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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 2, 2021 16:47:42 GMT 1
One more week and then the crazyness begins. Cant wait.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 9, 2021 8:48:07 GMT 1
Well thats a great start. I think the most powerful first episode of al their D+ shows to date.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 11:34:05 GMT 1
So who are they hunting exactly? Wasnt clear on that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 11:38:28 GMT 1
Also didnt the Avengers break the time rule? Remember how Bruce and the Ancient One had that talk?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2021 11:40:18 GMT 1
Also behind the judge, those three faces. Was the one in the middle Kang? Or are they all just the time-keeper gods' faces?
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 9, 2021 13:31:18 GMT 1
Also didnt the Avengers break the time rule? Remember how Bruce and the Ancient One had that talk? Yes but according to the judge that was supposed to happen.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 9, 2021 13:31:53 GMT 1
So who are they hunting exactly? Wasnt clear on that They claim its a Loki variant. Could very well turn out to be Kang or something.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 9, 2021 16:06:26 GMT 1
So who are they hunting exactly? Wasnt clear on that They claim its a Loki variant. Could very well turn out to be Kang or something. Nah, it's Mephisto. The writers denied it, so it must be true. Eric at New Rockstars bathes in your blood, disbeliever!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 11:55:54 GMT 1
They claim its a Loki variant. Could very well turn out to be Kang or something. Nah, it's Mephisto. The writers denied it, so it must be true. Eric at New Rockstars bathes in your blood, disbeliever! Im going to feel the same way if it's not Kang!!!#@#@!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 12:03:06 GMT 1
Also didnt the Avengers break the time rule? Remember how Bruce and the Ancient One had that talk? Yes but according to the judge that was supposed to happen. I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 10, 2021 16:41:17 GMT 1
Yes but according to the judge that was supposed to happen. I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise? You think that Jonathan Lee Majors is actually going to show up? It doesn't seem very likely to me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2021 20:43:23 GMT 1
I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise? You think that Jonathan Lee Majors is actually going to show up? It doesn't seem very likely to me. Probably not. Too early to tell. Just a fun thought really tbh Then again who wouldve thought Sharon Carter would eventually be the powerbroker or that MCU movie characters would turn up in series'?
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 11, 2021 5:43:08 GMT 1
You think that Jonathan Lee Majors is actually going to show up? It doesn't seem very likely to me. Probably not. Too early to tell. Just a fun thought really tbh Then again who wouldve thought Sharon Carter would eventually be the powerbroker or that MCU movie characters would turn up in series'? The latter was never in question. These characters will show anywhere Marvel needs them. I mean Ruffalo has been announced for She-Hulk. Its all MCU and the actors are under contract. I always expected things like Rhodey showing up in TFATWS.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 8:21:37 GMT 1
Probably not. Too early to tell. Just a fun thought really tbh Then again who wouldve thought Sharon Carter would eventually be the powerbroker or that MCU movie characters would turn up in series'? The latter was never in question. These characters will show anywhere Marvel needs them. I mean Ruffalo has been announced for She-Hulk. Its all MCU and the actors are under contract. I always expected things like Rhodey showing up in TFATWS. Fair enough, it was just a point I was making
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 11, 2021 15:29:09 GMT 1
Also didnt the Avengers break the time rule? Remember how Bruce and the Ancient One had that talk? Yes and no, The Avengers fixed it themselves by putting back all the pieces. Plus the TVA said that was supposed to happen, so I don't think all variances are automatically bad. It's purely about what keeps the "Sacred Timeline" flowing And I think it's less about whether you broke it yourself, and more about, if you're in the right place in the line.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 11, 2021 15:33:37 GMT 1
I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise? You think that Jonathan Lee Majors is actually going to show up? It doesn't seem very likely to me. I was wondering if he doesn't look a lot like the middle time keeper. As in maybe Kang is the head of the time keepers. Maybe he's all of them??? Maybe he caused the war to direct time towards an end he desires and the person Mobius and Loki are hunting figured this out?
