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Post by ArArArchStanton on Nov 21, 2023 21:13:12 GMT 1
Where does everybody stand on the viability of Superman in this era? Post Brandon Routhe, and post Cavill who despite continued appearances never heard a sequel since 2013. Is it time for more? Is there anything strong they have left with this character?
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Nov 21, 2023 21:57:26 GMT 1
Where does everybody stand on the viability of Superman in this era? Post Brandon Routhe, and post Cavill who despite continued appearances never heard a sequel since 2013. Is it time for more? Is there anything strong they have left with this character? Yes, because no film has ever even touched a lot of the better Superman stories. If somebody who actually cared about Superman would just adapt some of his better material and did it well, they'd be gold.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Nov 23, 2023 17:47:35 GMT 1
What about Lana Lang?
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Post by Indiana Jones on Nov 26, 2023 17:54:59 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Nov 27, 2023 15:14:58 GMT 1
Spent the last 20 hours trying to think of what I knew the guy from…Vacation. Edit: it kept tripping me up because he looks just like someone I knew as a kid who happened to go out to LA and try their luck at acting. But he’d be much older and I don’t think he had the chops.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 4, 2023 2:31:41 GMT 1
No love for Bizarro or Toyman?
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 8, 2023 19:56:49 GMT 1
"Yeah! Yeah, I'll take on Marlon Brando!" Russell said with a laugh, referencing Richard Donner's classic Superman: The Movie. "I mean there was something awesome about the way he was just looking around - I don't care that he was looking at his lines - he's crazy-great to watch!" "You know what: we don't know a lot about Jor-El. Maybe there's a version..." he continued before trailing off. "I never heard this, so I don't know. James Gunn was a blast to work with, though, so you never know."
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 11, 2023 21:37:17 GMT 1
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 15, 2023 23:52:24 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 16, 2023 2:03:44 GMT 1
Apparently the Mantis casting is fake.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 24, 2023 22:18:00 GMT 1
Filming begins in March 2024.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 2, 2024 19:10:06 GMT 1
Last night, Gunn took to Threads to answer some questions about the movie and gave an update on how it’s all going: “It’s going swimmingly. Sets being built, costumes being finished, actors studying roles, prosthetics and VFX models being made, flights booked. Here we go.” Asked if we can assume the concept art for the costumes, such as Superman’s outfit, are finished, he responded: “You can’t!”. Asked when he think they’ll be finished, he says: “By the time we shoot.” That seems to be why the other week he indicated there would not be a costume reveal photo before the film begins production – because the designs haven’t been finalised yet. Asked if he had about 90% of the cast locked in, he responded: “More” before confirming that casting is not 100% locked yet – meaning we could hear another announcement or two. www.darkhorizons.com/gunn-shares-superman-pre-production-update/
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 8, 2024 19:46:10 GMT 1
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 8, 2024 22:57:39 GMT 1
All she has to do is not be boring or enter the scene talking about dick-measuring and she'll automatically be an improvement over the last big-screen Lois Lane.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 9, 2024 2:05:02 GMT 1
All she has to do is not be boring or enter the scene talking about dick-measuring and she'll automatically be an improvement over the last big-screen Lois Lane. She's going to do at least one of those things, though.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 9, 2024 2:36:06 GMT 1
All she has to do is not be boring or enter the scene talking about dick-measuring and she'll automatically be an improvement over the last big-screen Lois Lane. She's going to do at least one of those things, though. That psychic ability you have is really something. You should use it on the Lotto to become a squillionaire.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 9, 2024 2:55:06 GMT 1
She's going to do at least one of those things, though. That psychic ability you have is really something. You should use it on the Lotto to become a squillionaire. Well, you know, for me, the action is the juice.
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Post by Merv on Jan 9, 2024 3:08:25 GMT 1
That psychic ability you have is really something. You should use it on the Lotto to become a squillionaire. Well, you know, for me, the action is the juice.
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Post by Merv on Jan 9, 2024 3:12:14 GMT 1
Ya know, Ive read several Superman comic storylines, seen almost all of the Superman films, even a few animated ones...and Lois is a character Ive never really connected with. I get her from a love interest angle but when I try to think of her character beyond that or think of her without seeing her through the lens of Clark Kent...I can't really. Margot Kidders is by far the most memorable version for me. I might have to try and see if I can do something about that.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 9, 2024 5:20:38 GMT 1
Ya know, Ive read several Superman comic storylines, seen almost all of the Superman films, even a few animated ones...and Lois is a character Ive never really connected with. I get her from a love interest angle but when I try to think of her character beyond that or think of her without seeing her through the lens of Clark Kent...I can't really. Margot Kidders is by far the most memorable version for me. I might have to try and see if I can do something about that. I find the character to be generally unlikable… It has nothing to do with "girl power" or a hatred of "strong female characters." I just think that if she were a real person, she would be a dick. I base that primarily on her treatment of Clark in the Donner films. It's unfair, but first impressions count. No actress, except maybe Phyllis Coates, has ever made me care about the character.
