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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 18:29:20 GMT 1
Wasn't Black Widow heavily pirated on Disney+? Yup.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 18:32:08 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 8, 2021 18:52:06 GMT 1
Black Widow made 125 million on Disney+ alone. Shang Chi may prove that a hybrid release is more profitable in the long run. Ironically, it may prove that it's more profitable in the short run. That is to say, if you want your money upfront instead of waiting for it to trickle in over several months, a Premier Access model might be the better option (in some instances). A good example of when Premier Access might work better than a theatrical-only model is when your movie has no chance of a release in China or some other sizeable foreign market. It might be worth taking the hit on piracy to cash in as quickly as you can. This really isn't a competition or an either-or scenario. Theaters aren't going to die because of the pandemic, Premier Access, or anything else. They will simply not be as prevalent as they once were now that consumers have more choices. People were ready to revolt at the idea of having to "pay" for television when cableTV came along. Now they happily shell out up to hundreds of dollars per month for thousands of channels they can't possibly watch - yet streaming seems like a bridge too far. Cable didn't put an end to the theatrical experience. This scenario really isn't much different than that.
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 8, 2021 19:05:15 GMT 1
The Russo Bros have no movie lined up....
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Post by Lord Death Man on Sept 8, 2021 19:11:17 GMT 1
The Russo Bros have no movie lined up.... LOL! Two more "Cherries," and we'll have a Secret Wars trilogy… Day and date…
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Sept 8, 2021 19:39:00 GMT 1
Wasn't Black Widow heavily pirated on Disney+? Yup. You really can't blame them for not doing the premier release for Shang-Chi.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 19:51:26 GMT 1
You really can't blame them for not doing the premier release for Shang-Chi. Of course not. And Shang Chi literally broke box office records… during a pandemic no less! Disney shills will be shills though. Yeah, I said it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 19:53:07 GMT 1
The Russo Bros have no movie lined up.... And Doc Ock isn’t in No Way Home.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 8, 2021 20:08:01 GMT 1
The Russo Bros have no movie lined up.... LOL! Two more "Cherries," and we'll have a Secret Wars trilogy… Day and date… It’s coming
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 8, 2021 20:20:23 GMT 1
The Russo Bros have no movie lined up.... And Doc Ock isn’t in No Way Home. None of the announced movies are assigned to the Russo bros. Doc Ock is in No Way Home. Both things are not related.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2021 22:05:56 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2021 18:21:15 GMT 1
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Sept 16, 2021 1:14:49 GMT 1
It's not doing too bad all things considering.
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 16, 2021 5:38:48 GMT 1
Domestic 150 million Foreign 112 million Worldwide 262 million
Looks like Shang Chi is making less at the Box Office than Black Widow. And they are missing out on the Disney+ money. Black Widow did make an additional 125 million there.
Shang Chi would need to make another 232 million to make the same as Black Widow. I dont see that happening. Looks like the theater alone release was a mistake. Especially since Shang-Chi is a far superior movie.
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Post by Mickey Mouse on Sept 16, 2021 17:57:09 GMT 1
Domestic 150 million Foreign 112 million Worldwide 262 million Looks like Shang Chi is making less at the Box Office than Black Widow. And they are missing out on the Disney+ money. Black Widow did make an additional 125 million there. Shang Chi would need to make another 232 million to make the same as Black Widow. I dont see that happening. Looks like the theater alone release was a mistake. Especially since Shang-Chi is a far superior movie. Wrong. Why else would I release all the rest of my 2021 movies exclusively in theaters? You sayin the Mouse is stupid? Cause the Mick Man don’t play.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 18:36:01 GMT 1
Domestic 150 million Foreign 112 million Worldwide 262 million Looks like Shang Chi is making less at the Box Office than Black Widow. And they are missing out on the Disney+ money. Black Widow did make an additional 125 million there. Shang Chi would need to make another 232 million to make the same as Black Widow. I dont see that happening. Looks like the theater alone release was a mistake. Especially since Shang-Chi is a far superior movie. Wrong. Why else would I release all the rest of my 2021 movies exclusively in theaters? You sayin the Mouse is stupid? Cause the Mick Man don’t play. Right you are, Mr Mouse! Doing a one to one comparison to Black Widow is misguided at best. Black Widow’s second weekend was practically nonexistent. And it was always going to do better than Shang Chi given it’s star character and release date. Pirating cost the movie millions. And Shang Chi literally broke Labor Day records and could not have done better given the circumstances. And of course, you in your infinite wisdom chose to go theaters only for the duration. Why would you do that if it weren’t the obvious correct choice?
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Post by Mickey Mouse on Sept 16, 2021 18:37:52 GMT 1
Wrong. Why else would I release all the rest of my 2021 movies exclusively in theaters? You sayin the Mouse is stupid? Cause the Mick Man don’t play. Right you are, Mr Mouse! Doing a one to one comparison to Black Widow is misguided at best. Black Widow’s second weekend was practically nonexistent. And it was always going to do better than Shang Chi given it’s star character and release date. Pirating cost the movie millions. And Shang Chi literally broke Labor Day records and could not have done better given the circumstances. And of course, you in your infinite wisdom chose to go theaters only for the duration. Why would you do that if it weren’t the obvious correct choice? Do I look like I need your help, bitch?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 18:39:00 GMT 1
Right you are, Mr Mouse! Doing a one to one comparison to Black Widow is misguided at best. Black Widow’s second weekend was practically nonexistent. And it was always going to do better than Shang Chi given it’s star character and release date. Pirating cost the movie millions. And Shang Chi literally broke Labor Day records and could not have done better given the circumstances. And of course, you in your infinite wisdom chose to go theaters only for the duration. Why would you do that if it weren’t the obvious correct choice? Do I look like I need your help, bitch? Sorry.
