But we don’t silence people and fire them for saying it. And I don't think we should. You're obviously a man of great sensitivity and conscience. Disney is not. When determining how to deal with Gina Carano, the equation was simple. How many people will we lose to #CancelDisneyPlus vs. how many will we lose if we continue to associate with someone the "mob" has deemed a bad actor? They obviously weighted both options and decided the hashtag would be less costly in the long run. Those who would leave Disney+ would immediately end their subscriptions, and the losses could be quickly and accurately quantified. With Carano staying on board, that's a wound that would take longer to heal and require ongoing treatment. That's unacceptable in the corporate value system - which is nonexistent. Carano demonstrated that she would speak her mind, regardless of how her views might come across, and that's like sitting on a long-fuse powder keg for a corporation. Should we patiently wait for her to say something even more inflammatory next time? You get free speech in the constitution. There's nothing in it about getting paid for it, though. This situation is more about the mandates of capitalism and less about our society's moral and ethical fabric from Disney's perspective. In my opinion, they behaved as any organization driven by the profit motive. Of course, nothing and no one is infallible; they may end up paying for this decision in ways that aren't clear at this moment. In the short term, however; they've protected their interests. I worry it may be the other way for them. They've shown a willingness to cave. How long before Joss Whedon goes? Favreau? Filoni? Any random person selectively targeted for some cause or another to take down? Getting rid of her seems as likely to chum the waters as it does to alleviate the wound. All this as we pretend every actor is a saint, ignoring many lifetimes of rampant drug abuse, domestic abuses, and anything else so long as the right things are said by them in the moment. This cancellation stuff doesn't have a tendency to go away when the mob is appeased. They just find a new demand.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 16, 2021 23:35:59 GMT 1
You're obviously a man of great sensitivity and conscience. Disney is not. When determining how to deal with Gina Carano, the equation was simple. How many people will we lose to #CancelDisneyPlus vs. how many will we lose if we continue to associate with someone the "mob" has deemed a bad actor? They obviously weighted both options and decided the hashtag would be less costly in the long run. Those who would leave Disney+ would immediately end their subscriptions, and the losses could be quickly and accurately quantified. With Carano staying on board, that's a wound that would take longer to heal and require ongoing treatment. That's unacceptable in the corporate value system - which is nonexistent. Carano demonstrated that she would speak her mind, regardless of how her views might come across, and that's like sitting on a long-fuse powder keg for a corporation. Should we patiently wait for her to say something even more inflammatory next time? You get free speech in the constitution. There's nothing in it about getting paid for it, though. This situation is more about the mandates of capitalism and less about our society's moral and ethical fabric from Disney's perspective. In my opinion, they behaved as any organization driven by the profit motive. Of course, nothing and no one is infallible; they may end up paying for this decision in ways that aren't clear at this moment. In the short term, however; they've protected their interests. I worry it may be the other way for them. They've shown a willingness to cave. How long before Joss Whedon goes? Favreau? Filoni? Any random person selectively targeted for some cause or another to take down? Getting rid of her seems as likely to chum the waters as it does to alleviate the wound. All this as we pretend every actor is a saint, ignoring many lifetimes of rampant drug abuse, domestic abuses, and anything else so long as the right things are said by them in the moment. This cancellation stuff doesn't have a tendency to go away when the mob is appeased. They just find a new demand. They have shown a willingness to reverse themselves when it suits their interest, thus further proving there isn't any real preferential treatment in their decision-making. They're just swaying whichever way the capitalist winds blow. And at the end of the day, all's well that ends well? She is starring in and producing her own movie. I guess the cream does always float to the top. Gina Carano To Produce And Star In Upcoming Film For The Daily Wire
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 20, 2021 21:00:17 GMT 1
400th post!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:00:39 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season?
Both Pedro and Gina are out
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 21, 2021 0:04:11 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season? Both Pedro and Gina are out I heard the same rumor, that it has been stealth cancelled.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:41:16 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season? Both Pedro and Gina are out WTF? Pedro is out?! For real? That’s actually hilarious. Even a hugely successful streeeeaaaming show like this can’t make it past two god damn seasons. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 21, 2021 0:48:56 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season? Both Pedro and Gina are out WTF? Pedro is out?! For real? That’s actually hilarious. Even a hugely successful streeeeaaaming show like this can’t make it past two god damn seasons. 😂😂😂😂 None of it is "confirmed" but he was pissed off... and has signed on as the lead in a different show... and they are essentially filming the Boba Fett show next "instead of" S3... so you do the math.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:51:58 GMT 1
WTF? Pedro is out?! For real? That’s actually hilarious. Even a hugely successful streeeeaaaming show like this can’t make it past two god damn seasons. 😂😂😂😂 None of it is "confirmed" but he was pissed off... and has signed on as the lead in a different show... and they are essentially filming the Boba Fett show next "instead of" S3... so you do the math. Oh! I recently read an article about how Netflix basically has to cancel most of their shows early because they can no longer afford to pay the talent once it gains popularity. I wonder if that’s the case here too. It’s hard to imagine Disney being cheap with actors.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 0:55:19 GMT 1
Did they actually resolve anything? Did they show Baby Yoga’s planet or more of his species?
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Feb 21, 2021 1:58:43 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season? Both Pedro and Gina are out WTF? Pedro is out?! For real? That’s actually hilarious.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 21, 2021 3:44:56 GMT 1
Did they actually resolve anything? Did they show Baby Yoga’s planet or more of his species?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 5:33:05 GMT 1
I’m so glad I’m not a fan of this show. I’d be seriously pissed off about this.