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Post by AQUA RAPTOR! on Jan 9, 2024 5:45:41 GMT 1
Ya know, Ive read several Superman comic storylines, seen almost all of the Superman films, even a few animated ones...and Lois is a character Ive never really connected with. I get her from a love interest angle but when I try to think of her character beyond that or think of her without seeing her through the lens of Clark Kent...I can't really. Margot Kidders is by far the most memorable version for me. I might have to try and see if I can do something about that. I find the character to be generally unlikable… It has nothing to do with "girl power" or a hatred of "strong female characters." I just think that if she were a real person, she would be a dick. I base that primarily on her treatment of Clark in the Donner films. It's unfair, but first impressions count. No actress, except maybe Phyllis Coates, has ever made me care about the character. I don't generally count the Donner films as a great representation of the Superman mythos as a whole. Lois from the 90s animated series might be a good palette cleanser.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 9, 2024 6:37:08 GMT 1
Ya know, Ive read several Superman comic storylines, seen almost all of the Superman films, even a few animated ones...and Lois is a character Ive never really connected with. I get her from a love interest angle but when I try to think of her character beyond that or think of her without seeing her through the lens of Clark Kent...I can't really. Margot Kidders is by far the most memorable version for me. I might have to try and see if I can do something about that. I find the character to be generally unlikable… It has nothing to do with "girl power" or a hatred of "strong female characters." I just think that if she were a real person, she would be a dick. I base that primarily on her treatment of Clark in the Donner films. It's unfair, but first impressions count. No actress, except maybe Phyllis Coates, has ever made me care about the character. Being a dick certainly didn't stop people from loving Tony Stark. But I guess you gotta be a quippy/'funny' dick for people to forgive the dickishness. I wonder how many people would get sick of Tony after being in his presence for 15 minutes if he were a real person. It seems to me when a male character acts like a dick, they're 'flawed', but when a female character acts like a dick...they're just a 'bitch' and that's it.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 9, 2024 7:19:14 GMT 1
I find the character to be generally unlikable… It has nothing to do with "girl power" or a hatred of "strong female characters." I just think that if she were a real person, she would be a dick. I base that primarily on her treatment of Clark in the Donner films. It's unfair, but first impressions count. No actress, except maybe Phyllis Coates, has ever made me care about the character. Being a dick certainly didn't stop people from loving Tony Stark. But I guess you gotta be a quippy/'funny' dick for people to forgive the dickishness. I wonder how many people would get sick of Tony after being in his presence for 15 minutes if he were a real person. It seems to me when a male character acts like a dick, they're 'flawed', but when a female character acts like a dick...they're just a 'bitch' and that's it. Okay, then… Let's talk. Walk with me… Putting aside the somewhat asymmetric comparison (i.e., Lois being a supporting character while Tony is a lead character) and your deep commitment to, let's call it, feminism (that may be fomenting a slight bias here), the difference between the two characters is self-awareness. Tony is indeed a know-it-all jerk and a narcissist, but he is self-aware in a way that Lois is not, making all of the difference in fan endearment. Self-awareness goes a long way toward helping fans forgive even the most egregious flaws. Those who are self-aware are able to seek forgiveness and understanding. Those who are unapologetic narcissistic perfectionists are generally unlikable. Lois - in modern renditions - is largely oblivious to how her single-minded devotion to nabbing "the story" at any cost makes her seem like an amoral paparazzo who might snap a photo of you in your underwear from the bushes rather than the Pulitzer-chasing journalist she must imagine herself to be. Lois, perhaps to her credit, seems unconcerned with the impact of her work on humanity - she is only concerned with her own precision. It doesn't help that her relationships with her father, boss, sister, and Clark Kent seem borderline antagonistic. Only Jimmy and Superman seem to garner favor with her as one is clearly less than her while the other is more. Even this cursory analysis of the character engenders nothing but mild annoyance. Before drafting this post, I sincerely thought I might be indifferent to the character, but now, with your help, I clearly see that --- I hate Lois Lane.