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 11, 2021 15:38:21 GMT 1
Yes but according to the judge that was supposed to happen. I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise? I was just thinking this same thing in my response to LDM Kang, possibly having caused the mutliversal war to direct everything in a direction he desires. Which would answer a big question I had, why were multiple timelines in conflict anyway? Maybe the "resets" we saw of the dude without the ticket apparently being disintegrated, was him being reset as a TVA agent? IDK. Interesting possibility though. Did you see how big that city was?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 11, 2021 16:14:23 GMT 1
You think that Jonathan Lee Majors is actually going to show up? It doesn't seem very likely to me. Probably not. Too early to tell. Just a fun thought really tbh Then again who wouldve thought Sharon Carter would eventually be the powerbroker or that MCU movie characters would turn up in series'? I think Mobius is what he appears to be, a regular TVA investigator. He may turn out to have his own agenda, but I don't think he'll turn out to be someone else entirely. It just seems unlikely and perhaps even unnecessary. I imagine they'll be one or two surprises before Loki is done. Still, if we've learned anything from the previous two series, it's that Marvel usually follows the most straightforward storytelling path. The ideas about time travel and the multiverse in Loki are complicated enough to follow without everyone turning out to be someone else. Honestly, I'd be surprised if this show sets up anything in Quantummania. We've yet to see how the movies will respond to or acknowledge the TV shows. I suspect that the connections might be more shallow than we anticipated. I think Westview will be to Doctor Strange 2 what the infinity stones are to Loki - we'll see. But I guess a little headcanon never hurt anyone. It's all harmless fun until everyone explodes in Twitter rage because Mephisto didn't show up. :-)
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jun 11, 2021 16:33:18 GMT 1
I was watching a bit of Grace's POV on the show and she does make a great point. That being, is the TVA sinister in origin. She believes Kang or whoever is in charge is trying to control things and that the animated video is not telling the truth. She also believes the workers could be ex-variants, like that one person who had no idea what a fish is ie memory could be wiped and Mobius drinking some old school cans Also the Loki variant might be the female Loki weve seen in photos Who knows? Maybe Mobius is Kang in disguise? I was just thinking this same thing in my response to LDM Kang, possibly having caused the mutliversal war to direct everything in a direction he desires. Which would answer a big question I had, why were multiple timelines in conflict anyway? Maybe the "resets" we saw of the dude without the ticket apparently being disintegrated, was him being reset as a TVA agent? IDK. Interesting possibility though. Did you see how big that city was? Well, let's see -- people get mind-wiped, held hostage in a bubble reality, and then are forced to serve an all-powerful master's whims. Where have we heard that before? No disrespect to her peroxided majesty, but I think it's a bit too soon for Marvel to start recycling their plots on streaming. That scenario more or less is what happened in Wandavision. I do think there is some corruption in the TVA. That sort of matches with the anti-authority sensibilities of Marvel's younger writing squad. Maybe the space lizards are directly responsible for the issues in the timeline they claim to be charged with protecting. I doubt they've conscripted an army of slaves to help them rectify existence. If anything, variants who become temporally homeless are likely recruited by choice - and it must be a fantastic offer considering that you literally have nowhere else to go. It's hard to speculate because it's unclear what a "reset" or a "prune" does precisely. I'm surprised at how comfortable everyone is with the idea that Loki is the hero of this series. If not for the fact that a variant is apparently at war with the TVA, I'd be more inclined to suspect that Loki is the villain.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Jun 11, 2021 18:32:08 GMT 1