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Post by maximura on Feb 21, 2021 5:54:49 GMT 1
I’m so glad I’m not a fan of this show. I’d be seriously pissed off about this. Meh, it was about the Grogurt transport. They accomplished it and it was an excellent ride doing so. It wasn't required to extend. I don't feel overly robbed from this beyond seeing that they seem to have some management tier issues that are going to be long term problems for other stories.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 21, 2021 6:34:31 GMT 1
Euh... Who said this is cancelled? I call BS.
The only person who reported PP to be pissed is the Bleech Blonde Bimbo. I wouldnt trust her if I were you.
John Favreau himself confirmed season 3 is in pre production. Kathleen Kennedy said during DID 2020 that the new chapter will debut on Xmas 2021.
I really dont know why you believe DisGrace over all the evidence pointing to its happening.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 21, 2021 6:52:57 GMT 1
I’m so glad I’m not a fan of this show. I’d be seriously pissed off about this. always remember... it is better to be pissed off, than to be pissed on
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 21, 2021 8:41:05 GMT 1
Euh... Who said this is cancelled? I call BS. The only person who reported PP to be pissed is the Bleech Blonde Bimbo. I wouldnt trust her if I were you. John Favreau himself confirmed season 3 is in pre production. Kathleen Kennedy said during DID 2020 that the new chapter will debut on Xmas 2021. I really dont know why you believe DisGrace over all the evidence pointing to its happening. Deadline reported that The Last of Us would be Pascal's primary focus moving forward. I wouldn't be upset if season three didn't happen. Frankly, the show has a real chance of being dwarfed in popularity by several of the upcoming Star Wars shows on D+. The Mandalorian was a proof-of-concept, and now we're off to the races. Besides, Pascal can feasibly be in both season 3 and lead The Last of Us as the former is not much more than a glorified voice-over role. If Mando continues to follow his creed tenets, Pascal likely wouldn't even need to be on set much at all. I prefer fewer seasons and more variety of Star Wars and Marvel shows. I don't think movie-grade actors want to get stuck in multi-year commitments on streaming shows anyway. Eventually, the big screen will come back.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 10:35:13 GMT 1
So who thinks there will be another season? Both Pedro and Gina are out WTF? Pedro is out?! For real? That’s actually hilarious. Even a hugely successful streeeeaaaming show like this can’t make it past two god damn seasons. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 19:04:24 GMT 1
I’m so glad I’m not a fan of this show. I’d be seriously pissed off about this. Meh, it was about the Grogurt transport. They accomplished it and it was an excellent ride doing so. It wasn't required to extend. I don't feel overly robbed from this beyond seeing that they seem to have some management tier issues that are going to be long term problems for other stories. Did it at least have a satisfying conclusion/finale? 14 episodes for such a popular series is insanely short no matter how you slice it. I’m not sure how you guys can be so cool with that but I was never a fan of this show so I guess I can’t judge.
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Post by Grandmaster on Feb 21, 2021 19:19:02 GMT 1
Meh, it was about the Grogurt transport. They accomplished it and it was an excellent ride doing so. It wasn't required to extend. I don't feel overly robbed from this beyond seeing that they seem to have some management tier issues that are going to be long term problems for other stories. Did it at least have a satisfying conclusion/finale? 14 episodes for such a popular series is insanely short no matter how you slice it. I’m not sure how you guys can be cool with that but I was never a fan of this show so I guess I can’t judge. Again. There is no official cancellation. There are 16 episodes. And they are developing three shows set in the same time line meaning they can continue the story in an other way. Thats the thing with Cinematic Universes. The Infinity saga was also told over different franchises. Its clear Star Wars is setting up the same deal. Im afraid you are having trouble adjusting to the new way of looking at franchises. Marvel Studios has changed that. Its time you get with that programm, Ack. (Yeah, I just quoted CATWS on your ass)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 19:30:32 GMT 1
Did it at least have a satisfying conclusion/finale? 14 episodes for such a popular series is insanely short no matter how you slice it. I’m not sure how you guys can be cool with that but I was never a fan of this show so I guess I can’t judge. Again. There is no official cancellation. There are 16 episodes. And they are developing three shows set in the same time line meaning they can continue the story in an other way. Thats the thing with Cinematic Universes. The Infinity saga was also told over different franchises. Its clear Star Wars is setting up the same deal. Im afraid you are having trouble adjusting to the new way of looking at franchises. Marvel Studios has changed that. Its time you get with that programm, Ack. (Yeah, I just quoted CATWS on your ass) OH! OH! OH!I’m just going off of what Darth Ack, Biz Bizzington and Lord Death Mang are sayin. I don’t have any new information.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Feb 21, 2021 19:45:52 GMT 1
Again. There is no official cancellation. There are 16 episodes. And they are developing three shows set in the same time line meaning they can continue the story in an other way. Thats the thing with Cinematic Universes. The Infinity saga was also told over different franchises. Its clear Star Wars is setting up the same deal. Im afraid you are having trouble adjusting to the new way of looking at franchises. Marvel Studios has changed that. Its time you get with that programm, Ack. (Yeah, I just quoted CATWS on your ass) OH! OH! OH!I’m just going off of what Darth Ack, Biz Bizzington and Lord Death Mang are sayin. I don’t have any new information. Everything I told you was true... from a certain point of view.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Feb 24, 2021 15:14:16 GMT 1
Where did this idea that’s it’s canceled come from, and why is this the third rumor I’m hearing this week that doesn’t seem believable? Lol
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