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Post by travisbeyond on Aug 28, 2021 21:58:01 GMT 1
I don't want Fox versions of X-Men. Those movies never gave a single shit about continuity from one film to the next and most of their versions of characters were piss poor. I don't want to see them rewarded by continuing on or being included as fun cameos. I get that X-Men comic continuity is ridiculously convoluted, but that's one area where the movies don't have to emulate. X-comics have been coming out monthly for decades, it's more excusable there. I was nervous about the Spider-Man movie featuring multiple past Spider-Men stuff, but it seems to still feel like MCU Spidey so far and the previous Spider-Man films were at least coherent from one film to the next, even if they weren't all good. FoX-Men is a much worse possibility, which would be more bearable to me, if they had already established MCU versions.
I'm hoping this rumor isn't true. This has the possibility of sucking pretty hard, though will give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it. I'm okay with X-stuff being introduced here, even if it isn't optimal, but I want original MCU takes.
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Post by travisbeyond on Aug 28, 2021 22:02:04 GMT 1
Forgot to mention, Deadpool is the exception for me, because of the nature of that character. I do hope they tone back the fourth wall breaking, even though others seem to love it.
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Post by Grandmaster on Aug 28, 2021 22:05:21 GMT 1
I don't want Fox versions of X-Men. Those movies never gave a single shit about continuity from one film to the next and most of their versions of characters were piss poor. I don't want to see them rewarded by continuing on or being included as fun cameos. I get that X-Men comic continuity is ridiculously convoluted, but that's one area where the movies don't have to emulate. X-comics have been coming out monthly for decades, it's more excusable there. I was nervous about the Spider-Man movie featuring multiple past Spider-Men stuff, but it seems to still feel like MCU Spidey so far and the previous Spider-Man films were at least coherent from one film to the next, even if they weren't all good. FoX-Men is a much worse possibility, which would be more bearable to me, if they had already established MCU versions. I'm hoping this rumor isn't true. This has the possibility of sucking pretty hard, though will give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it. I'm okay with X-stuff being introduced here, even if it isn't optimal, but I want original MCU takes. I love you
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 28, 2021 22:42:26 GMT 1
If this rumor ends up being true, I wonder who's idea was it? Feige's? Raimi's? Disney perhaps?
If it's Feige I could see it being a fun little nod to his early career.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 28, 2021 23:18:51 GMT 1
I don't want Fox versions of X-Men. Those movies never gave a single shit about continuity from one film to the next and most of their versions of characters were piss poor. I don't want to see them rewarded by continuing on or being included as fun cameos. I get that X-Men comic continuity is ridiculously convoluted, but that's one area where the movies don't have to emulate. X-comics have been coming out monthly for decades, it's more excusable there. I was nervous about the Spider-Man movie featuring multiple past Spider-Men stuff, but it seems to still feel like MCU Spidey so far and the previous Spider-Man films were at least coherent from one film to the next, even if they weren't all good. FoX-Men is a much worse possibility, which would be more bearable to me, if they had already established MCU versions. I'm hoping this rumor isn't true. This has the possibility of sucking pretty hard, though will give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it. I'm okay with X-stuff being introduced here, even if it isn't optimal, but I want original MCU takes. Ditto And glad to have you Travis. How did you find us if I might ask?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2021 23:23:09 GMT 1
If this rumor ends up being true, I wonder who's idea was it? Feige's? Raimi's? Disney perhaps? If it's Feige I could see it being a fun little nod to his early career. Could’ve been either one. Feige + Raimi is like Lennon + McCartney. Two brilliant masterclass wizards working together to create their masterpiece. We are all just lucky to be along for this magic carpet ride!
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Post by travisbeyond on Aug 28, 2021 23:29:42 GMT 1
Ditto And glad to have you Travis. How did you find us if I might ask? You invited me. This is the same Travis from the MCU: Beyond Infinity podcast, that was on MCU's Bleeding Edge podcast with you, for What If...? Episode 3.