I was just thinking this same thing in my response to LDM Kang, possibly having caused the mutliversal war to direct everything in a direction he desires. Which would answer a big question I had, why were multiple timelines in conflict anyway? Maybe the "resets" we saw of the dude without the ticket apparently being disintegrated, was him being reset as a TVA agent? IDK. Interesting possibility though. Did you see how big that city was? Well, let's see -- people get mind-wiped, held hostage in a bubble reality, and then are forced to serve an all-powerful master's whims. Where have we heard that before? No disrespect to her peroxided majesty, but I think it's a bit too soon for Marvel to start recycling their plots on streaming. That scenario more or less is what happened in Wandavision. I do think there is some corruption in the TVA. That sort of matches with the anti-authority sensibilities of Marvel's younger righting squad. Maybe the space lizards are directly responsible for the issues in the timeline they claim to be charged with protecting. I doubt they've conscripted an army of slaves to help them rectify existence. If anything, variants who become temporally homeless are likely recruited by choice - and it must be a fantastic offer considering that you literally have nowhere else to go. It's hard to speculate because it's unclear what a "reset" or a "prune" does precisely. I'm surprised at how comfortable everyone is with the idea that Loki is the hero of this series. If not for the fact that a variant is apparently at war with the TVA, I'd be more inclined to suspect that Loki is the villain. All good thoughts sir. I should confess I make no predictions. I suspect this series will be wild AF
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2021 22:02:15 GMT 1
Probably not. Too early to tell. Just a fun thought really tbh Then again who wouldve thought Sharon Carter would eventually be the powerbroker or that MCU movie characters would turn up in series'? I think Mobius is what he appears to be, a regular TVA investigator. He may turn out to have his own agenda, but I don't think he'll turn out to be someone else entirely. It just seems unlikely and perhaps even unnecessary. I imagine they'll be one or two surprises before Loki is done. Still, if we've learned anything from the previous two series, it's that Marvel usually follows the most straightforward storytelling path. The ideas about time travel and the multiverse in Loki are complicated enough to follow without everyone turning out to be someone else. Honestly, I'd be surprised if this show sets up anything in Quantummania. We've yet to see how the movies will respond to or acknowledge the TV shows. I suspect that the connections might be more shallow than we anticipated. I think Westview will be to Doctor Strange 2 what the infinity stones are to Loki - we'll see.
But I guess a little headcanon never hurt anyone. It's all harmless fun until everyone explodes in Twitter rage because Mephisto didn't show up. :-) I remember someone saying it could set up Thor 4. I mean that should be an obvious choice right? Although when is that due out? I also wonder how much the pandemic influenced the telling of the larger MCU story
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 2:46:58 GMT 1
I totally agree here. Loki was way out of character. Set the url to the specific time when they talk about that.
Aside from that, I get where theyre coming from re time, destiny and making some events insignificant or have no value so far, but they are making quite a few assumptions there. There is still a lot of show left to go. This was only the pilot after all..
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2021 6:09:58 GMT 1
Interesting talk about Kang. One comment more interesting than the rest is this. Would they intro someone like Kang in Ant-Man 3? Makes more sense to do it in Loki even if it is on the small screen
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2021 7:04:58 GMT 1
Did Loki disappear from or remain in the main MCU timeline?
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Post by cyberneticshark on Jun 13, 2021 8:11:26 GMT 1
What Is everyone's thought on this TVA rumor, That the TVA helped the Avengers win Endgame?
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 13, 2021 9:26:32 GMT 1
Did Loki disappear from or remain in the main MCU timeline? This show has 2012 Avengers Loki. When he was at his most villain-y. During the episode he realises he cant go back to his own timeline since he passed away in that one. So this show will take place in the MCU but outside the main timeline while it still can influence that same main time line. At least thats how I understand it.
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 13, 2021 9:29:03 GMT 1
What Is everyone's thought on this TVA rumor, That the TVA helped the Avengers win Endgame? I havent heard it but it makes sense. The judge did state the events of Endgame were supposed to happen. So I guess they have some kind of agenda which Thanos had crossed so they let the Avengers mess with the sacred timeline.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 19:52:58 GMT 1
What Is everyone's thought on this TVA rumor, That the TVA helped the Avengers win Endgame? What are the details?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2021 19:54:55 GMT 1
POTENTIAL SPOILERS FOR LOKI
Geez, I think I have to check out that comic. That story sounds epic! Obviously spoilers for the comic too haha
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Post by Grandmaster on Jun 16, 2021 8:45:39 GMT 1
So that escalated in various speeds of time.
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