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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 27, 2022 18:05:18 GMT 1
I'M BRINGING IT BACK!!1111
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 27, 2022 18:43:30 GMT 1
I'M BRINGING IT BACK!!1111 you know my vote ;-)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 21:52:38 GMT 1
Phase 1-3 were bigger than Jesus. Phase 4 is barely bigger than Buddha.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 27, 2022 22:03:38 GMT 1
I'M BRINGING IT BACK!!1111 you know my vote ;-) You voted for the worship Kevin Feige. Didn't you?!
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 27, 2022 23:21:34 GMT 1
Phase 1-3 were bigger than Jesus. Phase 4 is barely bigger than Buddha. we all realize phase 4 isn’t even trying to be big by MCU standards right? Like, that’s not even the point.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 27, 2022 23:22:22 GMT 1
You voted for the worship Kevin Feige. Didn't you?! noooooooooope. I voted for the one I once posted lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2022 23:36:19 GMT 1
Phase 1-3 were bigger than Jesus. Phase 4 is barely bigger than Buddha. we all realize phase 4 isn’t even trying to be big by MCU standards right? Like, that’s not even the point. Its not trying to be? Well, that’s the problem then! 😀
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 27, 2022 23:39:10 GMT 1
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 0:39:46 GMT 1
we all realize phase 4 isn’t even trying to be big by MCU standards right? Like, that’s not even the point. Its not trying to be? Well, that’s the problem then! 😀 noooo that’s the point. It’s a cool down and transition period, which needs to happen. That pretty much by definition means it’s not going to be the height of epicness theyve achieved before. IMO it’s a completely unfair assessment to point out its intent and then condemn it for achieving its goal.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 1:51:15 GMT 1
Its not trying to be? Well, that’s the problem then! 😀 noooo that’s the point. It’s a cool down and transition period, which needs to happen. That pretty much by definition means it’s not going to be the height of epicness theyve achieved before. IMO it’s a completely unfair assessment to point out its intent and then condemn it for achieving its goal. Interesting. I’m not sure I follow though. The solo movies of phases 1-3 were mostly stand alone as well. How is this phase different?
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Post by Indiana Jones on Aug 28, 2022 2:21:51 GMT 1
Are they not one and the same?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 3:23:13 GMT 1
noooo that’s the point. It’s a cool down and transition period, which needs to happen. That pretty much by definition means it’s not going to be the height of epicness theyve achieved before. IMO it’s a completely unfair assessment to point out its intent and then condemn it for achieving its goal. Interesting. I’m not sure I follow though. The solo movies of phases 1-3 were mostly stand alone as well. How is this phase different? Its the perspective. The individual films and shows have been just fine, but it’s the combination of them being more diverse in style and not having an established backbone that leads many to feel differently about it. It has a different agenda than any of the previous 3. It’s not worse. It’s doing what it set out to do.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 4:12:46 GMT 1
Interesting. I’m not sure I follow though. The solo movies of phases 1-3 were mostly stand alone as well. How is this phase different? Its the perspective. The individual films and shows have been just fine, but it’s the combination of them being more diverse in style and not having an established backbone that leads many to feel differently about it. It has a different agenda than any of the previous 3. It’s not worse. It’s doing what it set out to do. Still not sure how it’s different though. Was there backbone in phase 2 or 3? Just Civil War, really. One thing I don’t understand is the complaint that it isn’t building to something. The phases never really did that, did they? They always had stand alone solos.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 5:05:49 GMT 1
Its the perspective. The individual films and shows have been just fine, but it’s the combination of them being more diverse in style and not having an established backbone that leads many to feel differently about it. It has a different agenda than any of the previous 3. It’s not worse. It’s doing what it set out to do. Still not sure how it’s different though. Was there backbone in phase 2 or 3? Just Civil War, really. One thing I don’t understand is the complaint that it isn’t building to something. The phases never really did that, did they? They always had stand alone solos. Its not that each film was building to something. It’s the overall feeling that the series was building to something. We knew avengers was coming. Through phase 2 each time a stone popped up it felt it was going somewhere. Etc. It’s not a coincidence that phase 4 started to get these “so where’s all this going now?” type of reaction and all I’m saying is that was the point. It’s not trying to be bigger than that. That’s why I started off saying that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 5:21:48 GMT 1
Still not sure how it’s different though. Was there backbone in phase 2 or 3? Just Civil War, really. One thing I don’t understand is the complaint that it isn’t building to something. The phases never really did that, did they? They always had stand alone solos. Its not that each film was building to something. It’s the overall feeling that the series was building to something. We knew avengers was coming. Through phase 2 each time a stone popped up it felt it was going somewhere. Etc. It’s not a coincidence that phase 4 started to get these “so where’s all this going now?” type of reaction and all I’m saying is that was the point. It’s not trying to be bigger than that. That’s why I started off saying that. I never saw that as an issue with Phase 4. We all knew Secret Wars was next. I just think the solo movies need a little more weight. We need to be invested in the new leads like we were with Stark and Rogers.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 8:45:13 GMT 1
Naturally. Why stop at Jesus? It is bigger than the Almighty God dun dun dun
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 28, 2022 10:02:29 GMT 1
Naturally. Why stop at Jesus? It is bigger than the Almighty God dun dun dun
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Post by Grandmaster on Aug 28, 2022 10:14:46 GMT 1
Phase 1-3 were bigger than Jesus. Phase 4 is barely bigger than Buddha. But Buddha is bigger than Jesus. Just look at the statues. So MCU Phase 4 is like the Big Bang?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 10:31:11 GMT 1
Its not that each film was building to something. It’s the overall feeling that the series was building to something. We knew avengers was coming. Through phase 2 each time a stone popped up it felt it was going somewhere. Etc. It’s not a coincidence that phase 4 started to get these “so where’s all this going now?” type of reaction and all I’m saying is that was the point. It’s not trying to be bigger than that. That’s why I started off saying that. Okay. I gotcha now. I never saw that as an issue with Phase 4 though. We all knew Secret Wars was next. I just think the solo movies need a little more weight. We need to be invested in the new leads like we were with Stark and Rogers. Oh I’m in with all the new characters already.