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Post by Formersamhd on Aug 29, 2021 0:17:58 GMT 1
I inadvertently angered some posters simply for predicting this a while back so I’m gonna stay out of this conversation for a while. I’ll just say this though: It makes perfect sense to use the multiverse in a meaningful way and using it to bring in X Men characters is undeniably brilliant. I still do believe those characters, while from the multiverse, are very unlikely to be played by the previous cast. And if they are it will just be the variants. Perhaps Patrick Stewart’s Xavier will tell Dr Strange of the mutants in the MCU’s universe? Something like that would be perfect. If that’s not your cup of tea I’d simply advise taking a breath and realizing that there are far more important things to worry about in this world. Far far more important things. I think they're shamed of the comics! Yes they are
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 0:22:08 GMT 1
Let's just see the execution and who they do first
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 0:25:18 GMT 1
I don't want Fox versions of X-Men. Those movies never gave a single shit about continuity from one film to the next and most of their versions of characters were piss poor. I don't want to see them rewarded by continuing on or being included as fun cameos. I get that X-Men comic continuity is ridiculously convoluted, but that's one area where the movies don't have to emulate. X-comics have been coming out monthly for decades, it's more excusable there. I was nervous about the Spider-Man movie featuring multiple past Spider-Men stuff, but it seems to still feel like MCU Spidey so far and the previous Spider-Man films were at least coherent from one film to the next, even if they weren't all good. FoX-Men is a much worse possibility, which would be more bearable to me, if they had already established MCU versions. I'm hoping this rumor isn't true. This has the possibility of sucking pretty hard, though will give it the benefit of the doubt until I see it. I'm okay with X-stuff being introduced here, even if it isn't optimal, but I want original MCU takes. The continuity wouldnt matter if they're from a different universe though. That's the thing too, they would most likely choose the good characters. I dont see this as any different if Netflix' DD were to appear in Spider-Man too
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Aug 29, 2021 0:32:01 GMT 1
I'm not getting drawn into this debate. Captain Carter is also rumored to be in this. Surely everyone can get excited about that? I imagine she’d be played by Haley Atwell. She could rejoin the MCU as her own super solider variant! I know Chalice_Of_Evil could get on board with that! Yay! This had better not be another case of 'female character goes mad with power and has to get the Old Yeller treatment' - I got enough of that crap in the final season of GoT.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 29, 2021 0:45:01 GMT 1
Ditto And glad to have you Travis. How did you find us if I might ask? You invited me. This is the same Travis from the MCU: Beyond Infinity podcast, that was on MCU's Bleeding Edge podcast with you, for What If...? Episode 3. Nice nice nice!!! Glad you made it!!! It’s funny because I totally agree with your take here, but this does seem to be probably the single most controversial thing they’ve ever done. If it’s true. At least, it’s hard to make a long list of things that compete with it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 0:47:38 GMT 1
I'm not getting drawn into this debate. Captain Carter is also rumored to be in this. Surely everyone can get excited about that? I imagine she’d be played by Haley Atwell. She could rejoin the MCU as her own super solider variant! I know Chalice_Of_Evil could get on board with that! Yay! This had better not be another case of 'female character goes mad with power and has to get the Old Yeller treatment' - I got enough of that crap in the final season of GoT. I haven’t read any spoilers for this one. But I’m pretty sure she’d turn “good” again by the third act. The main villain is probably Mordo, Nightmare or that giant octopus guy. But that brings up my own issue with the trope of “marine creature goes mad with power and has to get the Jaws treatment”
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 0:55:33 GMT 1
I’d love to see Patrick Stewart as Professor X again. Supposedly Jackman turned them down. LOL. I doubt we’d see anyone else.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 29, 2021 1:00:38 GMT 1
None. If they wanted to use the same cast as rebooted versions, there are a small handful I’d be fine with. McCavoy and Fassbender and that’s pretty much it. But I’d much much much much much rather them begin with a completely new cast. There’s no reason not to Jackman would be an abysmal decision. I can’t believe they’d even ask. It’s clearly time to move on.