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Post by Chalice_Of_Evil on Jan 9, 2024 10:38:09 GMT 1
Being a dick certainly didn't stop people from loving Tony Stark. But I guess you gotta be a quippy/'funny' dick for people to forgive the dickishness. I wonder how many people would get sick of Tony after being in his presence for 15 minutes if he were a real person. It seems to me when a male character acts like a dick, they're 'flawed', but when a female character acts like a dick...they're just a 'bitch' and that's it. Okay, then… Let's talk. Walk with me… Putting aside the somewhat asymmetric comparison (i.e., Lois being a supporting character while Tony is a lead character) and your deep commitment to, let's call it, feminism (that may be fomenting a slight bias here), the difference between the two characters is self-awareness. Tony is indeed a know-it-all jerk and a narcissist, but he is self-aware in a way that Lois is not, making all of the difference in fan endearment. Self-awareness goes a long way toward helping fans forgive even the most egregious flaws. Those who are self-aware are able to seek forgiveness and understanding. Those who are unapologetic narcissistic perfectionists are generally unlikable. Lois - in modern renditions - is largely oblivious to how her single-minded devotion to nabbing "the story" at any cost makes her seem like an amoral paparazzo who might snap a photo of you in your underwear from the bushes rather than the Pulitzer-chasing journalist she must imagine herself to be. Lois, perhaps to her credit, seems unconcerned with the impact of her work on humanity - she is only concerned with her own precision. It doesn't help that her relationships with her father, boss, sister, and Clark Kent seem borderline antagonistic. Only Jimmy and Superman seem to garner favor with her as one is clearly less than her while the other is more. Even this cursory analysis of the character engenders nothing but mild annoyance. Before drafting this post, I sincerely thought I might be indifferent to the character, but now, with your help, I clearly see that --- I hate Lois Lane. Always appreciate being condescended to. Don't get enough of that on this forum. So, if you're an arsehole but you *know* you're an arsehole...that makes being an arsehole 'okay'? That must be cool for all those people who want to be arseholes to other people, they just have to know that they're being arseholes and that makes it totally 'justified'. It's really quite amazing the double standards there are when it comes to certain characters doing something and other characters doing those same things - the different reactions they receive. Tony can be an absolute dick to people, but he gets away with it because he's 'charming', 'funny' and makes stuff that blows shit up. So every interpretation of Lois Lane has been the same? She's all those things you describe her as in every version? And with your 'help' I have come to realise Lois Lane is yet another unfairly treated female character who, if she were a guy, would totally be let off the hook for her behaviour.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Jan 9, 2024 17:17:13 GMT 1
Okay, then… Let's talk. Walk with me… Putting aside the somewhat asymmetric comparison (i.e., Lois being a supporting character while Tony is a lead character) and your deep commitment to, let's call it, feminism (that may be fomenting a slight bias here), the difference between the two characters is self-awareness. Tony is indeed a know-it-all jerk and a narcissist, but he is self-aware in a way that Lois is not, making all of the difference in fan endearment. Self-awareness goes a long way toward helping fans forgive even the most egregious flaws. Those who are self-aware are able to seek forgiveness and understanding. Those who are unapologetic narcissistic perfectionists are generally unlikable. Lois - in modern renditions - is largely oblivious to how her single-minded devotion to nabbing "the story" at any cost makes her seem like an amoral paparazzo who might snap a photo of you in your underwear from the bushes rather than the Pulitzer-chasing journalist she must imagine herself to be. Lois, perhaps to her credit, seems unconcerned with the impact of her work on humanity - she is only concerned with her own precision. It doesn't help that her relationships with her father, boss, sister, and Clark Kent seem borderline antagonistic. Only Jimmy and Superman seem to garner favor with her as one is clearly less than her while the other is more. Even this cursory analysis of the character engenders nothing but mild annoyance. Before drafting this post, I sincerely thought I might be indifferent to the character, but now, with your help, I clearly see that --- I hate Lois Lane. Always appreciate being condescended to. Don't get enough of that on this forum. So, if you're an arsehole but you *know* you're an arsehole...that makes being an arsehole 'okay'? That must be cool for all those people who want to be arseholes to other people, they just have to know that they're being arseholes and that makes it totally 'justified'. It's really quite amazing the double standards there are when it comes to certain characters doing something and other characters doing those same things - the different reactions they receive. Tony can be an absolute dick to people, but he gets away with it because he's 'charming', 'funny' and makes stuff that blows shit up. So every interpretation of Lois Lane has been the same? She's all those things you describe her as in every version? And with your 'help' I have come to realise Lois Lane is yet another unfairly treated female character who, if she were a guy, would totally be let off the hook for her behaviour. Always glad to be of service. I don't hate Lois Lane; that was a joke. But, regardless of what you or I think, the character has endured for nearly a century, racking up countless stories and interpretations. It's a testament to her lasting appeal - and today, she adds one more to her fan club. Who am I to argue with results? Perhaps, as the interviewer suggests, a new set of spectacles might be just what the doctor ordered to clear away the fog of indifference.
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Post by WOLVERINE JACK! on Jan 10, 2024 4:09:18 GMT 1
Lois Lane is in our ears and in our eyes There beneath the red Kryptonian skies Lois Lane!
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 17, 2024 21:21:00 GMT 1
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Post by Merv on Jan 17, 2024 22:59:23 GMT 1
I may have to reread my Authority comics...they should be around here somewhere.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 21, 2024 17:33:06 GMT 1
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Post by Indiana Jones on Jan 27, 2024 1:16:16 GMT 1
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