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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Feb 24, 2024 14:05:18 GMT 1
He's apparently gotten a ton of backlash for this video. I always wondered when this would come to a head for him. The simple truth is that Chris, knowingly or unknowingly, has been trying to have his cake and eat it, too. He's a film critic and a filmmaker. There's an inherent conflict of interest there - especially if he aspires to one day work within the studio system. You can't be a critic who refuses to criticize some films and not others (although I readily concede that you can't review every movie). He openly states that he didn't want to review Madame Web harshly because he was concerned about how it would impact the careers and reputations of the filmmakers involved. I'm not saying he should have jumped on the hate train for Madame Web. Still, he comes off as a self-interested shill when he points the finger solely at the studio, and the producers - who indeed bear most of the blame, but Clarkson is a big girl too - she probably knew what she was getting into. He says we can avoid getting more half-baked films like Madame Web if we withhold our dollars. I agree. His honest opinion of the film what also greatly aid in that objective. He is clearly biased in favor of directors because he is one. Yeah he's definitely in a weird position with what he's trying to do. Maybe he shouldve avoided talking about Madame Web altogether? Also I'd just like to mention that Cinema Wins only does praises. In any case, he was forthright on why he changed his critiquing style Even Campea, Mauler and Critical Drinker have talked about this specific Stuckmann video
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 26, 2024 3:05:20 GMT 1
I always wondered when this would come to a head for him. The simple truth is that Chris, knowingly or unknowingly, has been trying to have his cake and eat it, too. He's a film critic and a filmmaker. There's an inherent conflict of interest there - especially if he aspires to one day work within the studio system. You can't be a critic who refuses to criticize some films and not others (although I readily concede that you can't review every movie). He openly states that he didn't want to review Madame Web harshly because he was concerned about how it would impact the careers and reputations of the filmmakers involved. I'm not saying he should have jumped on the hate train for Madame Web. Still, he comes off as a self-interested shill when he points the finger solely at the studio, and the producers - who indeed bear most of the blame, but Clarkson is a big girl too - she probably knew what she was getting into. He says we can avoid getting more half-baked films like Madame Web if we withhold our dollars. I agree. His honest opinion of the film what also greatly aid in that objective. He is clearly biased in favor of directors because he is one. Yeah he's definitely in a weird position with what he's trying to do. Maybe he shouldve avoided talking about Madame Web altogether? Also I'd just like to mention that Cinema Wins only does praises. In any case, he was forthright on why he changed his critiquing style Even Campea, Mauler and Critical Drinker have talked about this specific Stuckmann video Stuckman is demonstrating misguided loyalty to "filmmakers," and many of his "colleagues" on YouTube can't seem to handle it. There's a lot to unpack, but is any of it worth unpacking? Here are a few questions that could be worth asking. Beyond professional courtesy, why is Stuckman unwilling to speak critically of other filmmakers? Does he have aspirations of one day working in the studio system? If so, how can we expect him to deliver an honest review if he fears alienating people and institutions he may want to work with in the future? On the other hand, the overreactions over Stuckman's newly discovered Omerta are weirdly disproportionate to his stance. It's as if Stuckman's willingness to take a stance of any kind shines a light on their tendency to have no rigor or ethics in what they do beyond following any trend that leads to more clicks.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Feb 26, 2024 8:08:55 GMT 1
Yeah he's definitely in a weird position with what he's trying to do. Maybe he shouldve avoided talking about Madame Web altogether? Also I'd just like to mention that Cinema Wins only does praises. In any case, he was forthright on why he changed his critiquing style Even Campea, Mauler and Critical Drinker have talked about this specific Stuckmann video Stuckman is demonstrating misguided loyalty to "filmmakers," and many of his "colleagues" on YouTube can't seem to handle it. There's a lot to unpack, but is any of it worth unpacking? Here are a few questions that could be worth asking. Beyond professional courtesy, why is Stuckman unwilling to speak critically of other filmmakers? Does he have aspirations of one day working in the studio system? If so, how can we expect him to deliver an honest review if he fears alienating people and institutions he may want to work with in the future? On the other hand, the overreactions over Stuckman's newly discovered Omerta are weirdly disproportionate to his stance. It's as if Stuckman's willingness to take a stance of any kind shines a light on their tendency to have no rigor or ethics in what they do beyond following any trend that leads to more clicks. Well, some of them do give fair criticisms to what he said. Even if they do make fun of him. I mean I get it. Hollywood can be a tough place and some can be sensitive especially when there are rivalries and nepotism involved. Oh did you hear what Stuckmann said or whatever? Eventually traveling through the grapevine. I mean Bob Iger at one point slapped down Scorsese for having a go at Marvel. Bad news can spread very quickly But people also respect balls.
It is interesting he doesnt want to disrespect film-makers but not studios themselves. Odd in that sense.
