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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 18, 2023 22:40:32 GMT 1
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 18, 2023 23:13:30 GMT 1
Marvel did the right thing.
And now they have a perfect escape from a problematic multiversal saga. Unfortunately, the focus will likely shift to the Young Influencers… erm, I mean Avengers.
Majors can settle in for his future in obscure Whiskey ads in Japan and faith-based movies.
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Post by LokisMom on Dec 18, 2023 23:54:12 GMT 1
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Post by LokisMom on Dec 18, 2023 23:58:33 GMT 1
Marvel did the right thing. And now they have a perfect escape from a problematic multiversal saga. Unfortunately, the focus will likely shift to the Young Influencers… erm, I mean Avengers. Majors can settle in for his future in obscure Whiskey ads in Japan and faith-based movies. They can simply recast another actor. At this point, I doubt the fans would mind. I don’t find the Multiverse problematic, just over ambitious. The multiverse does speak to our current existential crisis of two or more competing realities and in which only one version can be right. Which will win, I wonder?
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 19, 2023 0:10:06 GMT 1
He's been convicted of 3rd degree misdemeanor assault (which means unintentional) and a harassment violation (less than a misdemeanor) according to the news articles I've read. Hollywood immediately fires him. I find this ironic because this is the same Hollywood that never gets tired of making movies and shows designed to make us all feel guilty about how hard it is for ex-cons to get a job and restart their lives.
On the flip side, if they had not fired him, I would be giving them hell with; "This criminal can work for you, but Gina Carano can't?!".
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 19, 2023 0:30:10 GMT 1
Well since we can't get him as T'Challa, Blade or Reed Richards how about John David Washington as Kang?
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 19, 2023 8:43:03 GMT 1
Such bullshit
This calls for a podcast people
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 19, 2023 15:29:40 GMT 1
Well since we can't get him as T'Challa, Blade or Reed Richards how about John David Washington as Kang? Make it Denzel and it’s a deal.
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Post by Merv on Dec 19, 2023 21:32:11 GMT 1
I laughed at a few fun takes on his character now that he's kaput.
He Who Doesn't Remain
Dang
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 19, 2023 22:17:31 GMT 1
Well since we can't get him as T'Challa, Blade or Reed Richards how about John David Washington as Kang? Make it Denzel and it’s a deal. Denzel could play an older variant of Kang! Make him Beyonder, the alleged main Kang variant villain of Secret Wars.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 20, 2023 5:23:09 GMT 1
Marvel really has hit a run of bad luck and miscalculations. James gun, Chadwick, Covid, several projects not getting the buzz they might have hoped, not capitalizing on new established characters, general uncertainty, and now the lead antagonist actor for the entire next saga is out. To their credit, any other studio would be way off the rails with all that. Hell DC checked half that list every film.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 20, 2023 17:56:54 GMT 1
Marvel did the right thing. And now they have a perfect escape from a problematic multiversal saga. Unfortunately, the focus will likely shift to the Young Influencers… erm, I mean Avengers. Majors can settle in for his future in obscure Whiskey ads in Japan and faith-based movies. They can simply recast another actor. At this point, I doubt the fans would mind. I don’t find the Multiverse problematic, just over ambitious. The multiverse does speak to our current existential crisis of two or more competing realities and in which only one version can be right. Which will win, I wonder? I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on.
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Post by Grandmaster on Dec 20, 2023 20:49:12 GMT 1
They can simply recast another actor. At this point, I doubt the fans would mind. I don’t find the Multiverse problematic, just over ambitious. The multiverse does speak to our current existential crisis of two or more competing realities and in which only one version can be right. Which will win, I wonder? I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on. Maybe ... its time to reboot it. Guys, Im worried about the MCU.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 20, 2023 21:01:11 GMT 1
I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on. Maybe ... its time to reboot it. Guys, Im worried about the MCU. I'm halfway there on a reboot. You don't know it yet, but you (as in the collective you), should be too. Spoilers: The Marvel brand is under an all out assault. Insomniac leaks reveal an X-Men game and future Marvel roadmap www.polygon.com/24007710/insomniac-games-x-men-marvel-leak-roadmap
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Post by AQUA KEN! on Dec 20, 2023 21:13:23 GMT 1
Guys...I'm worried about the MCU. I don't think it will survive Grand Theft Auto 6...
I think it needs a reboot...
Preferably with Rockstar Games...
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Post by Merv on Dec 20, 2023 22:00:13 GMT 1
Regarding a reboot...without a delay or a significant gap in production, I don't know if I see the point.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 20, 2023 23:16:47 GMT 1
Regarding a reboot...without a delay or a significant gap in production, I don't know if I see the point. The break is the point of a reboot. To reboot, you'd have to take a giant step back and reconsider what you are doing with your overarching story, individual characters, and where the saga is going in the long term. A reboot doesn't have to come in the form of totally recasting. In the case of the MCU, a reboot probably looks like dropping the current story threads and moving the focus to and all new, all different corner of the universe. Two years might be enough.