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Post by Merv on Aug 28, 2022 15:11:40 GMT 1
Its not that each film was building to something. It’s the overall feeling that the series was building to something. We knew avengers was coming. Through phase 2 each time a stone popped up it felt it was going somewhere. Etc. It’s not a coincidence that phase 4 started to get these “so where’s all this going now?” type of reaction and all I’m saying is that was the point. It’s not trying to be bigger than that. That’s why I started off saying that. Okay. I gotcha now. I never saw that as an issue with Phase 4 though. We all knew Secret Wars was next. I just think the solo movies need a little more weight. We need to be invested in the new leads like we were with Stark and Rogers. Just to play Devils Anus here...but who knew that? What films have given that away? I assume this is where Nick Fury is but how does that tie to anyone else in the MCU?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 18:19:11 GMT 1
Okay. I gotcha now. I never saw that as an issue with Phase 4 though. We all knew Secret Wars was next. I just think the solo movies need a little more weight. We need to be invested in the new leads like we were with Stark and Rogers. Just to play Devils Anus here...but who knew that? What films have given that away? I assume this is where Nick Fury is but how does that tie to anyone else in the MCU? Which Phase 2 movies told you Ultron would be the next villain?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 18:39:13 GMT 1
Just to play Devils Anus here...but who knew that? What films have given that away? I assume this is where Nick Fury is but how does that tie to anyone else in the MCU? Which Phase 2 movies told you Ultron would be the next villain? My thing here is that the connectivity isn’t the real discussion here. It’s the aura around the first 3 phases that doesn’t exist for phase 4. That’s the difference.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 18:53:40 GMT 1
Which Phase 2 movies told you Ultron would be the next villain? My thing here is that the connectivity isn’t the real discussion here. It’s the aura around the first 3 phases that doesn’t exist for phase 4. That’s the difference. Did people really ever believe there wouldn’t be another crossover movie? Besides, Marvel now has its fans too trained to see these movies as commercials for the next “big event.”
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 19:23:33 GMT 1
My thing here is that the connectivity isn’t the real discussion here. It’s the aura around the first 3 phases that doesn’t exist for phase 4. That’s the difference. Did people really ever believe there wouldn’t be another crossover movie? Besides, Marvel now has its fans too trained to see these movies as commercials for the next “big event.” No of course not, but you heard the “where is this going / I’m losing touch” sorts of comments. That’s what I’m talking about. The aura of “it’s all going somewhere” didn’t exist in the same way. And that’s by design. So when I say phase 4 wasn’t as big, that’s what I’m talking about. But I can’t hold that against it since the series deserved that transition period.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 28, 2022 19:31:19 GMT 1
I just want to say that I called the multiverse Saga before it was official years ago.
ALL HAIL THE MULTIVERSE!
FEIGE FINALLY EMBRACING THE WONDEROUS OF THE MULTIVERSE!!!!11111
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 19:49:20 GMT 1
Did people really ever believe there wouldn’t be another crossover movie? Besides, Marvel now has its fans too trained to see these movies as commercials for the next “big event.” No of course not, but you heard the “where is this going / I’m losing touch” sorts of comments. That’s what I’m talking about. The aura of “it’s all going somewhere” didn’t exist in the same way. And that’s by design. So when I say phase 4 wasn’t as big, that’s what I’m talking about. But I can’t hold that against it since the series deserved that transition period. There were two multiverse movies. One could argue the climax of this phase was more obvious than any before.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2022 20:14:20 GMT 1
No of course not, but you heard the “where is this going / I’m losing touch” sorts of comments. That’s what I’m talking about. The aura of “it’s all going somewhere” didn’t exist in the same way. And that’s by design. So when I say phase 4 wasn’t as big, that’s what I’m talking about. But I can’t hold that against it since the series deserved that transition period. There were two multiverse movies. One could argue the climax of this phase was more obvious than any before. you saw the response didn’t you? Up until Comic Con there was clearly “so where is this going exactly” vibe. It was present in our reviews on the channel and other sites as well. If somehow huh didn’t get that sense then I suppose we’re not really having the same conversation.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 21:38:59 GMT 1
There were two multiverse movies. One could argue the climax of this phase was more obvious than any before. you saw the response didn’t you? Up until Comic Con there was clearly “so where is this going exactly” vibe. It was present in our reviews on the channel and other sites as well. If somehow huh didn’t get that sense then I suppose we’re not really having the same conversation. I think we are having the same conversation, we’re just having them in different multiverses! 🤯
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Post by Merv on Aug 28, 2022 22:07:03 GMT 1
Just to play Devils Anus here...but who knew that? What films have given that away? I assume this is where Nick Fury is but how does that tie to anyone else in the MCU? Which Phase 2 movies told you Ultron would be the next villain? Honestly I don’t know. Did any?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2022 22:36:41 GMT 1
Which Phase 2 movies told you Ultron would be the next villain? Honestly I don’t know. Did any? Nope
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