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Aug 29, 2021 1:01:49 GMT 1
I actually wouldn't mind seeing Anya Taylor-Joy returning as Magik. Imagine if we got to see her fight Scarlett Witch!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 1:02:56 GMT 1
None. If they wanted to use the same cast as rebooted versions, there are a small handful I’d be fine with. McCavoy and Fassbender and that’s pretty much it. But I’d much much much much much rather them begin with a completely new cast. There’s no reason not to Jackman would be an abysmal decision. I can’t believe they’d even ask. It’s clearly time to move on. But you pm'ed me 10 minutes ago you did want to see Jackman again. Why the sudden 180?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 29, 2021 1:04:55 GMT 1
None. If they wanted to use the same cast as rebooted versions, there are a small handful I’d be fine with. McCavoy and Fassbender and that’s pretty much it. But I’d much much much much much rather them begin with a completely new cast. There’s no reason not to Jackman would be an abysmal decision. I can’t believe they’d even ask. It’s clearly time to move on. But you pm'ed me 10 minutes ago you did want to see Jackman again. Why the sudden 180? lololololol.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 1:07:16 GMT 1
None. If they wanted to use the same cast as rebooted versions, there are a small handful I’d be fine with. McCavoy and Fassbender and that’s pretty much it. But I’d much much much much much rather them begin with a completely new cast. There’s no reason not to Jackman would be an abysmal decision. I can’t believe they’d even ask. It’s clearly time to move on. But you pm'ed me 10 minutes ago you did want to see Jackman again. Why the sudden 180? He PMed me nine minutes ago and said he hates Thor TDW! Guys, I think we are dealing with an Archie variant here.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 29, 2021 1:11:40 GMT 1
But you pm'ed me 10 minutes ago you did want to see Jackman again. Why the sudden 180? He PMed me nine minutes ago and said he hates Thor TDW! Guys, I think we are dealing with an Archie variant here. pics or it didn’t happen lol
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Post by Lord Death Man on Aug 29, 2021 2:45:39 GMT 1
Negative infinity. Is that a thing? Yes, whatever a total void of Fox characters equals - that's what I want. :-)
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Post by travisbeyond on Aug 29, 2021 3:57:59 GMT 1
It’s funny because I totally agree with your take here, but this does seem to be probably the single most controversial thing they’ve ever done. If it’s true. At least, it’s hard to make a long list of things that compete with it. Yeah, thankfully the MCU's serious missteps have been few and far between so far. They also have a tendency to rectify their mistakes when possible down the line. If they wind up doing this, with actors from the Foxverse, I'll likely be very disappointed, though it won't make me stop enjoying the MCU as a whole. If they do multiverse X-characters, without returning cast members and with proper costumes, my gripes with the idea largely disappear. Also, to be completely fair, I've not taken the time to read the entire rumor, so maybe that's what they're talking about, but it doesn't sound that way from the comments.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Aug 29, 2021 6:21:43 GMT 1
It’s funny because I totally agree with your take here, but this does seem to be probably the single most controversial thing they’ve ever done. If it’s true. At least, it’s hard to make a long list of things that compete with it. Yeah, thankfully the MCU's serious missteps have been few and far between so far. They also have a tendency to rectify their mistakes when possible down the line. If they wind up doing this, with actors from the Foxverse, I'll likely be very disappointed, though it won't make me stop enjoying the MCU as a whole. If they do multiverse X-characters, without returning cast members and with proper costumes, my gripes with the idea largely disappear. Also, to be completely fair, I've not taken the time to read the entire rumor, so maybe that's what they're talking about, but it doesn't sound that way from the comments. We are running with what amounts to nothing more than a rumor at this point. I agree with you that there are multiverse paths they could take which don't devolve to offensive, but I can't help but honestly say the entire proposition makes me uneasy. It's riding too close to the edge of losing control.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 8:26:54 GMT 1
Judging by the still of Dr Strange in the video, he's either deranged or an evil version from an evil timeline.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 8:27:41 GMT 1
Yeah, thankfully the MCU's serious missteps have been few and far between so far. They also have a tendency to rectify their mistakes when possible down the line. If they wind up doing this, with actors from the Foxverse, I'll likely be very disappointed, though it won't make me stop enjoying the MCU as a whole. If they do multiverse X-characters, without returning cast members and with proper costumes, my gripes with the idea largely disappear. Also, to be completely fair, I've not taken the time to read the entire rumor, so maybe that's what they're talking about, but it doesn't sound that way from the comments. We are running with what amounts to nothing more than a rumor at this point. I agree with you that there are multiverse paths they could take which don't devolve to offensive, but I can't help but honestly say the entire proposition makes me uneasy. It's riding too close to the edge of losing control.yep
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 17:57:23 GMT 1
Judging by the still of Dr Strange in the video, he's either deranged or an evil version from an evil timeline. I think the Spider-Man trailer just makes it seem that way with quick, possibly misleading edits. People are basing these theories on 3 seconds of out of context dialogue.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2021 17:58:40 GMT 1
Now that’s the kind of enthusiasm I expected from my fellow MCU fans. Not all this doom and gloom. Can we invite that guy here?
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Post by Grandmaster on Aug 29, 2021 18:00:09 GMT 1
Now that’s the kind of enthusiasm I expected from my fellow MCU fans. Not all this doom and gloom. Can we invite that guy here? Maybe I will watch the prequels instead of NWH and MoM.
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