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Post by Indiana Jones on Dec 21, 2023 2:13:57 GMT 1
Make it Denzel and it’s a deal. Denzel could play an older variant of Kang! Make him Beyonder, the alleged main Kang variant villain of Secret Wars. Or have the High Evolutionary escape his imprisonment (apparently he survived GOTG 3) and I dunno... evolve...into the Beyonder.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 21, 2023 15:46:53 GMT 1
Anybody think this Jonathan Majors Kang firing spells Doom for the MCU?
Yeahhhhhh. You get it ;-)
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 21, 2023 17:26:07 GMT 1
Doom is no man's second choice.
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 21, 2023 18:29:12 GMT 1
I was thinking about this a bit more
Obviously it was t the moment but I think they could easily get away with maintaining that Loki and the TVA have all Kangs in check and this story is over. And then seque to perhaps doom and keep as much of the intended multiverse secret wars plot finale as they can intact.
Orrrrrrr, if you do recast I think you have to go older. The Denzel idea works. A splash casting that brings mountains of respect, and a plot point that this is the most ancient and successful version, making the previous defeated variants the less experienced stepping stones to the true threat.
I’m not sure there’s another way out
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Post by taylorfirst1 on Dec 21, 2023 18:38:04 GMT 1
There's only one man who can successfully take over the role of Kang. {Spoiler}Bill Cosby
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Post by ArArArchStanton on Dec 21, 2023 18:55:06 GMT 1
FACTS!!!!
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 21, 2023 19:29:08 GMT 1
He can use his quaalude tunneling drive to travel through crime.
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Post by Merv on Dec 21, 2023 22:25:07 GMT 1
Introducing The Other One Who Remains...
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Post by LokisMom on Dec 22, 2023 5:41:46 GMT 1
They can simply recast another actor. At this point, I doubt the fans would mind. I don’t find the Multiverse problematic, just over ambitious. The multiverse does speak to our current existential crisis of two or more competing realities and in which only one version can be right. Which will win, I wonder? I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on. So what story hasn’t been told yet? I do wish they could please somebody.
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Post by LokisMom on Dec 22, 2023 5:48:37 GMT 1
I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on. Maybe ... its time to reboot it. Guys, Im worried about the MCU. The whole damn enterprise is not worth the emotions we spend on it. Maybe we such stop watch so much of the same, limited genre, but what else is there?
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 22, 2023 8:29:16 GMT 1
I would prefer they didn't recast. Stories set in a multiverse are fine for me, but the fan response to the concept has been like nails on a chalkboard. Fans who hate it are so vocal and strident about getting rid of it that they would gladly tank the entire genre to do it. Fans who love it get so lost in mazes of fan fiction where anything is possible that story and drama become almost unnecessary, if not altogether obsolete. The multiverse isn't the central concept of this saga; it is a symptom of the storytelling sickness that is time travel. Time travel creates new universes. We've already thoroughly explored time travel in the MCU. In the interest of removing that bad taste from everyone's mouths, perhaps we should move on. So what story hasn’t been told yet? I do wish they could please somebody. Many more stories exist, but that is not the issue here. The question is which story is the most compelling. In my estimation, it is the Kree Skrull War story arc. We clearly need something less confusing and more grounded than a multiversal war. Like it or not, war is something people can understand and will respond strongly to.
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Post by LokisMom on Dec 22, 2023 13:00:48 GMT 1
So what story hasn’t been told yet? I do wish they could please somebody. Many more stories exist, but that is not the issue here. The question is which story is the most compelling. In my estimation, it is the Kree Skrull War story arc. We clearly need something less confusing and more grounded than a multiversal war. Like it or not, war is something people can understand and will respond strongly to. Okay. We can’t recast, nor have the Multiverse, and Loki is never coming back. You are well named, Lord Death Man. Sadly, the Skrulls made a bad impression on me, so I’m pulling the Kree. Maybe Marvel can recycle their stories lines from the Agents of Shield and come up something.
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Post by Lord Death Man on Dec 22, 2023 18:56:27 GMT 1
Many more stories exist, but that is not the issue here. The question is which story is the most compelling. In my estimation, it is the Kree Skrull War story arc. We clearly need something less confusing and more grounded than a multiversal war. Like it or not, war is something people can understand and will respond strongly to. Okay. We can’t recast, nor have the Multiverse, and Loki is never coming back. You are well named, Lord Death Man. Sadly, the Skrulls made a bad impression on me, so I’m pulling the Kree. Maybe Marvel can recycle their stories lines from the Agents of Shield and come up something. Death comes to everyone, but take heart; all is not lost. I'm advocating for Marvel Studios to refocus its creative energies on new storytelling avenues. It will be difficult for them to recover from their recent missteps, but not impossible.
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