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 16, 2021 18:45:44 GMT 1
Right you are, Mr Mouse! Doing a one to one comparison to Black Widow is misguided at best. Black Widow’s second weekend was practically nonexistent. And it was always going to do better than Shang Chi given it’s star character and release date. Pirating cost the movie millions. And Shang Chi literally broke Labor Day records and could not have done better given the circumstances. And of course, you in your infinite wisdom chose to go theaters only for the duration. Why would you do that if it weren’t the obvious correct choice? Do I look like I need your help, bitch? Dont care who you are but this kind of language is not appreciated here. Ackbar is my friend and an appreciated member here. Keep it civil.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2021 19:11:34 GMT 1
Do I look like I need your help, bitch? Dont care who you are but this kind of language is not appreciated here. Ackbar is my friend and an appreciated member here. Keep it civil. Much appreciated. But me and the Mickster go way back. I think he was just playin around. (I hope. I’ve always been a little scared of him. And have you met his wife, Minnie? Total psycho)
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Post by Goofy on Sept 16, 2021 20:05:32 GMT 1
Domestic 150 million Foreign 112 million Worldwide 262 million Looks like Shang Chi is making less at the Box Office than Black Widow. And they are missing out on the Disney+ money. Black Widow did make an additional 125 million there. Shang Chi would need to make another 232 million to make the same as Black Widow. I dont see that happening. Looks like the theater alone release was a mistake. Especially since Shang-Chi is a far superior movie. Wrong. Why else would I release all the rest of my 2021 movies exclusively in theaters? You sayin the Mouse is stupid? Cause the Mick Man don’t play. Gwarsh Mickey, should i break his legs like the last guy who bad mouthed you? ah-hyuck!
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Post by Donald Duck on Sept 16, 2021 20:26:23 GMT 1
Quack, quack... quack quack quack!
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Sept 16, 2021 20:35:37 GMT 1
We have quite some illustrious visitors to this thread, I do declare.
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Sept 16, 2021 20:43:05 GMT 1
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Sept 16, 2021 20:43:54 GMT 1
Well Blomkamp doesn't seem to be a fan of his fellow director. I wonder if the 2 of them will have an online argument like fanboys.
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Post by I IS MINNIE MOUSE, DINGBATS! on Sept 16, 2021 20:56:28 GMT 1
Dont care who you are but this kind of language is not appreciated here. Ackbar is my friend and an appreciated member here. Keep it civil. Much appreciated. But me and the Mickster go way back. I think he was just playin around. (I hope. I’ve always been a little scared of him. And have you met his wife, Minnie? Total psycho) Who IS you !@$%#!& DINGBAT calling a PSYCHO, DINGBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by AQUA JAR!™ on Sept 16, 2021 21:04:42 GMT 1
Much appreciated. But me and the Mickster go way back. I think he was just playin around. (I hope. I’ve always been a little scared of him. And have you met his wife, Minnie? Total psycho) Who IS you !@$%#!& DINGBAT calling a PSYCHO, DINGBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by AQUA SALZ! on Sept 16, 2021 21:06:27 GMT 1
Much appreciated. But me and the Mickster go way back. I think he was just playin around. (I hope. I’ve always been a little scared of him. And have you met his wife, Minnie? Total psycho) Who IS you !@$%#!& DINGBAT calling a PSYCHO, DINGBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Foghorn Leghorn on Sept 16, 2021 23:49:52 GMT 1
Who IS you !@$%#!& DINGBAT calling a PSYCHO, DINGBAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That dog’s as subtle as a hand grenade in a barrel of oat meal
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Post by Grandmaster on Sept 17, 2021 5:55:51 GMT 1
Wrong. Why else would I release all the rest of my 2021 movies exclusively in theaters? You sayin the Mouse is stupid? Cause the Mick Man don’t play. Right you are, Mr Mouse! Doing a one to one comparison to Black Widow is misguided at best. Black Widow’s second weekend was practically nonexistent. And it was always going to do better than Shang Chi given it’s star character and release date. Pirating cost the movie millions. And Shang Chi literally broke Labor Day records and could not have done better given the circumstances. And of course, you in your infinite wisdom chose to go theaters only for the duration. Why would you do that if it weren’t the obvious correct choice? Its simple. The MCU shills went out to the theater to see the movie on the big screen. But they, for the most part, went once because of the pandemic. Hardly any repeat viewings. Releasing the movie also on Premier Access secured Marvel/Disney for Black Widow an additional 125 million dollars. For Shang Chi it would probably have been more or less the same. Why? Because you can than have safe repeat viewings. I did it for Black Widow. Go theater and buy premier access. I would have done so again for Shang Chi. And I would not be the only one. There are markets where theaters are closed. Premier Access on Disney Plus would have made them a ton of money. In what world is it smart to leave a lot of money on the table? And pirating? Every movie that comes out in theaters is on pirate streaming sites the same day in high quality. That argument makes no sense. People that pirate will pirate anyway. People that are willing to pay will do so. See Black Widow's 125 million made on Disney Plus. Im fine if you dont like streaming services. But they exist and will only get bigger. Better use them to make money. That is the smart move from a business point of view.
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