I say he should still criticize like he did in the past but dont do the hilariocity reviews and maybe with the regular ones; mainly praise but still offer a couple light, negative points. It can be tricky for sure
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Post by Merv on Feb 27, 2024 15:17:44 GMT 1
Seeing a lot of Madame Web headlines come across my feed today and one says that it’s failure is a sure sign of superhero fatigue.
I disagree!
Just because I’m not out here drinking pothole water doesn’t mean I’m not still thirsty.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 27, 2024 16:32:07 GMT 1
Spoilers
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 27, 2024 17:32:48 GMT 1
The second videos make a point that I have been on about for years. Bad Sony Marvel movies hurt the Marvel brand. Some are trying to make the case that Marvel/Disney could sue.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Feb 29, 2024 22:35:54 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Feb 29, 2024 23:15:27 GMT 1
Kraven will likely be just good enough for them to make a slight profit and start this whole nightmarish process again. The sad part… I may actually have to see it… Yeah… I was cured alright.
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Post by Merv on Mar 4, 2024 0:52:40 GMT 1
Not that anyone would blame her for making a joke about nobody seeing Madame Web but it's an interesting thing to make fun of while the movie is still in theatres.
Also great rack.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 5, 2024 19:33:23 GMT 1
Not that anyone would blame her for making a joke about nobody seeing Madame Web but it's an interesting thing to make fun of while the movie is still in theatres. Also great rack. She's a lovely and talented young woman, but her instincts for comedic delivery/timing are abysmal. That monologue was terrible.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 5, 2024 19:36:01 GMT 1
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 5, 2024 20:53:41 GMT 1
Madame Web is getting a 4K steelbook release.
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Post by Merv on Mar 5, 2024 21:38:05 GMT 1
Not that anyone would blame her for making a joke about nobody seeing Madame Web but it's an interesting thing to make fun of while the movie is still in theatres. Also great rack. She's a lovely and talented young woman, but her instincts for comedic delivery/timing are abysmal. That monologue was terrible. Agreed. Even in some skits I’ve seen from another she had awkward timing due to obviously reading from a prompter. A lot of guests do tho. Unless she’s selling herself as a comedian I don’t hold it against her. Admittedly I haven’t seen much of anything she’s been in, so I can’t even comment on her talent. She’s attractive…and that’s where my critique of her ends for now, lol. I shared the skit mostly for the bit of her bashing her own movie less than a month after its release.
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Post by Merv on Mar 5, 2024 21:46:01 GMT 1
Madame Web is getting a 4K steelbook release. Whoa, calm down everyone! Ihope there’s enough supply for the demand.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Mar 5, 2024 23:20:08 GMT 1
She's a lovely and talented young woman, but her instincts for comedic delivery/timing are abysmal. That monologue was terrible. Agreed. Even in some skits I’ve seen from another she had awkward timing due to obviously reading from a prompter. A lot of guests do tho. Unless she’s selling herself as a comedian I don’t hold it against her. Admittedly I haven’t seen much of anything she’s been in, so I can’t even comment on her talent. She’s attractive…and that’s where my critique of her ends for now, lol. I shared the skit mostly for the bit of her bashing her own movie less than a month after its release. Fair enough. I've seen her work in the Euphoria series and while she is no Meryl Streep she can summon an urgency to work. Not sure what the point of the series was beyond a trauma showcase though… Granted, I only caught two episodes.
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Mar 5, 2024 23:44:27 GMT 1
Madame Web is getting a 4K steelbook release. Whoa, calm down everyone! Ihope there’s enough supply for the demand. Sure to be a collector's item.
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Post by Merv on Mar 5, 2024 23:59:47 GMT 1
Whoa, calm down everyone! Ihope there’s enough supply for the demand. Sure to be a collector's item. I’m just poking fun.
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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 6, 2024 8:27:06 GMT 1
She was part of the 50 shades franchise right? If her filmography was a dating requirement , it would be the bare minimum.
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Mar 6, 2024 8:33:20 GMT 1
Whoa, calm down everyone! Ihope there’s enough supply for the demand. Sure to be a collector's item. Yeah youll have to wait a 1000 years. Going through many generations until someone finally is willing to pay double the retail price
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Post by Grandmaster on Mar 18, 2024 6:21:30 GMT 1
Still havent seen this masterpiece
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Post by Indiana Jones on Mar 18, 2024 17:03:38 GMT 1
Still havent seen this masterpiece I might actually check this out as a rental. It’s not often we get a major tentpole release, let alone a superhero movie, that has been ill-received this badly and is actually made that badly. It almost reminds me of The Snowman (2017), with Fassbender.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Mar 18, 2024 18:05:27 GMT 1
I'll definitely add it to my comic book Blu-ray collection.
Will even put it next to the MCU collection since multiverse stuff is canon!
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Post by ])-Kyle "Wild Child" Gibney-([ on Mar 18, 2024 23:14:19 GMT 1
I just took a dump in the bathroom. I christened it Madame Web. It was a big and long turd. Then I flushed it away
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